Windows 8 Release Preview available for download

The Windows 8 Release Preview is now live. As we first reported on Wednesday night, Microsoft is now offering public download links for the latest version of Windows 8. The company had previously said the Windows 8 Release Preview would be made available sometime in the first week of June. However, its possible that Microsoft decided to offer to launch the Release Preview a bit earlier than planned due to leaks of the Chinese version that started popping up on the Internet earlier this week.

Windows 8 Release Preview on Technet: Download Here
Windows 8 Release Preview: Download here
Product Key: TK8TP-9JN6P-7X7WW-RFFTV-B7QPF

Windows 8 Support Forum: Here

Microsoft first launched the Developers Preview of Windows 8 in September and the Consumer Preview in early February. This Release Preview version of Windows 8 should have several improvements compared to the Consumer Preview.

The Release Preview version will almost certainly be the last that will be offered for free to the public before Microsoft completes its work on the final retail version of Windows 8. That should happen later this summer, according to previous reports ,and Windows 8 is currently expected to be made available for sale to the public later this fall.

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The interface is sexy, I do admit. However, it's the functionality that is not as great in terms of the start menu. I hate how programs are put in small boxes with little icons and the programs titles are wrapped to fit inside the tiny box. Just doesn't match up well aesthetically with the default Windows 8 icons on the left. If you wanna look for default programs like notepad, paint, calculator, etc. you have to do a search or right click and hit "all apps". Another step or two compared to having a start menu.

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windows 8 is sexy but already a big fail!! without the simple start button makes this OS totally unfamiliar and a nightmare to use! bring back the darn start button! I will stick to windows 7 as the best OS ever created by M$

thanks to the so called super fast connection of third world countries.. Downloading at 50 kilo bytes per second.. 22 hours remaining..

Release Preview didn't detect my devices >.< But Consumer Preview did lol.. I hate doing things manually. Still, it's a bit funny to mess around with. I noticed it didn't ask me for my Windows Live to sign in this time too. They sure shuffled it up a bit, but it feels a bit more solid. I wonder if this release preview will offer complete performance same as final release or if they're planning more tweaks?

Been using the Release Preview since it was available. I gotta say, I find myself clicking the left lower task bar in hopes of a start menu. I've installed a few applications and I have to click "show all" apps each time and on top of that, there are no folders, which means there's a lot of tiles showing from the install files including the (1) the program itself, (2) read me, (3) uninstall and (4) help.text. It's ridiculous and messy. Sorry, I just had to vent. I'm all about change, but if it's this messy, no thanks. I'm quite disappointed and I can finally see why a lot of power users are as well.

sendmarksmail said,
a lot of tiles showing from the install files including the (1) the program itself, (2) read me, (3) uninstall and (4) help.text. It's ridiculous and messy.

You are right. This is same as all the links in the Start - All Programs - Program folder! My solution to this issue is to delete needless tiles. I also used to delete all these not required from Windows 7 (readme are mostly worthless and I uninstall from "Programs and Features:").

I am all out for Windows 8. It is even faster than Windows 7. Explorer has a very new look that is better than the previous in Win7. Went through most of the preview apps. Some of them are very good. All kind of program are working just fine. Except I have not tried Norton cause am afraid that it may be non-compatible.

Using mouse I do not see any problem in using the Metro and felt that I just have to train myself to do a few thing differently and that is all. The integration of services in Metro is fantastic. Once I logon to Windows and see the Metro all my music, photos, mail and other things are unified in one place. Wow. Way to go.

Nice, I've been waiting to give Win8 a spin for months now. Played with the dev preview when that first came out, was not impressed at all. Looking forward to giving this a thorough testing. Go go gadget fourth-hard-drive-that-isn't-being-used!

windows 8 is already a big fail!! without the simple start button makes this OS totally unfamiliar and a nightmare to use! bring back the darn start button! I will stick to windows 7 as the best OS ever created by M$

Q9650 said,
windows 8 is already a big fail!! without the simple start button makes this OS totally unfamiliar and a nightmare to use........ M$

One persons misfortune is another person's delight. I love the face lift and less 3D effects of Win8. What to mention the snappy feel compared to Win7. By the way why you insist on Start button so much. Cause the Metro screen is just like "All Programs" of old interface. What's the big deal?

Windows 8 is just kinda halfway between meh, bleh and blah.

I mean I can adapt to Windows 8 and live with it until Windows 9 if I had to. I'd probably just use it on my day to day laptop so I would at least be familiar with it should I end having to work on a PC that has it.

At the end of the day though seeing what windows 8 is, there is a serious disconnect between what they think is a successful product and a total failure.

Thinking Windows 8 will be a successful product for businesses? That is totally laughable. Most will see this as a radical departure from the basic windows functionality that MS has gotten everyone addicted to for the last 17 years and will simply skip this version. No business that is actually responsible with their money is going to want to deploy this on all their machines. Not only do they have to deal with the costs of upgrading to 8, but all the associated costs of additional support/retraining generated by all their employees that can't just simply adjust to suddenly being sat in front of an 8 PC.

