Windows 7 build 7057 leaks

With few weeks left for Windows 7 RC to be released, some Neowin users have found Windows 7 build 7057 in the wild. The build string reads - 7057.0.x86fre.winmain.090305-2000 which means that this was compiled on March 5.

The EULA reads this for now

Yes, this makes it clear that Microsoft is already cooking its Windows 7 RC builds (not final build though)

The most immediate change users would notice is the new welcome and shutdown screen

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Medking

"if i download this and install using a beta key, will it overwrite all of my files currently in my Windows 7 partition?

Or can I upgrade?"

No, it won't overwrite your files - knock-on-wood 3X ... as always, back them up on a DVD, second HDD, TAPE, etc., etc ... whatever turns you on.

Please re-question, do you already have Win7 installed? You can go either way, if you already installed an earlier version, and all you want to do is upgrade it, by all means choose the upgrade window. If you for some reason have a well messed-up install and it's giving you problem(s), then a format is the way to go and a new install of the latest version.

Today's my day, if it's gonna happen - then it will. ;-)

question:

if i download this and install using a beta key, will it overwrite all of my files currently in my Windows 7 partition?

Or can I upgrade?


"gonzo68 on 13 Mar 2009 - 20:14
...
7000 was ok but buggy
7022 good but still some bug
7048 better with little bug
7057 i think you got your answer now"

So if the 'blind' had looked around they would have been running the x64 versions from the beginning ... ;-)

"lflashl on 15 Mar 2009 - 09:11

found the lastest 7057 build, very bad for me, slow install, slow boot up, and that forever just to run a program of anything else."

I've got to agree 95% - only I've got no problem running anything (and it's a bunch).

This is the first new OS from M$ that I've been able to "UPGRADE" and not lose a single file ... :)

Let's just say that Vista should, or was, that should have been 'beta' and Win7 the RTC - cleaner, faster, less complaints from the peanut gallery.

I've been using an beta testing since Windows 1.01/DOS 1 ... and this is the first time I'm happy with the product even before customers get it.

Enjoy

Oh, they fixed the image viewer by the way The one you get when you preview images in directories. No more pause between selecting each image.

lflashl said,
found the lastest 7057 build, very bad for me, slow install, slow boot up, and that forever just to run a program of anything else.

Justed install build 7048, x64bit and i have to say it runs great! i think ill stay with this build till the RC1 comes out!

It's not buggy - did you upgrade? I find that many people who report bugs run hardware that is older(legacy) or use third party hardware that uses their own drivers. It has been stable for me since 7000 with some bugs that was expected since it was Beta and still is BETA.

Spen said,
Is there better then 7022?

Should I upgrade?


7000 was ok but buggy
7022 good but still some bug
7048 better with little bug
7057 i think you got your answer now

back_stabba said,
Yeah, downloading it right now. Do you need a new serial or you can use your old serial ?
WTF... Please SOMEONE !!! Post a search string for google...

njeske said,
yep... x64 is available. downloading it now. from what i've read, build 7000 beta keys work for this build as well.

got it up and running. my beta key worked fine. so far so good. seems a bit more stable than 7048.

Very nice, finally x64 :)
However, the Rate Pi Bay seems to be overcrowded by Neowinians now:
"Search engine overloaded, please try again in a few seconds"

timster said,
check a site that starts with M and ends in ininova ... it's the 3.2gb one
FINALLY !!! I thought only I was able to see my posts... Thanks a lot, my friend !!!
Cheers.

and everybody masturbated on the new welcome screen! damn you're easy to impress... 1 point goes to M$ in this round... pathetic losers! This is exactly what this new windows crap needs... a new welcome screen not a new kernel, improved stability, better performance etc! And if when it comes to visual effects... add about 10 mouse cursors theme, 10 visual themes and for **ck's sake.. let us install our own styles and themes without having to patch the theme files(uxtheme.dll, themeui.dll, shsvcs.dll)... or at least hire some damn professional designers to make a bunch of themes and offer them out of the box... but nooo... M$ is wayyyy too cheap to make such an investment... All we got for vista were some extra(****ty btw) dreamscenes and 2 sound schemes... wooow now that was a real gift... thaaaaank youuuuu M$! Also we are stuck with one type of minimizing and maximizing effect.. now that really makes Aero a charming environment! Even linux has more effects plus many cool things when it comes to visuals like jelly windows and stuff... u just gotta love compiz! if people can do that for free imagine what they could do for money... just an idea!
And yet nobody seems to care about these things... but hey... we got a new welcome screen... that makes up for everything else!

dpcdpc11 said,
.. not a new kernel, improved stability, better performance etc...

