Will Windows Phone 8 finally get a notification center in next update?

When Microsoft launched Windows Phone 8 in November 2012, it did not come with a notification center. It's a feature that many owners of WP8 smartphones have been requesting for a long time and it's one that Microsoft has been promising it will add ... eventually.

Now there's word that some kind of notification screen is not only in the works, but it may actually be released as part of the upcoming GDR3 update for Windows Phone 8. The rumor comes from Nokiapoweruser.com, which claims, via their unnamed tipster, that Nokia's India team is already testing GDR3.

A second post from the same site claims that Nokia is also working a software update called (and we are not making this up) "Lumia Bittersweet Shimmer", which it says will have something called "Appetite". The story says it's not about food but rather an "apps showcase for Lumia and Asha devices with news about new releases, upcoming apps and event (sic)."

There have been previous reports, complete with blurry video, that Microsoft was going to wait until Windows Phone 8.1 to add a notification screen, and that won't likely happen until early 2014. It's possible that past rumors were correct and Microsoft may have chosen to add such a feature in GDR3. The update is currently expected to be released this fall, alongside new devices from Nokia and HTC.

Source: Nokiapoweruser | Image via Samsung

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former 920 user, current Htc One owner. I like how android handles notifications. I hope WP implements something similar. If I went back to WP that would have to be there.

I thought Windows Phone was 'glance & go'?

Is Windows Phone being developed by the community? They got rid of the home screen gutter, they gave you the ability to modify the tile settings and shapes and now people want a notification centre on a phone where the home screen is meant to be the notification centre. What will the community want next? It sounds like a recipe for disaster.

derekaw said,
I thought Windows Phone was 'glance & go'?

Is Windows Phone being developed by the community? They got rid of the home screen gutter, they gave you the ability to modify the tile settings and shapes and now people want a notification centre on a phone where the home screen is meant to be the notification centre. What will the community want next? It sounds like a recipe for disaster.

So what happens if you get a toast notification from an app that isn't pinned, but you don't get to your phone in time?

Notification Center would be good, but the lack of static IP config for WiFi is a dealbreaker for me.

Trollercoaster said,

Except it's not lacking at all.
2 screenshots I just took. Don't use Static IP myself but the functionality is there.
http://i.imgur.com/XLxn3n8.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/GEZZZec.jpg


When was that actually added? All of the Windows Phone 8 devices I've seen both in the shops
when I was looking to buy a smartphone at the end of May this year, and a bit more recently,
one that a friend of my Dad owns, don't seem to have static IP options in the WiFi settings.
Also, entries on various WP8 related message boards I was looking at three months ago,
discussed the lack of static IP options. It was a complete dealbreaker for me, so I went
with Android in the end ... a Samsung Galaxy Ace 2 to be precise.

It must be a very recently added feature, or it's only available on the more expensive WP8
models that I wouldn't ever consider since (like iPhones) they're massively overpriced.

If static IP is now an option in the WiFi settings on all current and recent WP8 devices, not
just the overpriced models, then WP8 might be my next smartphone choice next year.

DJGM said,

When was that actually added? All of the Windows Phone 8 devices I've seen both in the shops
when I was looking to buy a smartphone at the end of May this year, and a bit more recently,
one that a friend of my Dad owns, don't seem to have static IP options in the WiFi settings.
Also, entries on various WP8 related message boards I was looking at three months ago,
discussed the lack of static IP options. It was a complete dealbreaker for me, so I went
with Android in the end ... a Samsung Galaxy Ace 2 to be precise.

It must be a very recently added feature, or it's only available on the more expensive WP8
models that I wouldn't ever consider since (like iPhones) they're massively overpriced.

If static IP is now an option in the WiFi settings on all current and recent WP8 devices, not
just the overpriced models, then WP8 might be my next smartphone choice next year.

No idea when it was added or why it might be missing from other devices. I have a Huawei Ascend W1 which is one of the lowest end WP8 phones around. I've only had it a month but it's not like it's been updated to that "GDR2" update everyone talks about. The phone model itself isn't exactly new either, I believe it was released at the start of this year.

There's this Microsoft Community forum thread from January of this year where replies say:

"There is currently no way to set a static IP."
and
"At this time, there is no way to assign a static IP address to your Windows Phone WiFi."
http://answers.microsoft.com/e...1263-4e48-8405-634982591b03

Yet your screenshots suggest otherwise. So, what is the definitive answer? Is static IP for WiFi
fully supported on WP8? If it is, is it available on all the WP8 devices, or only a select few?