The people in charge of Windows 8 are going for a radical, shocking change no matter the cost for windows 8. Anything they put on the table is better than nothing. Unfortunately the fail boat has sailed and there is no turning back now. No crew member is going to speak up and actually say this may be a doomed voyage.

Working with windows 8 release preview, the only thing I keep asking is "Are they nuts?" If this is seriously the best thing that they can come up with, someone needs to be fired. -_-


Sounds like the same old MS Playbook. Release a buggy beta as a final release, make a few billion and then release the real final version a year later as another new OS. vis-a-vis Win ME, Windows Vista etc. Can't wait for Windows 9, it's gonna be awesome!

Wodin said,
Sounds like the same old MS Playbook. Release a buggy beta as a final release, make a few billion and then release the real final version a year later as another new OS. vis-a-vis Win ME, Windows Vista etc. Can't wait for Windows 9, it's gonna be awesome!

very true, microsoft history speaks for it self

win 3.1 ok
windows 95 ****
windows 98 better
windows me ****
windows xp good
windows vista ****
windows 7 great
windows 8 ****
they will get it better by windows 9, metro will end up like microsoft bob.

nekrosoft13 said,

very true, microsoft history speaks for it self

win 3.1 ok
windows 95 ****
windows 98 better
windows me ****
windows xp good
windows vista ****
windows 7 great
windows 8 ****
they will get it better by windows 9, metro will end up like microsoft bob.


here we go again... are you guys for real with this bulls***? who the hell do you think you're fooling leaving out all the other versions (such as 1, 2, 3, NT, 98SE, 2000 and not to mention Server versions) that doesn't match a stupid pattern?

seems like you don't even understand why majority of users accepted Windows 7 better than Vista. even though 7 is based on Vista and does have many things that people hated about Vista (which was actually so much better than XP in many aspects). it's just that majority adapts slowly and hate sudden changes. and it's understandable when people don't see why these changes been made and whether they prove to be beneficial.

It seems as if the sound issue for on-board speakers on my Dell Vostro 1400 laptop has not been corrected. By default, no sound is played thru the on-board speakers but when a pair of headphones is plugged into the jack, the sound plays fine!
Anyone else experiencing an issue like this?

I can't believe I'm saying this because I ALWAYS upgrade about 8PCs in my home when the new shiny MS OS' come out, but this one? Yeah, I don't think so.

Windows 7 > WinKey > No (for notepad) > Enter - done (1 second)
Windows 8... seizure. Holy screen flickers. Seriously?

ScottDaMan said,
I can't believe I'm saying this because I ALWAYS upgrade about 8PCs in my home when the new shiny MS OS' come out, but this one? Yeah, I don't think so.

Windows 7 > WinKey > No (for notepad) > Enter - done (1 second)
Windows 8... seizure. Holy screen flickers. Seriously?

That's obviously a bug with something. It works exactly the same as in Win7. This is a PREVIEW after all, judging it on something that hasn't been released is ridiculous

th3r3turn said,
NICE! downloading @ 5.3MB /sec. time to format and install!

Hey, my Savior and Redemptor, please come over and help me with your x5+ redeeming power. I'm going at "only" 1.2 MB por sec!

Regards from Brazil.

MCHAL.webege.com

As there sounds so much fail towards Windows 8 from these comments (and the forums as well), I will download my first pre-release of Windows to try in a VM. It looks from screenshots that it is DOS with true colour and mouse support. Should be an interesting experience as I have only experienced up to Windows XP (which by the way was a pleasure to use) before moving to Ubuntu full time. Wonder how it will stack up against XP and Ubuntu's Unity.

ShMaunder said,
As there sounds so much fail towards Windows 8 from these comments (and the forums as well), I will download my first pre-release of Windows to try in a VM. It looks from screenshots that it is DOS with true colour and mouse support. Should be an interesting experience as I have only experienced up to Windows XP (which by the way was a pleasure to use) before moving to Ubuntu full time. Wonder how it will stack up against XP and Ubuntu's Unity.

Bandwidth could be used for better things but certainly give it a try to see the fail in person, it's more "genuine" that way just remember the time you spend on 8 can never be reclaimed lol

I think those complaining about the navigation are missing some things. I find it pretty easy to navigate from one app to another, yes, with a mouse and without using win key. Love the UI, once I got used to it. I do think they either took or gave a few queue's from some of the most recent linux builds. Either way, I like it.

Yes, of course we're missing some things. Like how to do some things. For a release preview, there's a lot to be said with the complete lack of "here's how to do some things". A 2 minute video would've offset a mountain of bad press this is getting because people just don't know how to do what they used to do. What are we supposed to do, fish for it?