Wow are you right, it isn't like I was able to load windows 7 on a 5 year IBM R40 thinkpad with 1G of ram and and 32MB video card and have it run pretty smoothly. Obviously I won't be doing any video editing, but everything runs great. Vista wouldn't even load, Windows 7 loaded, had drivers, and was up in running in about an hour, and it hasn't crashed yet, been 4 months now.

You're right, the absence of jelly windows is definitely a severe problem in Windows...

I always have to laugh at people that seem to think a new kernel is needed in order for Windows to be truly new. Especially considering there's really not much wrong with the kernel. Kernel, it's the magic word for some people so it seems. I bet you can't even explain me what a kernel is and what it truly affects.

You blame others for being pathetic because they like a login screen while you truly show how superficial you are by judging an entire OS based on a screenshot. You seem to only judge a book by it's cover so to say.

If you would have used Windows 7 you would now that it IS more stable and that it IS performing better and that usability has improved greatly.

Furthermore if you're so psyched about Compiz wobbly windows and what not, why just not use it and be happy with it and leave us losers struggling with that inferior OS? Obviously you're way to good to use Windows, so how can this article even interest you, let alone be worth commenting on?

ir0nw0lf said,
Wished I could get my 2 minutes back after reading that babble...

so it took you 2 mins to read my ****... there's a genius on the rise!

k7of9 said,
You're right, the absence of jelly windows is definitely a severe problem in Windows...

I always have to laugh at people that seem to think a new kernel is needed in order for Windows to be truly new. Especially considering there's really not much wrong with the kernel. Kernel, it's the magic word for some people so it seems. I bet you can't even explain me what a kernel is and what it truly affects.

You blame others for being pathetic because they like a login screen while you truly show how superficial you are by judging an entire OS based on a screenshot. You seem to only judge a book by it's cover so to say.

If you would have used Windows 7 you would now that it IS more stable and that it IS performing better and that usability has improved greatly.

Furthermore if you're so psyched about Compiz wobbly windows and what not, why just not use it and be happy with it and leave us losers struggling with that inferior OS? Obviously you're way to good to use Windows, so how can this article even interest you, let alone be worth commenting on?

another genius.. good.. the world really needs people like your my friend... you know where right? at the bottom of the grand canyon! don't you think that after all these years M$ is into OS business the stability and performance would be common sense? let's give M$ the nobel piece price for making a stable OS in 2009! so let's work with the current kernel, ok? at least for now which is pretty stable on my Vista 64 machine.. and yeah... they need some geniuses there to make the current stable kernel more stable... and you kinda missed the point there buddy... judging an OS from it's welcome screen is superficial but it's not me the one doing it! why didn't you said anything about the theming system in windows? maybe because I was right? could be! do you not realize how useless is all the fancy interface if you can't exploit it at its maximum? it's not about the wobbly windows in compiz... i was trying to make a point there... clearly you missed it... but i'll be glad to explain it in plain english... the point was that it's pretty amazing what a free software looks like compared to the super hyped Windows OS which is clearly monopolistic and making tones of money for M$!
it's clear as daylight that i'm talking to a 4 year old and M$ fan boy who can't be objective in his comment because he doesn't have the notion of decency when it comes to software... everyone can see it's a damn ripoff and i'll buy it like the rest of the turds cause i have no other choice obviously!

Oh yes, of course. If you aren't against anything MS does you're a fanboy...I didn't see that one coming! Really good argument there.
You know, if you actually had something worthwhile to say you wouldn't have to resort to trying to insult people to make a point. And you accuse me of not being able to be objective...priceless.
Oh, and for someone that clearly considers himself as intellectually superior your English is quite...terrible.
There, I think that's enough energy wasted on you.

k7of9 said,
Oh yes, of course. If you aren't against anything MS does you're a fanboy...I didn't see that one coming! Really good argument there.
You know, if you actually had something worthwhile to say you wouldn't have to resort to trying to insult people to make a point. And you accuse me of not being able to be objective...priceless.
Oh, and for someone that clearly considers himself as intellectually superior your English is quite...terrible.
There, I think that's enough energy wasted on you.

so in order for me to be intellectual... I a dude from freaking Romania got to have a perfect English.. accent? or what? dumbass! your point is totally relevant to this discussion... brava genius!
and instead of replying to what I actually said there and point what are the flaws in my statement and come up with some solid arguments... you totally ignore the important things and comment the meaningless stuff... and sorry for making you spend energy on me fanboy specially in this time of crisis when the energy is so expensive!

