Windows 8 Milestone 2 signed off this week, M3 to start next week

win8milestones

A recent roadmap shown off by Mary Jo Foley over at Zdnet tells us a story about how the progress work for Windows 8 M2 was scheduled. The timeline also tells us that Microsoft is planning to start coding Windows 8 M3 next week on Monday.

According to the timetable, Windows 8 M2 coding began back on September 27, 2010 and it took slightly over a month to complete. On November 5, M2 was integrated where it began its bug fixing on December 6. The weeks to follow focused on more bug fixes and 'locking down' the code.

Windows 8 M3 is already scheduled to begin coding next week on February 28, 2011. If the development for M3 is anywhere near the length of time as M2, Windows 8 RTM would be right on schedule for a mid-2012 release.

Another interesting thing to point out is that the final build candidate for Windows 8 M2 will be signed off on Wednesday, and the developers tasks will be assigned on Friday.

Report a problem with article
Previous Story

Microsoft pushes out update to WP7 devices, it isnt 'Nodo'

Next Story

Zynga valued at $10 billion, seeking IPO in 2012

39 Comments

Commenting is disabled on this article.

Microsoft, can you finally please integrate the Games for Windows Live client into Windows so I have contact list, experience browsing, chat with friends, etc from within windows without having to load up a game first. Giving us a storefront only is all well and good, but I want the rest of the Live features too please.

They've been promising this for literally years and have not yet delivered.

TCLN Ryster said,
Microsoft, can you finally please integrate the Games for Windows Live client into Windows so I have contact list, experience browsing, chat with friends, etc from within windows without having to load up a game first. Giving us a storefront only is all well and good, but I want the rest of the Live features too please.

They've been promising this for literally years and have not yet delivered.

Wouldn't that be considered a monopolistic business practice and anti-competitive strategy to incorporate that software?

briangw said,

Wouldn't that be considered a monopolistic business practice and anti-competitive strategy to incorporate that software?

Why would you suggest that?? Not like they couldn't offer a 'decline this service' disclaimer etc...

TCLN Ryster said,
Microsoft, can you finally please integrate the Games for Windows Live client into Windows so I have contact list, experience browsing, chat with friends, etc from within windows without having to load up a game first. Giving us a storefront only is all well and good, but I want the rest of the Live features too please.

They've been promising this for literally years and have not yet delivered.

Good idea

TCLN Ryster said,
Microsoft, can you finally please integrate the Games for Windows Live client into Windows so I have contact list, experience browsing, chat with friends, etc from within windows without having to load up a game first. Giving us a storefront only is all well and good, but I want the rest of the Live features too please.

They've been promising this for literally years and have not yet delivered.

Why does it need to be integrated - why not just add the feature to the 'Live Essentials' download instead?

WP7 said,

Why would you suggest that?? Not like they couldn't offer a 'decline this service' disclaimer etc...

Well, if that's the case, how come they didn't do it for the items they integrated that they were sued on by the EU????

I could hope for a new UI but I really don't need one. The UI is fine and the reason why I love Windows over OSX any day.

Besides, what they don't change, they can't screw up!

Some new features or UI tweaks etc... are always welcome!

blahism said,

Not rumors, that much we do know

I suppose I need to clarify more. I meant there are rumors that the new UI and app store are already integrated into these early builds.

I am totally amazed that a leak hasn't occured yet. Microsoft finally getting their leaky plumbing fixed, or just not enough interest in someone leaking it at this point?

ir0nw0lf said,
I am totally amazed that a leak hasn't occured yet. Microsoft finally getting their leaky plumbing fixed, or just not enough interest in someone leaking it at this point?

At this point i doubt any UI changes have occurred, which is a huge draw for leaks. So most likely no interest in a leak thus far.

ir0nw0lf said,
I am totally amazed that a leak hasn't occured yet. Microsoft finally getting their leaky plumbing fixed, or just not enough interest in someone leaking it at this point?

A leak probably hasn't occurred because there's not much to see yet, apart from bugs. Last we seen, it still looks like Windows 7.

Kushan said,

A leak probably hasn't occurred because there's not much to see yet, apart from bugs. Last we seen, it still looks like Windows 7.

LOL - you say that like those of us that love leaked windows builds care if theres anything new to see. Don't you know? If I have any windows on my machine with a build number higher than yours, even if I can only run BSOD - I still win!

Soulsiphon said,

LOL - you say that like those of us that love leaked windows builds care if theres anything new to see. Don't you know? If I have any windows on my machine with a build number higher than yours, even if I can only run BSOD - I still win!


+1. Knowing you have something more advanced than the other one, makes you strong XD.