DJGM said,
There's this Microsoft Community forum thread from January of this year where replies say:

"There is currently no way to set a static IP."
and
"At this time, there is no way to assign a static IP address to your Windows Phone WiFi."
http://answers.microsoft.com/e...1263-4e48-8405-634982591b03

Yet your screenshots suggest otherwise. So, what is the definitive answer? Is static IP for WiFi
fully supported on WP8? If it is, is it available on all the WP8 devices, or only a select few?

No idea...but it's definitely there on my phone lol

It wouldn't surprise me if they back ported it from 8.1 to GDR3 but overall GDR3 should just bring newer hardware support and minor UI tweaks for the bigger screens. The majority of new features will still be in 8.1. As far as if WP needs a notification center or not, I don't mind it either way but not having it is something others can point to and use as a limiting factor for the platform. It's better for MS to have it and users not to really need it then not to have it and have the competition using the fact you don't to their advantage.

Windows Phone 8.1 in early 2014? People are just about starting to recieve GDR2 update. I think we can safely say most current devices won't be on GDR3 until February or March next year and 8.1 will be like 7.8 update was for WP7 users, bringing the next WP version's UI changes to 8 users but not the features.

Why do hou think that? Windows Phone updates are rollend-out in 2 months. Windows Phone 8.1 wil, be the WP7.5 for the 8.x branche. And after that, It's most likely that WP8 devies move on too WP9.

"Bittersweet Shimmer"... that sounds like a name Hasbro would use for a Littlest Pet Shop pet...

Anyway, I'm using Windows Phone for a while now (actualy, since launch) and I do not miss a notification center. It's just a gimmick IMO....

As an former WP user (now on Android full time) my opinion is that WP doesn't actually need one. Seriously, all info is already on Live tiles and what ain't is just a sweep away in "What's new" tab. In my opinion Microsoft was cornered with it from Android users who kept screaming for one but obviously they haven't used WP or if they have then for a short while. I, for one, didn't miss the notification center what so ever when I was using WP.

What microsoft needs to actually do is add native shortcuts for Wifi, Data etc. I'm well aware that there are dozens of third party apps for that but still, native is always better.

A native Data tile with info about data used etc would be awesome.

Also I'll rant about the picture a little (used in this article). I'd wish news sites would stop using Samsung pictures for WP, they are putting 0 effort into WP, why advertise them? Nokia is actually the only one doing anything for WP (Apps, phones for all price classes, support etc.). Just my 2 cents.

then they should call it notification history. What if the app is not pinned to the start screen and you receive a notification ? There's no way to check again later about that notification as things stand.

In-app? When you delete the notification in Android center it's the same as far as I know. There's no "history" I've found on my Android yet but to go into the app and see what the fuzz is about.

alwaysonacoffebreak said,
As an former WP user (now on Android full time) my opinion is that WP doesn't actually need one. Seriously, all info is already on Live tiles and what ain't is just a sweep away in "What's new" tab. In my opinion Microsoft was cornered with it from Android users who kept screaming for one but obviously they haven't used WP or if they have then for a short while. I, for one, didn't miss the notification center what so ever when I was using WP.

Nope. I always hear this argument and STRONGLY disagree.

The tiles don't show the same information or have the versatility of the notification center. Most app just show a number. Others will show a little bit of text. And they just lead you to the main page of the app. You're a full time android user now and you still think the live tiles are enough? An Android user should easily tell that the Android notification center is far superior to the current live tiles implementation. Leave the tiles as they are and add a notification center, they can co-exist perfectly fine.

The tiles can't link to pages within the app depending on notification, they don't have quick action buttons, you can't dismiss individual notifications, you can't see notifications for apps that aren't pinned to your home screen, it's annoying to have to scroll up and down to see if any app has a notification vs just looking in the corner, toasts disappear if you don't see them right away (like 5 second timeout and its gone). The live tiles are nowhere as good as a notification center.

I can sort of agree with this. I really like the live tiles, but some just show a number like you said and thats in full and wide tile mode. All tiles in mini mode just show numbers. If I wanted just numbers in full tile mode I would have stuck with Android or iPhone, because thats what the icons already do. It would be awesome if Microsoft could extend the live tiles to the in house phone and messaging tiles some how. When an app actually utilizes the full extent of the live tiles its usually pretty helpful.

