Why does Tweetro+ cost $9.99? We get answers

Earlier this month, developer Lazyworm Applications released Tweetro+, their revamped version of the popular third party Twitter app made especially for Windows 8. The app was re-released as a paid version after the previous free version reached the 100,000 token maximum that Twitter currently requires of third party apps that use its services. That app was removed from the Windows Store and people who downloaded it were asked to pay for the full version when it was launched.

Many Windows 8 owners have wondered why Tweetro+ currently costs $9.99, with some people feeling that this is too much money to spend on such an app. In fact, Tweetro+ is scheduled to actually go up in price to $12.99 sometime next week.

We reached out to Lazyworm Applications co-founder Atta Elayyan to find out more about their price for Tweetro+. He pointed us to an FAQ page where the company states that Tweetro+ actually can support multiple accounts. Ultimately, only between 20,000 to 50,000 "tokens" will likely be given out. Microsoft also takes 30 percent of revenues from the app. The FAQ page adds:

Sure, if we sell every copy it could equate to a few hundred grand but software isn't cheap! In reality, we're barely covering our costs considering the project has taken us nearly 8 months to date and we plan to continue supporting it in the future.

Elayyan also expanded on his thoughts on the matter in his email to Neowin:

On a final note, it's been interesting to find that people are comfortable with a $10 price tag for desktop applications but a 'Modern' store app (which works on desktop and tablets, has snapped mode, portrait mode and every other mode.. essentially acting as 3-4 apps in one) is still being lumped into the '0.99c' mobile app category.  I think there needs to be a change in thinking here because 'Modern' store applications are far more complex and unless developers are able to charge substantially more for them you'll find that the quality of the software isn't going to be anywhere near where it could be. 

For example, Tweetro took over 3 months of design before we could even touch a line of code and the project has taken nearly 8 months to get to where we are today.. and it's 'just a Twitter app'. We have a lot of experience delivering Windows Phone applications and the work involved (especially from a design perspective) is substantially less than that required to do the app's equivalent on Windows 8.

For further proof of his claim that Tweetro+ is not a normal Windows 8 app, Elayyan also sent over an image showing how the Lazyworms Apps mapped out the app's design. The bottom line? Tweetro+ was created by a team that wanted to make an app that offered users a lot of features as well as a solid design. That also means users might have to pay just a little more in order to keep these teams working on quality apps for the new OS.

Images via Lazyworms Apps

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$4.99 is my magic pricepoint. Until they charge a more reasonable fee and remember they are just a twitter app they will lose my sale. I have too many free alternatives to shill out for something a bit "prettier", at least at $9.99.

$10 is way too much for a twitter app. Sorry it took you 8 months to develop a twitter app, but that's simply too much money to pay for a website that is free in a web browser. I've now switched to MetroTwit desktop application and will keep updating the other free Twitter apps until they are as good as Tweetro is right now.

I feel like LazyWorm has also had a long history of shenanigans. Remember they pulled the MetroTube app from WP7 claiming it was Google's fault, then they pulled Tweetro claiming it was Twitters fault. I don't trust this company anymore and I would be very leery about buying anything from them because if they decide to pull Tweetro+ from the store you will never be able to download it again on a new device. The fact that they also shut off access to my free Tweetro client, which was working fine, was the last straw for me. I helped them bug test their Tweetro app for months, gave them positive reviews and told others to use it (why should I suddenly be forced to pay $10?). I do not trust them at all, LazyWorm are a very bad company. Good programmers, but untrustworthy businessmen.

Avatar Roku said,
$10 is way too much for a twitter app. Sorry it took you 8 months to develop a twitter app, but that's simply too much money to pay for a website that is free in a web browser. I've now switched to MetroTwit desktop application and will keep updating the other free Twitter apps until they are as good as Tweetro is right now.

I feel like LazyWorm has also had a long history of shenanigans. Remember they pulled the MetroTube app from WP7 claiming it was Google's fault, then they pulled Tweetro claiming it was Twitters fault. I don't trust this company anymore and I would be very leery about buying anything from them because if they decide to pull Tweetro+ from the store you will never be able to download it again on a new device. The fact that they also shut off access to my free Tweetro client, which was working fine, was the last straw for me. I helped them bug test their Tweetro app for months, gave them positive reviews and told others to use it (why should I suddenly be forced to pay $10?). I do not trust them at all, LazyWorm are a very bad company. Good programmers, but untrustworthy businessmen.

Sorry to hear you feel this way, these 'shenanigans' have been issues completely outside of our control. It's the price we've paid for trying to deliver applications for services we have no control over and is something we certainly won't be doing ever again.

Under Twitter's restrictions, the ONLY way we are able to continue supporting the Tweetro project is to go down the paid route. We've had to revoke the free app tokens to re-launch the paid app and this is why the free version no longer works.

You could have directly emailed us with your concerens and we'd gladly give you free access to the app for all your help and support you've shown us with testing.

Regardless, we're still unsure how any of the circumstances you've outlined lead to the conclusion that we are untrustworthy or a bad company?

This is not a app i would pay for
how good it maybe it dont matter
it what it does for the money that count
and i could do the same
on my phone/web browser for free.

athlonforce said,
This is not a app i would pay for
how good it maybe it dont matter
it what it does for the money that count
and i could do the same
on my phone/web browser for free.

Good for you, I would definitely pay for it if I was running Windows, I would take a well thought out application over a web app any day.

If you've spent that long developing an app and expect it to be a single source of income then you should go to brain school.

Too many people these days writing apps and expecting to be able to live off of their income. They should start as a bit of extra pocket money coded in your spare time. If you make what you do at work only then maybe should you think in making it your only source of income.

But that's just my opinion.

