Windows 8: What's new on the desktop experience

Ribbon:

One of the biggest new features in Windows 8 is the ribbon UI across the entire operating system. Almost all native applications will now include the ribbon UI, a very helpful tool for new and experienced users to quickly find what they want.

One of the biggest noticeable changes in Office 2010 was the ribbon was spread across the entire suite. Windows 7 also included a few additional apps with the new ribbon UI, like the calculator…

Microsoft has taken this to the next level by adding the ribbon experience in explorer, a major part of Windows operating system. The ribbon not only keeps all your possible tasks easy to see and use, but organized into tabs and smaller groups. Inexperienced users will be able to share their pictures and videos with their entire network with just a few clicks of a mouse now.

The ribbon uses a dynamic interface, depending on your selection within Windows Explorer. If a user clicks on a photo, document, folder or something else, the ribbon changes the users options to modify the users selection.

New Task Manager:

Microsoft states that over 35% of all Windows users normally use task manager on a weekly basis to kill a task or perform more advanced techniques. A big addition to Windows 8 is the advanced task manager, which includes more detailed and organized read outs of your systems processes.

The new Windows Task Manager comes with a few additional tabs, options and a major facelift. 

The processes tab will include Windows 8’s tablet applications, but when the user is using the Windows 8 desktop experience, these applications will be frozen in their current state, using little to no resources at all, keeping system performance high.

Windows 8 brings a fresh look to the task managers performance tab. Long gone are the ugly green and black graphs of your CPU and memory usage, as Windows 8 brings a colorful and clean looking UI. The updated performance tab now consists of individual graphics, in assorted tabs along the left hand pane, with CPU, memory, disk usage, Bluetooth devices, WWAN and wireless usage.

Tablet users will also find a handy App History tab under their task manager, consisting of all their recent applications they have run with detailed information like amount of time it has run and how much bandwidth the app has used.

Microsoft has also integrated startup items to the task manager tabs, which runs alongside the users, details and services tabs. The details and services tabs remain just as they do in Windows 7, but the users tab now has more detailed read outs of users performance, a helpful tracking tool for multiple users on the same network.

If all of these features are too much for the average user, the task manager also has a compact version, just showing a neat list of all your current running applications.

New UI

There has been a number of ‘leaked’ images floating around of Windows 8 fresh new UI, but all of those don’t seem to really match up to what is present in 8102, and to be completely honest, the UI might even change again before the beta or RTM.

The minimize, maximize and close buttons found in Windows 8 build 8102 are similar to that of Windows 7, but appear to have a more ‘metro’ style to them. The look isn’t very ‘glassy’ like that of Windows 7, and doesn’t contain the blue and red highlights around the buttons when you hover over.

As the new UI is still fresh, a number of older applications, like Windows Media Player 12, are broken under the new theme.

History Vault:

Windows 8 build 8102 does come with the History Vault that leaked a few months back, an automated backup and restore system for individual files, but the application still appears to be unfinished and unusable on a tablet PC.

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I fear for Microsoft. Don't get me wrong I am a long-time Windows user. I have used every consumer iteration since Windows 95. But in the last decade I am noticing a pattern. Try to see it.

Windows Me (Bad) --> Windows XP (Good) --> Windows Vista (Bad) --> Windows 7 (Good) --> Windows "8" (???)

Am I the only one to notice the new file transfer menu? I love the new look. The task manager is a nice update too. I've always been a fan of the ribbon so I have no complaints there. It's a little much to get used to the app suspension and closing them with the task manager (if there's another way other than that, I'll take a hint please). The start button is now one of the most popular buttons.

Wouldn't there be security issues with the way the new Task Manager displays processes? It doesn't show the filename by default, just the process name which could be easily faked by malware.

The compact view looks nice, I hope it allows you to quit jammed programs easily via keyboard.

Its great to see MS implement some more unorthodox ideas into their UI finally. I'm excited to try Windows 8, I haven't been able to say that about a Windows release in many years.

Kudos to MS for having the ***** to try something new, welcome back MS

Unanswered, and it would seem to be very critical to potential buyers. In fact, I think, it had best be provided. During the install, one can chose the default interface to be displayed after boot--cutsy tiles or traditional desktop. Of course, after install, one can use a setting in the Control Panel to change the default interface.

If MS chooses to make the cutsy tiles interface the default interface (a clear and present danger with arrogant companies), with no way to change it, that will certainly irritate (pi__ off) a lot of businesses and serious PC users.

If I bother with Windows 8 the first thing I'll be doing is minimizing the ribbon and adding Back, Forward, Level Up and New Folder to the Quick Access bar.

virtorio said,
If I bother with Windows 8 the first thing I'll be doing is minimizing the ribbon and adding Back, Forward, Level Up and New Folder to the Quick Access bar.

Level up is already there.

Not sure about the ribbon at all (YES I know it can be collapsed), and what the hell is this windows 3.1 addition to the left of the title bar in windows explorer (the small, useless icons there)?

Max Norris said,
You mean the quick access toolbar? If you prefer it to waste more space you can move it elsewhere.