Odd thing I've noticed is that while Windows has these milestones, features don't show up in builds released publicly until Microsoft wants them to like the redesigned taskbar in Windows 7. It seems they may be feature complete but disabled for the public to see. Is that correct?

dagamer34 said,
Odd thing I've noticed is that while Windows has these milestones, features don't show up in builds released publicly until Microsoft wants them to like the redesigned taskbar in Windows 7. It seems they may be feature complete but disabled for the public to see. Is that correct?

Most likely.

Some leaked builds had features disabled like the taskbar you mentioned. Either MS gave instructions to enable these functions or decided developers didn't need these features and rather just needed the new code to modify their apps.

Mr. Dee said,
I hope they are building that Touch Centric Windows UI I suggested.

Yes, because what you suggest goes directly onto their to-do list.

TCLN Ryster said,

Yes, because what you suggest goes directly onto their to-do list.

well thats what their latest Windows 7 commercials said.. lol

Mr. Dee said,
I hope they are building that Touch Centric Windows UI I suggested.

its not going to save them from iOS or android. Only thing that could possibly do that would be WP7/8/whatever on a tablet, and they have expressed their non interest in that.

Nexus- said,

its not going to save them from iOS or android. Only thing that could possibly do that would be WP7/8/whatever on a tablet, and they have expressed their non interest in that.

There is no logic in your statement, so I'm going to assume you are just expressing your personal wishes.

For iOS and Android to replace Windows on over 1 billion and counting computers, it would take many years. Even if iOS sales were doubled over what they were last year, it would take nearly 50 years to replace Windows. So even being generous to both iOS and Android, it will be another 10 to 20 years before Windows will 'need saving'.

The second thing that people with posts like yours fail to understand is that Microsoft has a long history of Tablet, and Smartphone sales. They might have failed at marketing them to the general public, but you could buy WinCE tablets over 10 years ago, and Windows phones over 7 years ago. Microsoft is not behind in technology, they are only behind in pitching their products to the general population and catering their UI offering to non-technical users where the iPhone and Android market has grown.

Windows 7 is almost as light as iOS and Android already, and it has a rather well done with touch and pen input UI model considering it caters to older UI concepts and still accomodates them.

If Microsoft needs to save Windows from iOS or Android, all they have to do is coordinate a Silverlight like OS platform layer on top of Windows, like they did with WP7, and they have everything iOS and Android can offer, and everything Windows and a full desktop OS can offer.

If they want to stay 'faster' than iOS and Android, they could evolve the WP7 based on WinCE platform to tablets, as it is a fast light OS designed for devices, unlike the core iOS and Android kernels and Application layers. iOS and Android's kernel technologies are heavy, almost as heavy as the core kernel of Windows 7 (NT) if not heavier.

This is why the WinCE based kernel in WP7 phones on the same Snapdragon hardware is several times faster than Android, and has GPU performance numbers up to 8x Android on the same hardware. This is also why WP7 is faster than the iPhone4, even though iPhone4's hardware in theory should be significantly faster.

TCLN Ryster said,

Yes, because what you suggest goes directly onto their to-do list.

Nope. It's more like what the FBI and governments suggest go on it. Like putting in snooping tools so uncle can watch your every move. Cloud they tout = no search warrant opposition from the third party. What does he care if your privacy is violated. Thats why the cloud is being pushed. Think how easy it is for me to get your data from a third party. Think how easy is for the third party to copy your stuff from their server. This is so idiotic. People have no sense of security. Its like putting your food in your neighbors freezer and complaining if their kid eat your sandwich. Windows = nanny cam from governments.

So,every four hours or so we re going to be updated with every bug they get fixed on windows 8.Cool.

Nope, but when major milestone builds are nearing completion it might be nice to get some info. As we now know that Wed will be the sign off date for M2 we might just see a leak.

If we re going to get reports nearing completion, then we are going to get reports just before completion,right after,in the beggining of the next milestone etc etc. That was my point in the previous post.But as it seems thats just me, carry on.

Gi0 said,
If we re going to get reports nearing completion, then we are going to get reports just before completion,right after,in the beggining of the next milestone etc etc. That was my point in the previous post.But as it seems thats just me, carry on.

This IS the primary reason neoWIN was set up, yano.

Gi0 said,
So,every four hours or so we re going to be updated with every bug they get fixed on windows 8.Cool.

we're updated everytime the wp7 marketplace gets another batch of 100 apps. so I dont see the problem.

Gi0 said,
So,every four hours or so we re going to be updated with every bug they get fixed on windows 8.Cool.

we hear reports that maybe they are thinking about a chance of releasing an Ipad 3 at sometime in the far future.. so why cant i hear about actual work being done on the biggest OS in the world??...

Hollow.Droid said,
Nope, but when major milestone builds are nearing completion it might be nice to get some info. As we now know that Wed will be the sign off date for M2 we might just see a leak.

go wzor!

Gi0 said,
So,every four hours or so we re going to be updated with every bug they get fixed on windows 8.Cool.

Windows 8, infinitely uninteresting.