Windows 8 Acer Iconia W510 tablet priced at $500

Last week, Acer revealed that one of its Windows 8-based tablets, the Iconia W700, would have a price starting at $799 when it goes on sale on October 26th. Today, it was revealed that another Windows 8-based tablet from Acer, the Iconia W510, would have a price of $500.

Engadget reports that the Acer Iconia W510 will have Intel's Atom processor, code named Clover Trail, inside its 10.1 inch tablet. It also reveals that users can choose to purchase an optional keyboard for the Iconia W510.  Without the keyboard, the tablet's batter life is around nine hours, but the article says putting in the keyboard increases the battery time to 18 hours.

The tablet on its own has a microSD slot, a micro-USB port and micro-HDMI port. It also has an eight megapixel camera in the rear and a two megapixel camera in the front. It will also come with a micro-HDMI-to-VGA adapter and a tablet case.The keyboard option ads a full USB 2.0 port, but, oddly, not a full SD card slot.

The tablet comes with 2 GB of RAM. The $500 model gets you a 32 SSD for storage but you can increase that to 64 GB for more money. It's due to launch on November 9th.

Source: Engadget | Image via Engadget

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Please somebody answer:
Can I format this Tablet-PC or whatever it's called and install Linux or Android OS?
There is Android x86 4.0RC2 so this with Android and I've got a powerful tablet.
But still if I cannot install Android, it's better with Linux or Windows 7.
I dislike Windows 8 but please refrain from commenting on Win8

MariosX said,
Please somebody answer:
Can I format this Tablet-PC or whatever it's called and install Linux or Android OS?
There is Android x86 4.0RC2 so this with Android and I've got a powerful tablet.
But still if I cannot install Android, it's better with Linux or Windows 7.
I dislike Windows 8 but please refrain from commenting on Win8

Why dont you just buy an Android tablet? Last time I checked Android x86 is very unstable for daily usage

MariosX said,
Please somebody answer:
Can I format this Tablet-PC or whatever it's called and install Linux or Android OS?
There is Android x86 4.0RC2 so this with Android and I've got a powerful tablet.
But still if I cannot install Android, it's better with Linux or Windows 7.
I dislike Windows 8 but please refrain from commenting on Win8

Possibly...

However, it would be like taking a 1970s Ford Pinto engine and replacing your 2013 ZR1 Corvette Engine.

The real question is why on earth would you want to do this, even if you HATE Windows 8?

Compare:
Windows 8 - Full OS
Android - Limited Mobile OS that isn't even using the Linux kernel fully.

Windows 8 - Full DX11 Graphics and Gaming, Full Gaming engines
Android - Limited OpenGL ES gaming framework, that is slow on Android. (Slow on iOS too.)


Here is the deal, you would be better off doing one of two things...

1) Installing Linux on the Tablet and working around the UI shortcomings.
or
2) Install BlueStacks or similar technology on the Windows 8 tablet, and run Android and Android Apps on top of Windows 8. The x86 power bump over ARM is enough even at the Clovertrail level, that emulated/translation Android can run faster on the Windows 8 x86 tablet.


Or work on getting that Ford Pinto engine in the shiny new Corvette, at least it will look cool, even if barely can hit 60mph.

thenetavenger said,

The real question is why on earth would you want to do this, even if you HATE Windows 8?


Cause,
I hate and don't like Windows 8.
I simply considered them as options there is also a better alternative which I mentioned and is Windows 7.

Why I would really do that?
Cause I like the Laptop-Tablet or whatever's it's called.
I don't care about gaming at all. I won't purchase a tablet pc for gaming
I've got my Xbox 360 or my PC for that.

thenetavenger said,

Possibly...

However, it would be like taking a 1970s Ford Pinto engine and replacing your 2013 ZR1 Corvette Engine.

The real question is why on earth would you want to do this, even if you HATE Windows 8?

Compare:
Windows 8 - Full OS
Android - Limited Mobile OS that isn't even using the Linux kernel fully.

Windows 8 - Full DX11 Graphics and Gaming, Full Gaming engines
Android - Limited OpenGL ES gaming framework, that is slow on Android. (Slow on iOS too.)


Here is the deal, you would be better off doing one of two things...

1) Installing Linux on the Tablet and working around the UI shortcomings.
or
2) Install BlueStacks or similar technology on the Windows 8 tablet, and run Android and Android Apps on top of Windows 8. The x86 power bump over ARM is enough even at the Clovertrail level, that emulated/translation Android can run faster on the Windows 8 x86 tablet.