Yes, I can figure it out, but it's so non-intuitive that it's jarring. The start button was pretty intuitive and MS still spent a million bucks on a "Start me up" campaign with the Rolling Stones just so people wouldn't get lost. Where is that now?

I give serious props to MS for how this would work on a tablet, but as a desktop platform, I just don't understand it.

mram said,
Yes, of course we're missing some things. Like how to do some things. For a release preview, there's a lot to be said with the complete lack of "here's how to do some things". A 2 minute video would've offset a mountain of bad press this is getting because people just don't know how to do what they used to do. What are we supposed to do, fish for it?

Yes, I can figure it out, but it's so non-intuitive that it's jarring. The start button was pretty intuitive and MS still spent a million bucks on a "Start me up" campaign with the Rolling Stones just so people wouldn't get lost. Where is that now?

I give serious props to MS for how this would work on a tablet, but as a desktop
platform, I just don't understand it.

I am by no means a "power user" but i find it to be pretty intuitive myself. Especially if you've used a tablet previously. I basicly look at it as the start button menu spread out in tiles. Works for me.

I've used tablets, but I don't understand the logic of swiping from the top to bottom of the screen to close apps. That doesn't seem intuitive to me. Or a corner of the screen for "start".

No tears here. Yup I'm a card carrying fan boy, but I'd be the first to trash it if it was that bad. I have no trouble powering through my workflow AT ALL. The Travel App, and the Bing News App are really nicely done, and I love the chromeless UI.

Pros:
- all of my apps are running no problem, although I haven't installed Avid Studio yet.
- restarts before I have a chance to flush the toilet
- Multitasking? If you can't figure out the left side of the screen, then I'm not sure how you figure computers out at all.
- Insanely good multi screen support, I have 3 fat ones.
- lots of little options added, like ability to make certain items on the screen larger as opposed to the entire text size In general.

Cons
- can't figure out how to zoom in on email, (I use Outlook anyway, but just thinking outloud on the mail app.)
- can't figure out how to delete a calendar appt., and can't drag and drop appointments around which is pretty annoying.
- I'm am perplexed as to why anyone at MS would think that it is easier to close an app by dragging an app from top to bottom of the screen, rather than just right clicking and then having a BIG FAT X button to close
- video app really should have ability to see scenes AS I fast forward, ala Netflix.
- can't figure out how to zoom in on news apps etc. feeling a little dumb there.
- not sure why I should not have access to my favorites list in IE Metro, but I'm kind of over it.

So that is just the first hour of messing around really. I think it's going to kick ass in the tablet market, and no doubt some folks that really aren't computer saavy at all will have some confusion, but is that really the majority of us these days?

I like it, I'm partial, but I'm also not confused. Best 1.0 I've ever seen.
Now I'm going to try to install Avid Studio, this is where it can all come apart for me.

Avid Studio, which would NOT run on the first two previews runs blazing fast in Win 8. Lets all check our reliability monitors in one week and report back here. It's a little annoying that to find that now, I have to hit start, then type REL, then click on settings, but I got over it pretty quick.

So far the biggest fail for me is that I can no longer instant search Outlook, unless I go to the App first. This is a major bummer for me as I use that feature ALL DAY LONG, not anymore. PLEASE MS, bring this back ASAP.

Probably the worst OS I have ever used in my life. Windows 3.0 was a pleasure to use in comparison with this. This is a phone OS, period. They can claim it's for the desktop all they want but it isn't a desktop OS. I hope it turns out to be their biggest failure in the history of the company, their desperation in competing with Apple's iphone and ipad is getting ridiculous.

Really disappointed. The preview missed a huge opportunity to show a tutorial. If I hadn't watched videos of how to get the "start" experience by moving the mouse to the corner of the screen, I never would've known.

With no touch interface, no start button (on a mac, in a VM), I am infuriated by no simple way to get to "start". Do they really expect me to move my mouse to a microscopic point of the screen corner? What ... the ... hell, Microsoft. That's pretty arrogant.

mram said,
Really disappointed. The preview missed a huge opportunity to show a tutorial. If I hadn't watched videos of how to get the "start" experience by moving the mouse to the corner of the screen, I never would've known.

With no touch interface, no start button (on a mac, in a VM), I am infuriated by no simple way to get to "start". Do they really expect me to move my mouse to a microscopic point of the screen corner? What ... the ... hell, Microsoft. That's pretty arrogant.

It's a PREVIEW for gods sake. Your grandma isn't going to be installing this, she'll be getting the ACTUAL VERSION.

Yes, it's a preview. Just like Vista, the preview word-of-mouth made the product poorly received. Just like previews of movies make people not want to see them when they are released. Previews are "pre-reviews" of close-to-final or near-final products. Seriously, even if the product were not entirely done yet, I could've spent 5 minutes in notepad coming up with some notes on "this is how to actually use the product you just got". There is nothing like that here. There is absolutely no notification for anyone to know how to use the product.

It is a huge missed opportunity.