Jughead said,
stfu and go home troll

hey tithead... bright comment there.. congrats... must have taken you some time to think of it! what would the world be without people like you? errr.. let me guess... a better world? definitely!

I doubt it. RC builds (and build close to RC, like this one) tend to expire about 3-4 months after RTM.

Vista RC1/RC2 didn't expire until May 2007, almost a full 4 months after retail

Very cool, I'll have to download this to upgrade the old machine at home I have running build 7000 32bit. Looks pretty cool, can't wait to see how they've fine tuned it. Guess the machine isn't that old now that I think about it... P4 3.0GHz, 2.5GB DDR-400, 80GB hdd and a 8800GT.

I wonder where hardgiant found x64, I've got a VM just waiting to get upgraded as well!

I think he was just joking.

Just hang tight though, I'm sure Neowin will report as soon as the x64 version hits the torrent sites.

interesting that the eval runs out in 2010 perhaps that article about not releasing this year might have had some truth to it ?

seems like is a big change. I mean, the welcome screen. Its a lot of work to do that. Recompiling and add a new bmp probably is one of the most hardest tasks on this world

ThePitt said,
seems like is a big change. I mean, the welcome screen. Its a lot of work to do that. Recompiling and add a new bmp probably is one of the most hardest tasks on this world


You do realise that MS can't go to Google, seek for "nice wallpaper" and add it as welcome screen, right?

FoxieFoxie said,
You do realise that MS can't go to Google, seek for "nice wallpaper" and add it as welcome screen, right?


It's not like they would have to anyway though, MS owns one of the largest collections of photography and art in the world.

ThePitt said,
seems like is a big change. I mean, the welcome screen. Its a lot of work to do that. Recompiling and add a new bmp probably is one of the most hardest tasks on this world

The welcome screen is not the only change in this build. More bugs would have been fixed and there are a few user interface tweaks.

I suggest you research how software development works, for your own sake

No, however Russian and Slovenian users (it's the user-customizable keyboard layout) -- I guess they somehow got their hands on this early on.

cork1958 said,
Almost getting rediculous in their way of trying to put Vista behind them already!!

Actually 2-3 years is the usual time for Microsoft to produce a version of Windows. Just look at all previous versions of Windows prior to Vista. Vista was the exception. So Microsoft aren't trying to put Vista behind them at all, no special case here.

FoxieFoxie said,
List of changes, please?

Um, this article? MS don't provide changelogs, especially for leaked builds (!), so it's up to the community to find changes at the moment.

Kirkburn said,
Um, this article? MS don't provide changelogs, especially for leaked builds (!), so it's up to the community to find changes at the moment.


7000 > 7048 had a list of changes, etc. This article says: new startup screen, terms of c...

They should also change the welcome text though. Remove the orb, and make it bigger and more smooth. But it's coming nicely together. Can you imagine this is just RC1? This will be the most polished version of Windows ever released.

Dannydeman said,
They should also change the welcome text though. Remove the orb, and make it bigger and more smooth. But it's coming nicely together. Can you imagine this is just RC1? This will be the most polished version of Windows ever released.

I read somewhere this morning that Windows 7 Beta outperforms Vista SP2 and XP SP3 It definitely will be the most polished ever. Party on, Microsoft...I can't wait.

Jugalator said,
Nothing special going on with the superbar there, that's visible in that screenshot at least, but it's good to settle one's curiosity at least. :p

Hang on - I just noticed the brighter shade of glass background that distinguishes between the orb, the application icons and the tray icons?

DonC said,
Hang on - I just noticed the brighter shade of glass background that distinguishes between the orb, the application icons and the tray icons?

Very hard to tell considering the non-transparent theme is being used.

Jugalator said,
I masturbate to this new startup screen now. Loving it. I'll just lock my door now. :)

You don't know how much that comment has made my night!

Heh, I was never claiming you did.