Not so much the quick access arrow icon but all of the other one next to it... it's completely unnecessary

djesteban said,
Not so much the quick access arrow icon but all of the other one next to it... it's completely unnecessary

Well you got the one on the left, that's the usual icon for the window itself, just like any other window. You got the arrow icon you mentioned, which is the customizing menu for the toolbar. The ones in between, that's the toolbar itself. You can pin different functions there depending on how you want it set up.

Being able to suspend applications is only available to "new" Windows 8 start screen apps right, not to the billions of existing Win32 apps.

This UI is the personification of perfection! That Squared and Flat desing, is official? More than perfect! I hope so... And the Ribbon, great!

In a while, a developer version will be avalaible... This desktop mode, will be included?

Max Norris said,
And we have another winner who doesn't know how the ribbon works or can't even bother to read.

And here we have another clueless fanboy.

Athernar said,
And here we have another clueless fanboy.

Uh-huh. I guess you missed the part too where it not only doesn't take more space when collapsed, it can actually use less as you can pin stuff to quick access, negating the need for any menus?

So yea, you're clueless, and I guess illiterate too.

Athernar said,

And here we have another clueless fanboy.

..or someone who didn't bother to read the dev blog about typical display resolutions (low) for laptops that they considered, or how the ribbon is effectively optional, collapsable and configurable far beyond that of what's in 7. Typical blinkered rubbish - MS give you more configurability whilst trying to cater to their core market and yet you're too damn dumb to see it. Wilful ignorance is bliss mate? Moving on..

Max Norris said,

Uh-huh. I guess you missed the part too where it not only doesn't take more space when collapsed, it can actually use less as you can pin stuff to quick access, negating the need for any menus?

So yea, you're clueless, and I guess illiterate too.

The Ribbon is not needed at all in explorer, size is largely irrelevant - it's the sheer uselessness of the widgets presence that is the issue.

But I guess you apologists will willingly suck down what Microsoft feeds you.

dangel said,

..or someone who didn't bother to read the dev blog about typical display resolutions (low) for laptops that they considered, or how the ribbon is effectively optional, collapsable and configurable far beyond that of what's in 7. Typical blinkered rubbish - MS give you more configurability whilst trying to cater to their core market and yet you're too damn dumb to see it. Wilful ignorance is bliss mate? Moving on..

Fanboy troll!!1111

Pointless feature. Get some taste people.

dangel said,
Typical blinkered rubbish - MS give you more configurability whilst trying to cater to their core market and yet you're too damn dumb to see it. Wilful ignorance is bliss mate? Moving on..

Well said. He's just an example of the same old trolling. One day it's Microsoft doesn't innovate anything, the next it's crying that they changed stuff. Doesn't matter, just spouting off whatever it takes to keep their crap going. Athernar, if you don't like it, here's a helpful tip. It's not a required update, just don't f'ing buy it, you don't need to keep crying on and on about it.

Max Norris said,

Well said. He's just an example of the same old trolling. One day it's Microsoft doesn't innovate anything, the next it's crying that they changed stuff. Doesn't matter, just spouting off whatever it takes to keep their crap going. Athernar, if you don't like it, here's a helpful tip. It's not a required update, just don't f'ing buy it, you don't need to keep crying on and on about it.

Stop crying over the fact not everyone is a mindless, drooling Microsoft fanboy.

If you don't like it, tough. Deal with it.

You people are all alike, gulp it down regardless. People like you stifle innovation and lead companies into bad decisions because you're willing to sit there and take it due to some bizarre loyalty.

Athernar said,
Stop crying over the fact not everyone is a mindless, drooling Microsoft fanboy. If you don't like it, tough. Deal with it.

See here's the thing. We're not crying about it, and we do like it, it's you who's crying and carrying on. Again, if you don't like it, don't buy it. Simple. No reason to **** and moan about it repeatedly. Nothing to do about being a fanboy, maybe, just maybe, some of us actually aren't afraid of change and actually like where they're going with this? Do I care if you use it? Hell no, I don't even care if you stop breathing, makes no difference to me, I just rather not see inane trolling like you're doing constantly cluttering things up.. yet here you go on and on about it.

Stifle innovation? Seriously? This coming from the person who apparently doesn't like change? Perhaps you should look up what the word actually means, because I really don't think you understand it.

Desktop is looking a hybrid-can;t-make-our-minds-up mess! Start button in Paul Thurrot's shots looks so out of place and Aero has gone back to the XP look. Weird, but a work in progress to be fair.

Metro looks awesome though.

I like how quite a few people on here hate Metro but are in love with Ribbon lol. Ribbon is by far the most ugliest and cluttered UI ever. I never even liked it when it came out in what...03? When it should have been more appealing in that time period, as it was considered "Modern".

I like how quite a few people on here hate Metro but are in love with Ribbon lol. Ribbon is by far the most ugliest and cluttered UI ever. I never even liked it when it came out in what...03? When it should have been more appealing in that time period, as it was considered "Modern".

profane said,
I like how quite a few people on here hate Metro but are in love with Ribbon lol. Ribbon is by far the most ugliest and cluttered UI ever. I never even liked it when it came out in what...03? When it should have been more appealing in that time period, as it was considered "Modern".

this is funny at least ribbon has color gradient. Metro is plain black and white, the most depressing, boring, uninspiring user interface in human history since the advent of command line interface

I have no idea what Microsoft think they're doing with the titlebar filling it up with toolbar buttons, window title, tabs etc. It looks a mess.