Yes, I absolutely concede that MS could put something in the ACTUAL VERSION and not the PREVIEW, but nearly half of the reviewer base here are shaking their head and going "wtf?" and if you don't think this will reflect poorly on the release product...

Well I gave windows 8 its fair shake, completely disappointed to say the least, I'll be sticking with 7 for a few more years, there's just nothing good about having a horrible metro interface on the desktop and in your face plus the complete lack of choice to make windows "your windows" without hacking it.

Of course the fanboys and their sock-puppets love it to death but they would have loved it regardless.

gg windows 8.

Order_66 said,

Of course the fanboys and their sock-puppets love it to death but they would have loved it regardless.

Of course, you're the only one with an authentic opinion, everyone else's is phony. Must feel great to be so smart.

Order_66 said,
Well I gave windows 8 its fair shake, completely disappointed to say the least, I'll be sticking with 7 for a few more years, there's just nothing good about having a horrible metro interface on the desktop and in your face plus the complete lack of choice to make windows "your windows" without hacking it.

Of course the fanboys and their sock-puppets love it to death but they would have loved it regardless.

gg windows 8.


lol upvote so true

J_R_G said,

Of course, you're the only one with an authentic opinion, everyone else's is phony. Must feel great to be so smart.

Why thank you J_R_G, that is very kind of you to notice.

I can't seem to install flash, all it says is that it couldn't register ActiveX. The troubleshooting guide on adobe tells me to run it in administrative mode, however, that doesn't work. I'll try after a reboot.

Anyone else having the same problem?

Mickez said,
I can't seem to install flash, all it says is that it couldn't register ActiveX. The troubleshooting guide on adobe tells me to run it in administrative mode, however, that doesn't work. I'll try after a reboot.

Anyone else having the same problem?

In this build flash should already be installed

majortom1981 said,

In this build flash should already be installed

It is for internet explorer, however, not for firefox D:

As much as I am excited about it, I will only download it tomorrow!! But yeah, can't wait to see the improvements and especially touch pad specific enhancements!!

paul0544 said,
Hot corners when using Synergy sucks balls (impossible).

Try mouse without borders. Works great with the hot corners on RP. ON the beta it stunk.

Nearly finished downloading. Can't wait to see the improvements they've talked about. Was pretty happy with CP so should be happier with RP.

A little review here:
Tried it and I am disappointed.

It is more or less the same as the Consumer Preview.
Things I'd hoped to see *fixed* but they are as same as in CP:
- back/forward mouse buttons working in Metro Apps / Start Screen for quick existing
- a more sane way to shut down the PC

All in all there is way too much Win Key pressing needed and I find it quickly annoyed by it.

For real desktop use (power users), the Metro apps are simple toys (I like the weather app, though), and you'll find yourself in 95% situations clicking "Desktop" when booting this OS. So in 95% cases start-up wise you'll have a worse experience than in Windows 7.

The desktop got flatter, the Aero theme got updated and it'll get updated again in final version. I find it pretty nice, although I personally prefer the darker Vista/Win7 theme.

The icons from "regular" desktop are the same (from Windows7), and are way too much "3d" for the flatter interface MS wants to introduce. Hope they'll got changed in final version, as they are now inconsistent with the new UI.

The good:
- Windows 8 is fast, even in a virtual machine. Seems even faster than Windows 7
- The new task manager
- several improvements to Windows explorer

The bad:
- constantly switching back and forth Start Screen&Desktop is a sub-par experience and get annoying pretty quickly
- too much use of Win Key. You can't navigate this OS using purely the mouse, as in previous Windows-es.
- inconsistent UI, the Start Screen seem from another world vis-a-vis regular desktop, they use totally different paradigms, and feel like two OS-es merged together
- unintuitive UI (too much hot spots, the lack of "close" buttons in metro apps and the inability to use back/forward mouse buttons) will make it a nightmare for beginners especially
- the "charms" bar
- two settings panels (the one from Charm bar and the "legacy" Control panel), making it a confusing mess
- Metro apps are way too basic for pretty much everyone except n00bs.

Verdict: BIG FLOP (on Desktop). There are 95% chances that will flop even worse than Vista.

Sorry, MS, but this is the first version of Windows that I'll pass. I'm not gonna even install the final version unless I read that some of the big usability issues I mentioned have been ironed out. Sorry.

Edited by Dot Catrix, May 31 2012, 9:48pm :

Mortis said,

- inconsistent UI, the Start Screen seem from another world vis-a-vis regular desktop, they use totally different paradigms, and feel like two OS-es merged together
- Metro apps are way too basic for pretty much everyone except n00bs.

- That's kinda the whole point. They supposed to be different. Desktop is just a application compatibility shell for legacy apps, and those complex apps not suited for the Metro interface. Windows 8 is designed to be a metro platform first and foremost. Until there are metro apps to perform 95% of your daily tasks with your PC, the OS is not going to be complete. Apps make or break any new platform.
- You branding all "Metro apps" as "too basic" and "for n00bs" based purely on a small handful of preview apps? Let's face it, no matter how much you protest otherwise, you have no idea what Metro apps are capable of.