As far at the Notification Center, its not really needed IF all your apps that have notifications are on the Start Screen. If there is an app not on the start screen there is no way of knowing later on. The key is figuring out how to taylor a notification center to the OS, because a full fledged one like Android is not always needed. It would be nice if they did a control hub, where you have "quick settings" as well as basic notfications

alwaysonacoffebreak said,
What microsoft needs to actually do is add native shortcuts for Wifi, Data etc. I'm well aware that there are dozens of third party apps for that but still, native is always better.

A native Data tile with info about data used etc would be awesome.
.


Data sense, which is include in GDR2, gives you all these information about data consumption, even broken down by each app. It is a disgrace that carriers will be able to withhold the release of this app though.

alwaysonacoffebreak said,
Yeah, for one carrier. Great support!

Not true. Works fine for me in Canada...where Verizon doesn't exist.

francescob said,
But... but I want to be woken up at 4 AM by some random application that uses the notification center to spam the users with ads!

Nothing is stopping them from putting ads in Toasts currently. Notification center doesn't allow any more crap than Toasts do, but is a lot more useful because you have more than 5 seconds to see it before they're gone forever.

francescob said,
But... but I want to be woken up at 4 AM by some random application that uses the notification center to spam the users with ads!

Why would a notification wake you up? I receive emails during the night but, having unchecked the option to receive a sound notification, nothing happens; the same would apply to a notification center.

alwaysonacoffebreak said,
Yeah, for one carrier. Great support!

Not true, with GDR2 it was opened up to many more carriers. I'm on Vodafone in the UK and I have it.

francescob said,
But... but I want to be woken up at 4 AM by some random application that uses the notification center to spam the users with ads!

At present, the notifications still play a sound and pop up, why would that get any worse with a notification centre?

alwaysonacoffebreak said,
As an former WP user (now on Android full time) my opinion is that WP doesn't actually need one. Seriously, all info is already on Live tiles and what ain't is just a sweep away in "What's new" tab. In my opinion Microsoft was cornered with it from Android users who kept screaming for one but obviously they haven't used WP or if they have then for a short while. I, for one, didn't miss the notification center what so ever when I was using WP.

I disagree with this. As a Lumia 920 user for about 6 months, transferring from my work iPhone to this, it's a great phone but not a great on call phone. As a Systems Admin, I miss the iPhone's ability to light up and show multiple messages that are unread. Even the GS4 can show off notifications. My Lumia? One message at a time. That's seriously a bad design choice. Since MS is dragging their heels on putting something in that is remotely similar to the iPhone or an Android, I am either going back to an iPhone or moving to a GS4.

well yes, but no. if something vibrates and you know there's a notification somewhere, you have to look around and maybe scroll and notice what might have changed, while potentially having several live tiles do their thing at the same time. it is not ideal.

on windows 8 i never really realize I have windows store app updates pending. its just a little number there...

You might have to wait a while. Now that Ballmer is gone, Billy will axe WP asap, and Nokia and its customers are going to be left hanging. Only way this doesn't happen is if Elop becomes CEO of MSFT, but that probably won't happen with Billy in charge.

recursive said,
You might have to wait a while. Now that Ballmer is gone, Billy will axe WP asap, and Nokia and its customers are going to be left hanging. Only way this doesn't happen is if Elop becomes CEO of MSFT, but that probably won't happen with Billy in charge.

Whatever it is you're smoking, put it down.

Why do you think the Micorosoft - Nokia buyout talks fizzled out? Why do you think Ballmer was fired before his time? Put two and two together and it doesn't take long to realize that Windows Phone / RT is a dead end street.

[quote=recursive said,]Why do you think the Micorosoft - Nokia buyout talks fizzled out? quote]

Nope IMO I think they are still in Talks, With Elop as CEO of Nokia, and the CEO for MS up for grabs, I think its the perfect time for MS to Jump in and take Nokia phone Division, Elop (already, as said ) he knows how to Run the Phone Division and so that would be a major + for MS and the WP section

recursive said,
You might have to wait a while. Now that Ballmer is gone, Billy will axe WP asap, and Nokia and its customers are going to be left hanging. Only way this doesn't happen is if Elop becomes CEO of MSFT, but that probably won't happen with Billy in charge.

So now that we know MS is even more behind Nokia than ever, care to revise your assertion?

EvilAstroboy said,

now, Recursive, please just except the fact that WP is going to get notifications,

As he points out, it is easy to jump 8% when you are selling a few thousand uints, but a lot harder when you are pushing millions of units every quarter already. We only have so many people on this planet.

Just out of curiosity, how does it feel to look at all the other platforms having basic features like notifications when you longingly have to wait and hope big brother MSFT will listen to a few user complaints and improve their product?