Will Windows Blue come with a File Manager app?

There's already been a flood of new information that's been discovered from the leaked 9364 build of Windows Blue today. One interesting tidbit has been found that may suggest Microsoft could finally be offering a feature for Windows 8 and Windows Blue users that's been much requested by users of the OS.

In a screenshot uploaded by the Windows4Live Twitter account from the leaked build, it seems to show a listing for a File Manager app for Windows Blue via the PowerShell window. This has apparently been confirmed by another Twitter user, AngelWZR who has posted what's listed as a "FileManage" folder with a SkyDrive icon

 

This is strong evidence that Microsoft might finally be offering a Modern app that would serve as a File Manager, similar to the one that's highly familiar to Windows desktop users. There are already a few third party Modern file manager apps for Windows 8 that have been published in the Windows Store.

Microsoft apparently has plans to add quite a few new Modern apps for Windows Blue, including an alarm, calculator and a sound recorder, along with a still mysterious Movie Moments app.

Source: Windows4Live | Image via Windows4Live

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If you browse some of the XAML files in the app (%WINDIR%\FileManager) it contains mostly references to SkyDrive, and the Immersive control panel (PC Settings) as well as the SkyDrive logo, which suggests to me it's more likely to be the outcome of clicking this button (http://i.imgur.com/9nkTX0i.png) which currently does nothing. I'd guess it's for selecting the local folder for your SkyDrive synced storage, and which remote folders to sync.

norton commander would be a good fit for windows blue. it's blue. that should make the fanboys wet their pants. lmfao.

ensiform said,
Is Microsoft really still leaving the file extensions off in explorer by default? ...

Yeah, you're correct.
The optimal setting would be on in desktop, off in file manager app.

So basically the current release of Windows 8 on the market is a beta and we will get the actual product when Blue is released?

Mr. Dee said,
So basically the current release of Windows 8 on the market is a beta and we will get the actual product when Blue is released?

This build is more an alpha then what you would call a beta, many elements aren't working correctly and dodgy element redraws with the XAML.

Seems to me that they're trying to get Windows ready to be used without the desktop. I think that having the desktop interface really complicates the Windows RT devices, especially since it's pretty much useless except for Explorer, Office, and the Control Panel.

A good Modern UI file manager, an expanded set of settings, and a Modern UI version of Office would let them get rid of the Desktop completely on RT devices and get rid of a lot of consumer confusion.

Stetson said,
Seems to me that they're trying to get Windows ready to be used without the desktop. I think that having the desktop interface really complicates the Windows RT devices, especially since it's pretty much useless except for Explorer, Office, and the Control Panel.

A good Modern UI file manager, an expanded set of settings, and a Modern UI version of Office would let them get rid of the Desktop completely on RT devices and get rid of a lot of consumer confusion.


And it kind of shows why a tablet and a desktop need their own OS'...

Stetson said,
Seems to me that they're trying to get Windows ready to be used without the desktop. I think that having the desktop interface really complicates the Windows RT devices, especially since it's pretty much useless except for Explorer, Office, and the Control Panel.

A good Modern UI file manager, an expanded set of settings, and a Modern UI version of Office would let them get rid of the Desktop completely on RT devices and get rid of a lot of consumer confusion.

Yeah, the reason the desktop is still there on RT is for the office apps and file management. Once those are on the metro side along with the already added number of control panel options then RT doesn't need the desktop.

GP007 said,

Yeah, the reason the desktop is still there on RT is for the office apps and file management. Once those are on the metro side along with the already added number of control panel options then RT doesn't need the desktop.

I'm happy for them to create Modern versions of Office, Explorer, etc. but I hope they still keep the desktop around for tinkering. There are some things like Disk Management that will probably never have Modern replacements and it does no harm to keep the desktop for those apps.

jakem1 said,

I'm happy for them to create Modern versions of Office, Explorer, etc. but I hope they still keep the desktop around for tinkering. There are some things like Disk Management that will probably never have Modern replacements and it does no harm to keep the desktop for those apps.

Yeah but I'm looking at RT specifically not regular Windows. Are you really looking to tinker that way on a RT tablet? I think once we start talking 7" tablets that they can drop the desktop once they have the metro replacements ready. It won't go anywhere on x86-64 desktops.