Yeah, it's bizarre that the standard back/forward buttons on mice don't work within the Metro interface. Snapping a Metro app to the side will still leave your main screen blank, requiring you to click to return to the start screen (hiding the pinned app) and click again to restore the desktop (revealing the pinned app). Once an app has been snapped you can't drag it back to fullscreen like you would with Aero Snap, instead you have to click the separating bar. With multi-monitors if you go to snap a Metro app to the side of the screen then the second you move your mouse to the second screen it will immediately jump and fill the entire second screen, unless you use the tiny corner - you can't drag it back with the same gesture (you have to reclick). It doesn't make sense to have different gestures for Aero and Metro. And Aero Snap (what are we meant to call it now Aero has been replaced?) doesn't work in the new corner-catches they've created - it's snaps to fullscreen rather than side-snap. The same is true if you have different sized monitors and you drag a desktop app to the side of the screen - it snaps to fullscreen, not side-snap.

Basically Metro is still a work-in-progress, which is concerning for this late in development. Microsoft has barely addressed any of the core usability issues and has actually created some new ones with the multi-monitor Metro support. I was looking forward to the RP based upon the changes Microsoft announced but aside from the corner-catches - which are poorly implemented - the situation hasn't improved.

I like Windows 8 and will probably be upgrading as there are some definite improvements. But it's definitely going to annoy a lot of users. It just isn't enough of an improvement from the CP as it needed to be.

PS - Where's the tutorial?

Mortis said,
A little review here:

-Constantly switching back and forth Start Screen&Desktop is a sub-par experience and get annoying pretty quickly
- too much use of Win Key. You can't navigate this OS using purely the mouse, as in previous Windows-es.

how are you switching between start screen/desktop?

And what are you using winkey for so much?

oliver182 said,

And what are you using winkey for so much?

As there is no "close" button, a WinKey press is always needed to "exit" from a Metro app. Of course, you can still press Alt+F4 if you really want to close it. Correct me if I'm wrong and there's any other way to to it (on the desktop) that escapes me.

Good to read some good honest opinions. I have to say my experience of the previous preview was similar to yours.. I just found it so irritatingly un-intuitive to get around, I quickly lost patience with it.

The overall design of Metro, and how it's implemented into the UI as a concept is neat and it's nice to see Microsoft taking a new / brave direction but I just am not warming to it - and certainly when I tried it in Windows 8 preview I thought it didn't add anything to the experience over Server 2008 R2. It's like it's change for change's sake. It works for stuff with not much content but as soon as you have something more heavily loaded like Server Manager it looks incredibly cluttered.

I want to be proven wrong and will of course make the time to try out Windows 8 / Server 2012 previews now they've been refreshed but am really not optimistic.

TCLN Ryster said,

Desktop is just a application compatibility shell for legacy apps, and those complex apps not suited for the Metro interface.

You nailed exactly what's wrong with Windows 8: Microsoft is making this OS first and foremost with dumb users in mind and sets the desktop app complexity bar way too low. It seems like an OS made especially for the average Joe, leaving all compromises to be made by the power users.

Windows 8 just seems like a toy car (metro apps) with a Ferrari engine inside (the regular, "legacy", desktop).

Mortis said,

As there is no "close" button, a WinKey press is always needed to "exit" from a Metro app. Of course, you can still press Alt+F4 if you really want to close it. Correct me if I'm wrong and there's any other way to to it (on the desktop) that escapes me.

You can CLOSE a metro app . Put the cursor to the left of the screen hover over the metro app right click and close.

majortom1981 said,

You can CLOSE a metro app . Put the cursor to the left of the screen hover over the metro app right click and close.

To go back to the start screen I just move quickly my cursor to the lower left corner and click, click on the upper left corner and you'll switch to the next app.

To close the app you can put your cursor on the upper side of the app and just drag it to the bottom. that's it

Mortis said,
A little review here:
Tried it and I am disappointed.

For real desktop use (power users), the Metro apps are simple toys (I like the weather app, though), and you'll find yourself in 95% situations clicking "Desktop" when booting this OS. So in 95% cases start-up wise you'll have a worse experience than in Windows 7.

It's the Windows SideBar on Steroids. On Win7 we have the option to keep it disabled, and that's how should be on Win8.

Anyhow, let's play a little until we get bored. I just allocated 50GB for the installation on my WD Black. Not a chance just for fun to install it on my boot SSD drive.

I had a problem previously... If you set Win 8 as default OS and, say, you wanted to boot on Windows 7 in Win8's Post-Screen selection, you needed a freakin' reboot... You had to re-set Win 7 as default to solve this mess... Still same problem?

