Who uses MS Live Search?

". . . it's mostly people that are searching for files on their own hard drive who accidentally click the 'search the net' button." If that theory is correct almost all Live Search sessions would come from Windows systems running IE. Sure enough, they found that an overwhelming 99.82% of all Live Search sessions are Windows machines running IE.

A 90% market share is good for something. It kept the Live Search market at 2.4% last month. IE's market share is 75%. If Firefox, 18% market share, users were just as likely to use Live Search as any other search engine, you'd expect to see 18% of Live Searches on that browser.

Search is THE problem as storage capacities grow. Microsoft's weak showing means they aren't going to beat Google at the current game. MS needs to put it's substantial muscle finding the Next Big Thing in search. It also suggests that taking over Yahoo won't help either; they haven't had any better luck against Google, either!

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Lamerz ... Microsoft owns your machine through OS.

live search is a Microsoft service. Searching in live ... you might as well eat, sh*t, f*ck Microsoft style as THEY OWN YOU

I'd rather give google it's share then put all eggs in the same basket

Thank you for the eloquently constructed piece of informative insight. You, sir, have made the internet a better place and I commend your efforts.

:rolleyes:

I believe live search has gotten nearly up to par with google. it seems to have a good ranking system, it is crawling quite often, sometimes faster than google and has actually made good improvements to browsing and performance.

The problem for live search right now is not that their results are sub par or their performance is bad. In both cases I believe that it could be argued that either of the 2 sites are superior on these fronts. The problem right now is that they do not return the same exact results as google. people are accustomed to searching for certain keywords on google to "re-find" content by following the same procedure as they originally used to find the content.

I bet you the most searched for term is "google.com". Mostly from users who don't know the difference between the search box and the address bar.

I've used Live Search as my default for about two years now. It had a couple of dicky periods during that but I'm happy with it myself. I often try Google when I'm not happy with Live's results but it rarely gives me anything relevant that Live doesn't give me.

The two main observations I have between the two are

  • Google gives a better quality first hit more often
  • Live Search gives fewer hits but they tend to be better overall

Regarding the article though, most OEMs set the default search engine to Google.

I seriously doubt that the majority of Live Search usage is via people typing into the address bar. It seems every time I talk someone through on the phone to go to a web address, they just automatically type into the Google toolbar and then I have to explain what the address bar is and that you can type URLs into it.

I have tried Live search on many occasions but the results simply aren't as good as Google. That's quite worrying as Google constantly brings back results for price comparison websites, rather than information about the products I am looking for. Google is FAR from perfect but it's definitely better than Live search for me.

I have yet to find a search engine that works perfectly. (Doubt I ever will) However, I've become used to how Google works, so I use it for everything.

I agree, although I still use Google (out of habit really), LS can provide equally relevant results. It's just that Google just seems to command more attention :P

So their silly Live Search Club thing isn't working then? Giving away prizes for playing games that do a search for each answer you put in...that was so pathetically desperate I'm still laughing about it.

There is flawed logic here.

"Sure enough, they found that an overwhelming 99.82% of all Live Search sessions are Windows machines running IE."

The error is that Live Search is the default search for IE browsers. In IE7 and above, Live Search is the default toolbar search engine, and in all IE browsers, if the user opts to set MSN as their home page, they're also using Live Search there. Therefore, people who use Live Search tend to use IE as a browser.

Furthermore, I've noticed that people who use Firefox are more tech savvy and know how to change default search engines. I bet a similar test would show that a majority of Firefox users use Google. After all, it is the default...

There should be a way to get conclusive data. If you search the Web from the Desktop search bar, the phrase "FORM=IE7RE" gets added to the search query URL.

(Civisi said @ #6)
There is flawed logic here.

"Sure enough, they found that an overwhelming 99.82% of all Live Search sessions are Windows machines running IE."

The error is that Live Search is the default search for IE browsers. In IE7 and above, Live Search is the default toolbar search engine, and in all IE browsers, if the user opts to set MSN as their home page, they're also using Live Search there. Therefore, people who use Live Search tend to use IE as a browser.