MorganX said,
That would be great for RT. I can see a Modern Word and PowerPoint. Excel is a little harder to picture.

I was thinking about this the other day as I had to start working on a new spreadsheet in Excel on my WP. One idea I had was that it would be cool if you could switch worksheets by swiping down from the top similar to the way you switch tabs in IE.

The hardest thing to recreate with any of the Office apps will be all the menu options on the ribbon. The app bar that you get when you swipe up in Modern apps isn't really designed to support many toolbar buttons but perhaps they have something a little more ribbon-like appear instead.

jakem1 said,

I was thinking about this the other day as I had to start working on a new spreadsheet in Excel on my WP. One idea I had was that it would be cool if you could switch worksheets by swiping down from the top similar to the way you switch tabs in IE.

The hardest thing to recreate with any of the Office apps will be all the menu options on the ribbon. The app bar that you get when you swipe up in Modern apps isn't really designed to support many toolbar buttons but perhaps they have something a little more ribbon-like appear instead.

Can't the ribbon appear from the top like the tabs in IE? Is there something that stops that from happening?

Actually they could use a redial dial for Excel (ala - OneNote RT) but have a ribbon slide out from left to right when a menu item is selected. That way you have more items displaying in 1 line and can have a drop down list as well.. Plus it would take up less room at the top while also allowing for small 7" screens.

M_Lyons10 said,

And it kind of shows why a tablet and a desktop need their own OS'...

LCARS looks relatively the same on tablet input screens, Table input systems as well as wall mounted systems.
I think you're just not getting the overarching vision.

Doesn't Windows 8 already have a Metro file manager when you need to browser for a file within a Metro app...?

arkon said,
Doesn't Windows 8 already have a Metro file manager when you need to browser for a file within a Metro app...?

That's not a manager it's just a file picker, like the metro version of the desktop open, save as windows you get.

GP007 said,

That's not a manager it's just a file picker, like the metro version of the desktop open, save as windows you get.

Hopefully it will let us pin individual folders as tiles on the start screen

It would be a nice freebie eliminating the need for a third party app. But having tried third party apps, without mass cut/copy/paste, drag & drop, navigation pane, right-click context menu (in-place), it's really just for the most basic, basic, file management tasks and really not worth the trouble IMO. Better to keep fixing the music app and let people needing file management keep using File Manager in the desktkop environment..

This is needed, specially for Windows RT users and on future 7" RT tablets. It's too much of a pain to try and do file management from the desktop with touch and on a smaller screen even more.

I also hope they do something with task manager though the new one is easier to use with touch.

GP007 said,
This is needed, specially for Windows RT users and on future 7" RT tablets. It's too much of a pain to try and do file management from the desktop with touch and on a smaller screen even more.

I also hope they do something with task manager though the new one is easier to use with touch.


Agreed. But I hope the desktop gets some focus in the Blue update as well...

M_Lyons10 said,

Agreed. But I hope the desktop gets some focus in the Blue update as well...

I really hope so! I'm ready to let the desktop environment go but I stil use too many legacy apps. Even Microsoft Office runs in the desktop. But at least Office 2013 looks the part... The desktop seems so isolated from the rest of the experience. Especially with its Aero-lite taskbar. How hard can it be to add another desktop-theme that makes it look more in line with Office 2013? It shouldnt be the real fix but just something for us to have while we wait for the big stuff.

Ronnet said,

I really hope so! I'm ready to let the desktop environment go but I stil use too many legacy apps. Even Microsoft Office runs in the desktop. But at least Office 2013 looks the part... The desktop seems so isolated from the rest of the experience. Especially with its Aero-lite taskbar. How hard can it be to add another desktop-theme that makes it look more in line with Office 2013? It shouldnt be the real fix but just something for us to have while we wait for the big stuff.


+1

That would be a nice addition. I like the direction that Microsoft is taking with integrated services. Like having one place for music that you can play and alter using a multitude of music apps. Or having Skydrive be integrated into both firstparty and thirdparty apps.

But its stil nice to be able to get into the folders when you need to do some rearranging. Which is why I also like having a seperate Skydrive app. I guess having a similar app for local files would be a nice addition.