PC EliTiST said,

It's the Windows SideBar on Steroids. On Win7 we have the option to keep it disabled, and that's how should be on Win8.

Anyhow, let's play a little until we get bored. I just allocated 50GB for the installation on my WD Black. Not a chance just for fun to install it on my boot SSD drive.

I had a problem previously... If you set Win 8 as default OS and, say, you wanted to boot on Windows 7 in Win8's Post-Screen selection, you needed a freakin' reboot... You had to re-set Win 7 as default to solve this mess... Still same problem?

I don't have that problem, I can chose and boot in windows 7 with windows 8 enabled as default

re-downloaded but again diff hashes:

CRC32: F38D717D
MD5: B43A69AD5A5FA931E81548711373B9AC
SHA-1: 795DB4D5DCBD083C84DA94D1A565A2F3251A1217

gulshan666 said,
re-downloaded but again diff hashes:

CRC32: F38D717D
MD5: B43A69AD5A5FA931E81548711373B9AC
SHA-1: 795DB4D5DCBD083C84DA94D1A565A2F3251A1217

Where are you downloading it from?

Guys, what are your file hashes? mine are different from MS.... though file size is correct : 3.27 GB

CRC32: 5F8FD3D9
MD5: E003C3FA560F757846568A8320CD2697
SHA-1: 973827AD07A678AB0D14DF4132E5FCDE676DF119

Ok, it still sucks with multiple monitors. When you pin a Metro app to the side of a secondary screen, it looks fine. Untill you open the Starscreen on your main monitor. All of the sudden, the pinned app moves to your primary monitor? It's so annoying! Hope this is a bug and not a feature, this makes Metro unusable!!

None of my problems that I had with the CP seems to be fixed. Usability in Metro is as bad as it always was. The main-theme is ugly with this 10% Metro stuff and 90% old Windows stuff, but atleast that'll be fixed in the RTM..

I have two options: ignore Metro, remove all the stupid metro apps and use the startscreen as a startmenu.

Option two: just go back to Windows 7..

I can confirm the issue. Metro is appalling with multi-monitors now. If you have three monitors you should be able to run six Metro apps but with the current system apps disappear if you access Metro on a different screen. Seriously, wtf were they thinking when they implemented it like this?

It's the same with dragging Metro apps. You can't use the Aero Snap gesture to maximise them, meaning once they're side-snapped you cannot drag them to full-size. Instead you have to move the separating bar. It's a complete mess of contrasting implementations. Before anyone tries to be smart and claim Aero and Metro aren't meant to be the same, we're talking about dragging and dropping apps on the desktop - Metro apps should behave to desktop rules.

Wow, that was my biggest complaint about the previous version. This thing fails at multiple monitors and that's all I use. Sorry MS, I'm sticking with Windows 7.

Jose_49 said,
Also, can someone confirm if the search now includes folders?
Nope, not as far as I can tell - it's still limited to Files, Settings and Apps. Searching for folders under Files produces no folder results.

theyarecomingforyou said,
Nope, not as far as I can tell - it's still limited to Files, Settings and Apps. Searching for folders under Files produces no folder results.

Thanks

exotoxic said,
It works.

Yes it does! . And it's better than before.
Thanks a lot for confirming it anyways!

Start button, you're back!

Downloaded very quickly. The install was certainly quicker than the CP and there were new options for customisation when first launching.

It's very similar to the CP, though for some reason on Metro Start when you right-click the All Apps options is now on the right - that means a lot of mouse movement just to open it. It was bad enough before but someone Microsoft managed to make it worse. The Xbox Live tile now works in the UK. The Mail app is still appalling, as are all the bundled apps but they're still in preview. The new scrollbars are present everywhere, including Chrome. It seems a bit more snappy overall.

Overall some decent improvements but Microsoft still hasn't address most of the core usability issues.

Secure Boot isn't compatible with your PC
Your PC's firmware doesn't support Secure Boot so you won't be able to use it in Windows 8.

Should i be worried? lol

3dfxman said,
Secure Boot isn't compatible with your PC
Your PC's firmware doesn't support Secure Boot so you won't be able to use it in Windows 8.

Should i be worried? lol

Nope. You need UEFI for Secure-Boot.

3dfxman said,
Secure Boot isn't compatible with your PC
Your PC's firmware doesn't support Secure Boot so you won't be able to use it in Windows 8.

Should i be worried? lol

Nop, I guess :-P

3dfxman said,

So would this come in the form of a bios update?


No, you won't have/get a UEFI firmware for your motherboard.

3dfxman said,

So would this come in the form of a bios update?

It will come in a form of a brand new motherboard, P67-chipset or newer which supports UEFI ( not all newer M/Bs support it ).

How long is the key and installation good for? I'm going to put this on a old laptop I have 32bit version but I don't want to load it and then in less than 1 year time have to go back to Windows XP on it. If longer than 1 year that be great.

sava700 said,
How long is the key and installation good for? I'm going to put this on a old laptop I have 32bit version but I don't want to load it and then in less than 1 year time have to go back to Windows XP on it. If longer than 1 year that be great.