It if has the quality of design and functionality that MetroTube does on windows phone *and* you use twitter even remotely heavily then it will most definitely be worth the $10. I anxiously await a metrotube for the Modern environment... and I'd easily pay $20+ for it... I'm sure it will be the pants off using YouTube's own interface.

cheap gits......
I come from the days that software was still up in the $100.000,= and the hardware was separate and also around that number.
Why shouldn't hard work pay off?

With discussions like these we end up with "Why isn't there app X for W8?"
Answer: "Because you cheapos don't want to pay for it".

<sigh....>

I work with quite of few programmers for custom software. I've had individuals run circles around "teams" and deliver far more complicated applications in 3-4 weeks vs 3-4 months. Then you have the "business" managers to deal with often who add substantial costs to both their companies and mine. Sorry, but get a better system or live with the long term results of your choices when charging customers high prices adn then making weak excuses as to why afterwards...they won't forget when a better app @ .99 comes a long and does it all better for less.

Hahaiah said,
I work with quite of few programmers for custom software. I've had individuals run circles around "teams" and deliver far more complicated applications in 3-4 weeks vs 3-4 months. Then you have the "business" managers to deal with often who add substantial costs to both their companies and mine. Sorry, but get a better system or live with the long term results of your choices when charging customers high prices adn then making weak excuses as to why afterwards...they won't forget when a better app @ .99 comes a long and does it all better for less.

Custom Programmer here, member of a team that runs around building complicated applications.

You're full of it.

as a software developer (not mobile apps though) i find the price tag too much just for a twitter app..... sure you need to make money, BUT why not sell it for $0.99 and put adds in it? if people dont use it take it away, and reclaim the token *though i dono how that wokrs) ect... if they want to get rid of the adds make them pay the full price.... this too me seams alot of cash,, i dont use twitter so dont really care in any event.. just my 2 cents.. the main reason i dont get into mobile apps is that the business model is to difficult esp when you have a mortgage and kids ect.... someone;s gota pay the bills and a few hundred sales at 99cents , of which you only get 66 to me seams pretty bad...

T1OOO said,
as a software developer (not mobile apps though) i find the price tag too much just for a twitter app..... sure you need to make money, BUT why not sell it for $0.99 and put adds in it? if people dont use it take it away, and reclaim the token *though i dono how that wokrs) ect... if they want to get rid of the adds make them pay the full price.... this too me seams alot of cash,, i dont use twitter so dont really care in any event.. just my 2 cents.. the main reason i dont get into mobile apps is that the business model is to difficult esp when you have a mortgage and kids ect.... someone;s gota pay the bills and a few hundred sales at 99cents , of which you only get 66 to me seams pretty bad...
If it has the quality of MetroTube, $10 is more than worth it if you care about Twitter. However, someone will copy their design etc. and dump it out for $1 at some point.

Funny. I wonder if just another Twitter app among I don't know how many is really worth double of what stuff like Bard's Tale or NFS for Android cost. It's just... such games must be a LOT more work.

The $10 price tag is entirely too high for a Twitter app. But, for me, what stands out more than the app's price is the fact that it took them 8 months to throw together Twitter app. That is just pathetic.

spacer said,
The $10 price tag is entirely too high for a Twitter app. But, for me, what stands out more than the app's price is the fact that it took them 8 months to throw together Twitter app. That is just pathetic.

I agree, but at the same time, I've spent 15$ on tweetbot, and tweetie when that first came out >_<

spacer said,
The $10 price tag is entirely too high for a Twitter app. But, for me, what stands out more than the app's price is the fact that it took them 8 months to throw together Twitter app. That is just pathetic.

Looks like they were aiming for quality instead of just popping out an app that is a tweaked Visual Studio app Template or sample. There are so many slapped tighter apps out there and this one is not one of them

spacer said,
The $10 price tag is entirely too high for a Twitter app. But, for me, what stands out more than the app's price is the fact that it took them 8 months to throw together Twitter app. That is just pathetic.

I agree. I think they have to take into consideration what the app does too. If it were something significant, then sure. But a Twitter App? No. I would never pay that for a Twitter App.

Hey I'm all for quality apps especially on the Windows Store which is really lacking at this point, but $10 and $12 seems a whole lot to pay for " just a Twitter app". I get they put a lot of effort into it and I respect that. But Twitter is one who is actually screwing everyone here putting a cap on Lazyworms' market and forcing devs to put a high price on their apps just to have a decent ROI.

Vlad Dudau said,
Hey I'm all for quality apps especially on the Windows Store which is really lacking at this point, but $10 and $12 seems a whole lot to pay for " just a Twitter app". I get they put a lot of effort into it and I respect that. But Twitter is one who is actually screwing everyone here putting a cap on Lazyworms' market and forcing devs to put a high price on their apps just to have a decent ROI.

Agreed.

I do think the 0.99c app culture needs to go but $10 does seem kinda high. Anyhow its a quality app and if people want to stump up then let them!

ingramator said,
I do think the 0.99c app culture needs to go but $10 does seem kinda high. Anyhow its a quality app and if people want to stump up then let them!

What do you mean when you say "I do think the 0.99c app culture needs to go?"

Are you saying you don't like having to pay 0.99c for some apps?

Calum said,

What do you mean when you say "I do think the 0.99c app culture needs to go?"

Are you saying you don't like having to pay 0.99c for some apps?


I think he is saying that people are expecting apps to be 0.99c because of the mobile app markets when they do actually cost a lot of money to build them, so when they are more expensive everyone moans about the price

Teebor said,

I think he is saying that people are expecting apps to be 0.99c because of the mobile app markets when they do actually cost a lot of money to build them, so when they are more expensive everyone moans about the price

I see. Thanks for explaining to me