Furthermore, I've noticed that people who use Firefox are more tech savvy and know how to change default search engines. I bet a similar test would show that a majority of Firefox users use Google. After all, it is the default...

There should be a way to get conclusive data. If you search the Web from the Desktop search bar, the phrase "FORM=IE7RE" gets added to the search query URL.

Just proves that 99.82% of IE users are too stupid and don't know how to change search engines, or use a proper web browser

(z0phi3l said @ #6.2)

Just proves that 99.82% of IE users are too stupid and don't know how to change search engines, or use a proper web browser

Did you go and ask each of the 99.82 % to back your statement?? I don't think so. So please keep your fantasy statement to yourself. This is 2008, and people aren't that computer illiterate as they were before. Browers give simple options to change the search engine, and I know a lot of people who just change it to google ( on both IE and Firefox ) just for the sake of Google's popularity.
Give up the damn myth.

people who use Firefox are more tech savvy

Would you swear on that? It's not about being tech-savvy, it's down to personal choice. I use IE7, but with Google because it gives me better results.

The only thing I can take away from that study, is that yes, the majority of users will generally opt for the default search engine, because as far as they are concerned, it gives them the results they want. Firefox ships with Google as it's default search engine, yet you don't see a similar study do you?

Just proves that 99.82% of IE users are too stupid and don't know how to change search engines, or use a proper web browser

So would you say that I am stupid because I use IE7? Or that sometimes it's ok to use Live Search?

And would you say that IE is not a proper web browser (that statement in itself is retarded)?

Just because people don't share YOUR CHOICE in browser, or YOUR CHOICE in search engine, does not make them stupid. It makes you sound stupid for saying it.

(Antaris said @ #6.4)
So would you say that I am stupid because I use IE7?

That depends on your reason for using it. If you use it for your preference, that's fine. If you use it because you think it's a secure browser, you've a bit to learn. (Translated to how most people would say it, you'd be stupid.)

And would you say that IE is not a proper web browser (that statement in itself is retarded)?

I don't think it's a proper web browser. It's not standards compliant and it leaves some nice security holes. I'd also mention that it isn't available on Mac OS X or Linux - we non-Windows users really love it when webpages are coded specifically for IE and won't work in anything else. Really.

Just because people don't share YOUR CHOICE in browser, or YOUR CHOICE in search engine, does not make them stupid. It makes you sound stupid for saying it.

You're right, it doesn't make them stupid. But hearing you trump up IE as if there's nothing wrong with it or with what its mass usage has done to the web makes me think that perhaps you aren't aware of the problems involved.

I've checked out Live Search and ignored the fact that it may not give as many results, but it still comes short as for accuracy in the tests I did. I'd also welcome competition, but this incarnation wasn't a "Google killer" for me.

I made a conscious effort to use only Live search for a while and I was not happy with the results, so I wandered back to Google. That was a while ago, but I just don't care enough to try again. MS does not need to be in every business to succeed, get back to the OS and application business and leave the search engines and MP3 players to partners.

When I first install IE I always ditch the Live Search and replace them with Google and Wikipedia.

You always end up getting something completely unrelated when you use search engines other than google.

Like a lot of people, I use Google as a habit and don't really bother using anything else. Time for a test...

Test 1 - single word search for Neowin:
Google says - about 2,990,000
Live says - 571,000
Yahoo says - about 3,880,000

Test 2 - phrase search for Neowin Events
Google says - about 136,000
Live says - 147,000
Yahoo says - about 2,200,000

Test 3 - phrase search for "Neowin Events"
Google says - about 91
Live says - 8
Yahoo says - about 34

Quite a difference, but as we all know quantity doesn't always mean quality.
The first page of each search seems to contain the same links but in a different order.

Google has the edge for me, but I welcome competition and innovation as it should alspo bring better search tools.

I use Live search, in my IE, Firefox..and also i added it in my favorites bar, if i wanted to search for something...i am not sure why i like it..i use google & yahoo sometimes.. :-)