January 2013... I think.

Dot Matrix said,

January 2013... I think.


That was the CP I think, the RP may be until a bit later. I could be wrong though.

Whats the difference between my keys I get from my TechNet acct and the one that is provided to the public?

david said,
Whats the difference between my keys I get from my TechNet acct and the one that is provided to the public?

Nobody knows yet, I would go with the technet version just in case.

david said,
Whats the difference between my keys I get from my TechNet acct and the one that is provided to the public?

Perhaps expiration date? As majortom1981 said, if you have the choice, use your Technet code.

I iistalled without any issues. Most apps still 'App Prievew' geez. SkyDrive, Weather, Email are still app preview, I don't see Skydrive desktop integration. Not many changes.

hummell said,
I iistalled without any issues. Most apps still 'App Prievew' geez. SkyDrive, Weather, Email are still app preview, I don't see Skydrive desktop integration. Not many changes.

Of course they're still "App Preview", why wouldn't they be? These are separate apps, not part of Windows. The development of the apps was always going to lag behind the OS itself.

can we upgrade over CP?

the upgrade assistant didn't complain , guess that mean ok?

edit:

nevermind
as per usual, No >.>

Edited by Ci7, May 31 2012, 7:40pm :

Ci7 said,
can we upgrade over CP?

the upgrade assistant didn't complain , guess that mean ok?

edit:

nevermind
as per usual, No >.>

Does the install simply fail or does it spit an error out?

Wait, you wanna upgrade from Beta to RC or from Windows 7 to RC? If it's beta, i doubt they'd wanna keep all that dead code around! Beta means TESTING so it shouldn't be a big deal to wipe and start fresh anyways. If your "friend" stupidly used it as his main system then, lesson learned!

SHoTTa35 said,
Wait, you wanna upgrade from Beta to RC or from Windows 7 to RC? If it's beta, i doubt they'd wanna keep all that dead code around! Beta means TESTING so it shouldn't be a big deal to wipe and start fresh anyways. If your "friend" stupidly used it as his main system then, lesson learned!

Windows 7 to RC, which should work though. I plan to do this myself, since I backed up my SSD. I can roll back anytime I want. Upgrading will be important for a lot of people.

Dannydeman said,

Windows 7 to RC, which should work though. I plan to do this myself, since I backed up my SSD. I can roll back anytime I want. Upgrading will be important for a lot of people.


Yeah but not to an RC. Maybe Win7 to RTM sure but I doubt any one this is intended for is planning to upgrade their normal running system to a test build

SHoTTa35 said,

Yeah but not to an RC. Maybe Win7 to RTM sure but I doubt any one this is intended for is planning to upgrade their normal running system to a test build

Win 7 to CP was no problem for me..

Dannydeman said,
My friend only had the option "Keep personal files only" or "Nothing". Why can't he upgrade? This is weird..

Is the language supported? If it isn't you can only keep personal files.

Dannydeman said,
My friend only had the option "Keep personal files only" or "Nothing". Why can't he upgrade? This is weird..

Yea, why upgrade? You will get errors that normally won't appear. This is testing software.

Hope they improved over the CP! I especially hoped they fixed the audio driver issue for some laptops (Dell Vostro 1400 here and no sound was playable through the on board speakers - but when headphones were plugged into the jack.. the sound was fine!)

este said,
Hope they improved over the CP! I especially hoped they fixed the audio driver issue for some laptops (Dell Vostro 1400 here and no sound was playable through the on board speakers - but when headphones were plugged into the jack.. the sound was fine!)

Well, unfortunately some bad news. The on board speakers STILL will not work. Anyone else running into this issue?

sanke1 said,
Steady 1.3 MB/s. Vodafone HSPA+ network. 40 Min to go

3+GB on a Mobile data tarriff? I sure hope you're on unlimited data, otherwise... OUCH!

Steady 1.2MB/s. Yes its slow in comparison to a few of you but at least I'm getting full! Hopefully this plays nice with Bootcamp.

majortom1981 said,
Now if we can only figure out the diff between the msdn/technet version and the public versions of the RC

there is no difference. both are the same build

majortom1981 said,
Now if we can only figure out the diff between the msdn/technet version and the public versions of the RC

Are you sure there is a difference?

timster said,

there is no difference. both are the same build

The ISO's are named differently and the technet version has different keys then the public version.

majortom1981 said,

The ISO's are named differently and the technet version has different keys then the public version.


oh man, what a big difference

timster said,

oh man, what a big difference

IF you have ever used technet or msdn there could be ahuge difference like what apps are installed or if they are VL versions, things like that.

majortom1981 said,

IF you have ever used technet or msdn there could be ahuge difference like what apps are installed or if they are VL versions, things like that.

the only difference is that in their iso they include tools for dev. Is the same build + tools. No other difference... I checked it.