I was hinting at the sometimes rather odd thin line though. Given the build string on Neowin, it takes about 3.4 seconds to Google for a source.

Sam Symons Live said,
Funny, I thought people didn't like Neowin posting news about illegal things I kid, but still.

I like Neowin posting news about everything on topic. This is definitely on topic. Without the links this is 100% OK.

tom5 said,
I like Neowin posting news about everything on topic. This is definitely on topic. Without the links this is 100% OK.

Precisely! I personally love this type of news I agree with you Jugulator Don't worry, I know you weren't claiming I do I just remember someone complained to me that we post build leaks..confused me at times, heh. Ah well. I best be quiet now, before I start an argument with somebody lol.

Yeah, you don't want me jumping in and getting all serious. :P

Seriously though, I hope Frogboy sees to it that none of the Stardock products do get leaked ahead of time. I can assure you that, given the examples set forth by Neowin, I'll be the first as well as the loudest one to shout the news.

I can't believe people are reading so much into the expire date. We should all be happy that we won't have to go back to vista/xp before it gets RTM'd.

timster said,
yea, just fixed the problem. just had to delete a couple folders under AppData


I have this problem too. Can you give details on the fix please. Much appreciated.

Lmao the same thing happened to me (but I saw it in the forums). Then I had to wait like an hour to get 7057 build, not much time was lost and totally worth it. One thing I might add is that on previous builds before 7057 I'd get raid 0 installation problems. Windows 7 refused to recognize my striped drives. I'd usually have to do ridiculous maneuvers like uncheck the (hide uncompatible drivers) for my nforce raid drivers. Then redo it like 15-20 times in many different ways with tons of restarts (I'm not kidding, but that does make me sound a little desperate to get it installed in raid 0 haha). Took me once 2 days to get my comp back up back in build 7022, then a couple of hours for build 7048 which was today. But in build 7057 I just installed the normal sata_raid and sata_ide drivers ONCE without having to redo it. I DON'T know if I got extremely lucky or if this driver bug, whatever you want to call it was fixed.

wow sweet new startup, i can't imagine the changes in the end product ... poll, whos buying windows 7 when it goes retail? and did you buy vista

I'll be getting 7 when it's final. I didn't but Vista as I got it for free from the PowerTogether promo. Hopefull 7 will have something similar.

artfuldodga said,
wow sweet new startup, i can't imagine the changes in the end product ... poll, whos buying windows 7 when it goes retail? and did you buy vista

I'm getting it for sure - also got Vista too.

Tekkerson said,
Not yet. I don't seem to be prompted every second like Vista's UAC. Guess it'll come either in RC or maybe RTM.

Dunno what fix you're thinking of, but that ain't it. It's not going to get more strict.

Caveman, I have heard from elsewhere the 'UAC level change prompt' update is in this build.

Don't be silly kirkburn, I'm running the 7057 build (maybe I forgot to mention that) but if I wasn't using it right now I wouldn't have answered his question.

Microsoft said they'd change it in RC build, so I was right. There's no change to the UAC security as far as 7057 yet (7057 BUILD IS NOT THE RC, just fyi). If you don't hear it from me you'll hear it somewhere else if you don't believe me, just wait :P

You need to stop hearing stuff and make sure you're right before you say something.

Here's the article:

http://www.neowin.net/news/main/09/02/06/m...or-in-windows-7

"Changing the level of the UAC will also prompt for confirmation" IS in 7057. Try it. That doesn't make this RC though. Could be an RC to the RC. We don't know yet.

Oh! My bad, I thought he meant the "fix" where Microsoft was going to have UAC at maximum setting by default. Sorry for the misunderstanding!

Tekkerson said,
Oh! My bad, I thought he meant the "fix" where Microsoft was going to have UAC at maximum setting by default. Sorry for the misunderstanding!

That's okay, I thought it was just a misreading too Fortunately they're not going down the 'more strict' road, but fixing some issues.

ohh, very... prince of persia. the welcome/shut down screens should fly you from one portal to the next as well!

he's using virtualbox?

Nah he's using VMWare... where'd you get virtualbox from? :S

You can see the program name on the titlebar

And damn can they please change the icons from the Vista ones? Geez

dewaaz said,
Nah he's using VMWare... where'd you get virtualbox from? :S

You can see the program name on the titlebar

And damn can they please change the icons from the Vista ones? Geez :/

The last picture say, Sun xVM VirtualBox. So it absolutely not VMWare.