Or work on getting that Ford Pinto engine in the shiny new Corvette, at least it will look cool, even if barely can hit 60mph.

Precisely.

Windows 8 Pro + BlueStacks = Double-win (on pretty much any CPU with more than two cores).

Why?

Let's be honest; outside of niche software, most applications and games BARELY leverage two cores - and dual-core became practically ubiquitous how long ago?

On top of that, where have most of the hot apps been? In the mobile space (Android and iOS). BlueStacks lets you sideload the apps you have on your Android smartphone *and* you can add new ones from third-party Android app stores, such as the Amazon AppStore. What's more, it works just fine in Windows 8.

And answer me this - why is Windows 7 a better alternative? If it's due to the mouser's playground that is the Start menu, that's fine. (Most folks that want the Start menu hate any alternative to it for Windows 8 - such as Classic Shell and Start8.) However, if it's something else, I'm curious as to what it would be.

PGHammer said,

why is Windows 7 a better alternative? If it's due to the mouser's playground that is the Start menu, that's fine. (Most folks that want the Start menu hate any alternative to it for Windows 8 - such as Classic Shell and Start8.) However, if it's something else, I'm curious as to what it would be.

How can I explain that?
I don't like change.
I mean Windows 8 with Metro UI, MS Store, SSD support, Ribbon UI maybe are cool but I on the other hand do not like change.
I want an OS that's similar to classic Windows like XP or 98.
I only use Windows 7 because it's better than Windows XP on modern PCs
Lets you run latest software, more drivers support, updates, many programs nowdays are based on Windows 7.

And as a Windows 7 user I do not even use pinned applications.
I've created my own Quick Launch toolbar, created a show desktop shortcut just to have a more classic experience.

And to some of us the Classic Start Menu is irreplaceable. Yes Start8 or Classic UI restore or add a start menu in Windows 8 but there are things that need to be changed or I don't like for example Control Panel. It is not anymore Icons and options.
It's more detailed... more tiring to change or find what you want..
It reminds me of Unity in Linux distributions

Maybe all the things I said sound like bull**** to you but that's my point of view and opinion I say no to Windows 8.

I'm still not convinced people need or really want these devices.

As a laptop it has a very small screen, it's possibly ok as a tablet but its quite a large one. What if you need the keyboard and left it at home? What if you go to use your machine and realize you left the tablet part somewhere? Meanwhile your desk looks like a mess with all the wires and cables.

derekaw said,
I'm still not convinced people need or really want these devices.

As a laptop it has a very small screen, it's possibly ok as a tablet but its quite a large one. What if you need the keyboard and left it at home? What if you go to use your machine and realize you left the tablet part somewhere? Meanwhile your desk looks like a mess with all the wires and cables.

Well obviously tablets are selling like hot cakes so someone wants them. Windows 8 tablets are running a full OS which for many is going to be a big draw. I'm not a major Windows 8 fan, but having something fully capable that doesn't rely on the Android Market or Apple App Store is nice. I can use all the software I have on my home machine and won't have to find alternatives. For a lot of people and likely a lot of businesses having that option and not having to find alternatives is going to be a plus. Businesses especially since they won't have to buy different enterprise software or do any different training. Slap one OS environment on all your machines and you are G2G

Having the keyboard option is nice but sadly they are pricing these things a little too high. I hate typing on-screen all he time so I'd add one on but not for that price. Sure it adds more battery but for the cost I'd likely just get a BT.

Richeemxx said,

Well obviously tablets are selling like hot cakes so someone wants them. Windows 8 tablets are running a full OS which for many is going to be a big draw. I'm not a major Windows 8 fan, but having something fully capable that doesn't rely on the Android Market or Apple App Store is nice. I can use all the software I have on my home machine and won't have to find alternatives. For a lot of people and likely a lot of businesses having that option and not having to find alternatives is going to be a plus. Businesses especially since they won't have to buy different enterprise software or do any different training. Slap one OS environment on all your machines and you are G2G

Having the keyboard option is nice but sadly they are pricing these things a little too high. I hate typing on-screen all he time so I'd add one on but not for that price. Sure it adds more battery but for the cost I'd likely just get a BT.


Keep in mind not all Windows 8 tablets will be able to use desktop apps. Only the Surface models can use desktop apps the RT type will be strictly the app experience.

Sekyal said,

Keep in mind not all Windows 8 tablets will be able to use desktop apps. Only the Surface models can use desktop apps the RT type will be strictly the app experience.

No...

Surface has NOTHING to do with anything.