Open Minded said,
I really wasn't interested in this new version until I read your comment about how bitches are now included.

Gave me a chuckle

srprimeaux said,
Going to hold off until the madness subsides.

I wouldn't, the longer you wait the slower the download speed is going to be....

statm1 said,

I wouldn't, the longer you wait the slower the download speed is going to be....

I'm not in any hurry, personally. By next week, I'm sure I won't have a problem.

Here we go people!!!

Downloading...

Like with the Consumer Preview, I'm going to dual boot (install via thumb drive).

dbphillips said,
6.25/sec MB download from technet… 3 minutes left til complete-- I love Fiber !
How fare along into the download were you?>

8.6MB/s here, no fiber, just 100/20 cable...

dbphillips said,
6.25/sec MB download from technet… 3 minutes left til complete-- I love Fiber !

dbphillips said,
6.25/sec MB download from technet… 3 minutes left til complete-- I love Fiber !

250 KB/s at max. Hooray for 3rd world country!

nesl247 said,
If you are upgrading from the CP, it looks like it'll become a fresh install. It will move everything to Windows.old.

Is this for real?? It's really ****ing me off. I tried to install & that was the only option available to me. I already have all my software preconfigured on my test machine but I still don't want a clean install. I thought they would make every option available in the test version (especially in the Release Preview) of the software. WTF..

TCLN Ryster said,

Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't each key tied to your Microsoft account this time around rather than it being the same key for everyone?

i'll correct you, the key is the same for everyone. see the windows-8/iso link that people keep posting

TCLN Ryster said,

<facepalm>

Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't each key tied to your Microsoft account this time around rather than it being the same key for everyone?

<facepalm>

TCLN Ryster said,

<facepalm>

Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't each key tied to your Microsoft account this time around rather than it being the same key for everyone?

ahh no

<facepalm>

timster said,

i'll correct you, the key is the same for everyone. see the windows-8/iso link that people keep posting

I have 10 keys that were assigned to me..

david said,

I have 10 keys that were assigned to me..

I also have 3 keys, all different that were assigned to me. If it's the same key for everybody, why would I have 3 different keys?

Also pmrd, toysoldier and timster... I based my incorrect assumption on the fact that when I downloaded it from Technet, the site generated three keys for me. Why would Technet users need to have personally generated keys rather than using the "one key to rule them all"? Anyhow, forgive me

Edited by Ryster, May 31 2012, 8:21pm :

Defcon said,
Downloading at 550KBps !

I'm downloading at around 600KBps! Muwahwahahwahaa / Note: This is pretty damn insane for my crap connection.

Kelxin said,
Zeke009.... This version is serialized. So even if you download it, you still need a serial number.
Bummer, I was hoping to take advantage of the higher speeds.

zeke009 said,
Bummer, I was hoping to take advantage of the higher speeds.

Higher speeds? 2 or 3 MB/s isn't fast enough for you??

ahhell said,

Higher speeds? 2 or 3 MB/s isn't fast enough for you??

SLLLOW. I downloaded it at 10MB/s at work. I have to wait to get home to install it though. I downloaded the consumer preview at 100MB/s at school (yes, not a typo) when it came out. Used JDownloader to make 20 connections to Microsoft. The thing maxed out my gigabit ethernet card!

torrentthief said,
is there a standalone of IE10 release preview on technet/msdn too?

the IE test drive site has been update but just says the release preview is included in win8. I guess we may not get a new build for windows 7 until rtm

zeke009 said,
Since this "free", can we get a torrent posted here for sharing/seeding?

Free doesn't mean free to do with as you like, there is still a license agreement and I'm willing to bet that the license agreement includes agreeing not to redistribute it.

zeke009 said,
Since this "free", can we get a torrent posted here for sharing/seeding?

Should be a way, if aint wrong the CP posted here showed a way to add MS server to utorrent so we could d/l from there.
Also Sux to be in the "fifth" world... ETA 4 hours, d/l'ing @209 KB/s

zeke009 said,
Since this "free", can we get a torrent posted here for sharing/seeding?

I hear it's possible to create your own torrents, or so I hear...

Order_66 said,

I hear it's possible to create your own torrents, or so I hear...

Of course it's possible, but it's not an answer to zeke's question.

Sheesh, installed no less than 5 minutes, though I do have ssd, but damn that quick. This is my first install of Win8 so I'll be checking it out for the very first time. Typing this on IE10, its awesome. I do miss the start menu. But let's see the rest and I'll have my thorough judgment. So excite!

WinA said,
Awesome

I thought so too, but then I got this http://dl.dropbox.com/u/5044270/win8noupgrade.jpg and I was like "no, thanks. if I have to clean install, I rather wait few months more for the real thing now"

I mean, when I installed CP on top of DP at least it moved accounts for me to new installation. I hoped they would improve upgrade mechanism with RP, but instead it's just plain clean install only.