I think it looks very neat and the style of the bootup/logoff screens marks a difference in terms of design by Microsoft, very different to what they've had us used to I think.

I really am excited for the release candidate even more now, as it will be the first time I install Windows 7 :)

I love the new 'Welcome' and 'Shut Down' screens, but the 'loading' cursor now doesn't seem to go with those and I think that needs updating.

Calum said,
I love the new 'Welcome' and 'Shut Down' screens, but the 'loading' cursor now doesn't seem to go with those and I think that needs updating.

I was thinking the exact same thing. Definitely looks like a "holdover" from Vista now. I don't mind it as a mouse cursor for "waiting," but as a status icon, it's out of place and ugly.

Trajik 2600 said,
I was thinking the exact same thing. Definitely looks like a "holdover" from Vista now. I don't mind it as a mouse cursor for "waiting," but as a status icon, it's out of place and ugly.

Definitely! I'll be giving feedback to Microsoft about this when the release candidate is released!

i think they are growing on me more and more (granted i only saw them 2 times each so far) but at first i wasn't so sure. Seems kinda "fabulous" at first

"fabulous" for sure.

It looks so elegant and green at the same time, like it's trying to say it's both beautiful and energy conservative.

What if the welcome and shutdown screens are associated with the themes?

They included sound schemes into themes in build 7048, so why not custom startup screens from this build?

@chaks
If they do that, they'll run the risk of OEMS putting on their own themes which might not represent the image that MS wants to be known for. It would not be recognizable as a Windows 7 machine. But yeah, as a user I want it to be customizable.

kheldorin said,
@chaks
If they do that, they'll run the risk of OEMS putting on their own themes which might not represent the image that MS wants to be known for. It would not be recognizable as a Windows 7 machine. But yeah, as a user I want it to be customizable.

They will provide guidelines for OEMs to follow. OEMs will follow these because otherwise Microsoft will not allow them to install Windows on their products

Stanclift said,
Diggin' the new startup screen.


I mss the old class look of XP without the welcome screen that just said "Windows is starting up"

warwagon said,
I mss the old class look of XP without the welcome screen that just said "Windows is starting up"

I miss the DOS start up screens, doesn't mean there practical :P

Nice logon screen :D

warwagon said,
I mss the old class look of XP without the welcome screen that just said "Windows is starting up"


why tell people that "windows is starting up", when they know that... "welcome" looks much more simple..

Stanclift said,
Diggin' the new startup screen.


DAAYYAAAAMM!!!!.. cannot wait to see the final version of this OS.. I hope they do more to it......

I feel Microsoft will hit a homerun with this once the release the final version..

In a way. Thank god Vista screwed up.. (to an extent :))

warwagon said,
I mss the old class look of XP without the welcome screen that just said "Windows is starting up"

Yeah, I'd like to avoid drama on my desktop, I want something that stays in the background and doesn't harass me, and isn't brighter and more colorful than the content I'm reading or working on!

There's too much fantasy adventure with the glowing orbs, flowery backgrounds and various other touchy-feely, quasi-Web 2.0 decorative effects and high stylings that the colorblind fruitcake who has been designing the Windows GUI since Vista has added. Seriously, who's going to want this in their office or as a gaming PC? Vista was bad enough with its gradients, now Microsoft has discovered flowers and glowing effects.

I know Steve Ballmer is behind this.

"Ok, we've got enough gradients and glowing effects, now we need... let's see... what do people want.... FLOWERS! We need more flowers!"

This looks so tacky and pitiful compared to what even amateur designers have done it makes me want to laugh, only I'm not laughing because we're going to be stuck with these design choices for years, seeing them every day, at work and at home.

I still hope this is all just beta period experimentation and MS is going to have a new GUI for 7, rather than an even more flashy looking version of Vista's.

And don't tell me to use Windows classic, because that's no excuse.

dimithrak said,
DAAYYAAAAMM!!!!.. cannot wait to see the final version of this OS.. I hope they do more to it......

I feel Microsoft will hit a homerun with this once the release the final version..

In a way. Thank god Vista screwed up.. (to an extent :))


wut?

anyway. what never ceases to amaze u.

thats, my dear, is something i really love to enjoy so much: http://www.epdlp.com/fotos/kubin4.jpg