Windows RT = Windows on ARM (WOA)

Surface = Brand name of TWO different Tablets from Microsoft, one that is Windows RT running on ARM and the other is Windows 8 Pro running on Intel.


The only restriction is that Microsoft is not allowing Desktop applications for Windows RT aka ARM based Windows Tablets.

ARM Tablets are to be treated more like an iPad or Android or a Phone, that is very locked down for the MFR and vendor. (Locked down like an iPad for security and vendor control, but with hardware options like Android.)

Intel or x86/x64 tablets are just like a Windows 7 tablet today, there are no restrictions.

ARM based Windows tablets have a disadvantage in that existing x86/x64 software cannot run on it, thus Microsoft is saying to developers since you will have to recompile your software for the ARM CPU anyway, go the next step and Make the UI Tablet friendly. *This is why the restriction on desktop applications exist on Windows RT (WOA) devices.

This is a interesting device, specially since the KB dock has the extra battery and adds to the overall life of the device. The key here is the new Clover Trail CPU/IGP. I'll wait for some reviews on the different tablets before I decide, I'm going to be waiting for the Surface Pro to hit anyways unless the baseline Surface comes in at a good price then I could get both or a Surface and something like this, only time will tell.

In France a major retailer is beginning to talk about win8 tablets, and the iconia tab w510 will be priced at 599€ with the keyboard dock included. however they are talking about 8hours of battery life, not 9.

http://pic.twitter.com/FDnNa2py

it's a pretty good deal, since the w500 running win7 used to cost the same price despite the fact that the keyboard dock was just a keyboard/ethernet adapter without battery.

As the w500 was a very well designed device, I think I'll be tempted to buy the w510.

So $750 with the keyboard when you can get the W700 for $800 which has an i3 CPU w/Intel HD 4000 graphics, 4GB RAM, bigger screen, dock, USB 3.0, etc... I feel with the keyboard it shouldn't be more than $600-650.

Its a shame $500 cant just be converted to £ as it would be about £317 for this tablet which is a great price. Im guessing £400 in the UK? If so that would still be awesome!

Richard Cousins said,
Its a shame $500 cant just be converted to £ as it would be about £317 for this tablet which is a great price. Im guessing £400 in the UK? If so that would still be awesome!

US pricing doesn't include sales tax (varies per state). So It's $500 into £ + 20% VAT. Which is about £375, and thus £400 is a good guess. But my point is that you're not really paying that much extra due to anything Acer does - it's the government that pushes the price up with the VAT!

LULZ at Optional keyboard for $250.....

External keyboards/docks are the DLC of tablet hardware... it should come with it...

xendrome said,
LULZ at Optional keyboard for $250.....

External keyboards/docks are the DLC of tablet hardware... it should come with it...


yep, that dock/keyboard combo is way too expensive. it should be $99 - $149

xendrome said,
LULZ at Optional keyboard for $250.....

External keyboards/docks are the DLC of tablet hardware... it should come with it...

This isn't an ordinary keyboard. This keyboard has an extra battery that doubles the tablet's battery life to 18 hours. It also has USB ports and swivels back to become a stand.

Kevin Hsu said,

This isn't an ordinary keyboard. This keyboard has an extra battery that doubles the tablet's battery life to 18 hours. It also has USB ports and swivels back to become a stand.

It swivels
GAME CHANGER WATCH OUT MICROSOFT!

Kevin Hsu said,

This isn't an ordinary keyboard. This keyboard has an extra battery that doubles the tablet's battery life to 18 hours. It also has USB ports and swivels back to become a stand.

True but they could have priced it at $149. $250 just seems excessive.

Sadelwo said,

True but they could have priced it at $149. $250 just seems excessive.

There are conflicting reports right now, so I'm not certain what to believe. The source of this article is Engadget, which reports $250. But there is another article published today on Engadget which reports the cost to be $150.

Sadelwo said,

True but they could have priced it at $149. $250 just seems excessive.

Yeah, I agree. I was just pointing out that it's not $250 for a plain old keyboard, but that there actually are special things about it.

You dum dums, the keyboard dock is $150

=========================================

32GB = $500
64GB = $600
64GB w/ keyboard bundle = $750

==========================================

You can buy the keyboard separately for $150, but they are bundling it with the 64GB model as well. It does not cost $250 more! You are getting a different model of the tablet with double the storage space in that keyboard bundle.

The Verge explains the pricing breakdown much better:

http://www.theverge.com/2012/1...onia-w510-preview-windows-8


David Pierce actually knows what he's talking about.

Edited by Avatar Roku, Oct 9 2012, 9:17pm :