Looks like they took another page from Apple's book when it comes to the task manager. Good choice.

.Neo said,
I have no idea what Microsoft think they're doing with the titlebar filling it up with toolbar buttons, window title, tabs etc. It looks a mess.

That's nothing new, the ribbon has been able to pin custom commands since 2007. Convenient as hell once you get used to it. Don't like it, don't use it. Optional.

.Neo said,
I have no idea what Microsoft think they're doing with the titlebar filling it up with toolbar buttons, window title, tabs etc. It looks a mess.

Looks like they took another page from Apple's book when it comes to the task manager. Good choice.


They had pretty much nailed it with Windows 7's UI. They're now just squaring it off and slapping stuff onto it. Just like they've done with the new startbutton. It looks totally out of place in the taskbar.

.Neo said,
I have no idea what Microsoft think they're doing with the titlebar filling it up with toolbar buttons, window title, tabs etc. It looks a mess.

Looks like they took another page from Apple's book when it comes to the task manager. Good choice.


They had pretty much nailed it with Windows 7's UI. They're now just squaring it off and slapping stuff onto it. Just like they've done with the new startbutton. It looks totally out of place in the taskbar.

Jen Smith said,

That's nothing new, the ribbon has been able to pin custom commands since 2007. Convenient as hell once you get used to it. Don't like it, don't use it. Optional.

I know it's been that way since Office 2007, doesn't mean it suddenly looks good now simply because four years have passed. Convenient or not, the whole thing looks like a cluttered mess. I've always felt that way about the Ribbon.

.Neo said,
I know it's been that way since Office 2007, doesn't mean it suddenly looks good now simply because four years have passed. Convenient or not, the whole thing looks like a cluttered mess. I've always felt that way about the Ribbon.

Then again, don't use it. Collapsed and customized I find it to be a real time saver. Who needs fooling around with dropdown menus when I can pin the stuff I use normally right where I want/need it, plus when on a touch system it'll simplify things as well. Best for both worlds.

It wouldn't surprise me if somebody else who doesn't ribbons comes up with a shell extension to add on the old pulldowns like they did with Office. Or hell, just replace the file manager outright with one of the many that are out there. You're allowed to do that you know. I'm liking it a lot though, takes no more room than the old style (actually less if you've ever had a menu fill up half the screen) yet is easier to navigate, even if you're a keyboard jockey.

Max Norris said,
It wouldn't surprise me if somebody else who doesn't ribbons comes up with a shell extension to add on the old pulldowns like they did with Office. Or hell, just replace the file manager outright with one of the many that are out there. You're allowed to do that you know. I'm liking it a lot though, takes no more room than the old style (actually less if you've ever had a menu fill up half the screen) yet is easier to navigate, even if you're a keyboard jockey.

I'm willing to give it a go - and we're only at a very early stage anyway. Personally, I replace explorer with Directory Opus but that's my choice - it doesn't mean I won't consider improvements to the default filemanager as a potential positive. I'm also very wary of writing off changes before hands-on use. It's also very true to say that it's difficult for people to accept *any* change (comfort zone) even when it's for positive benefit (the W7 explorer is minimalistic to the point of being unfathomable with no visual cues to how the UI works at all). OTOH they seem to be catering towards the other end of the spectrum too - but that's not readily apparent from a bunch of static shots and a cursory glance.

Jen Smith said,

Then again, don't use it. Collapsed and customized I find it to be a real time saver. Who needs fooling around with dropdown menus when I can pin the stuff I use normally right where I want/need it, plus when on a touch system it'll simplify things as well. Best for both worlds.

Yeah trying to hit 16x16 pixel icons is the experience we've all been waiting for on a tablet...

.Neo said,
Yeah trying to hit 16x16 pixel icons is the experience we've all been waiting for on a tablet...

*sigh* Just going to whine about everything you can think of just to keep this going? You don't have to use the quick access toolbar, it's just a shortcut for stuff that's already located elsewhere. If you're mousing it, great, if not, use the ribbon, or just use a program that's designed for the tablet interface vs the desktop. What's so hard to comprehend?

Guys, remember the UI is not finall. For all we know it could have a complete change for beta/final. This is just mostly to have it working and show off functionality. It might just be the barebone UI, nobody really knows. But it's not looking bad at all, I'm liking it. Loving the task bar, the W7 taskbar is so outdated.

Good luck with the ribbon menu in explorer on mainstream notebooks with a resolution of 1366x768. It takes alone about 20% of your display height..

VanChris said,
Good luck with the ribbon menu in explorer on mainstream notebooks with a resolution of 1366x768. It takes alone about 20% of your display height..

Congrats on being the millionth person to comment this exact same sentiment while missing the responses of "you can collapse it."

The only thing I like is the ribbon. the rest makes it look like a dumbed down kids toy. I hope there is something that makes me feel that this is not a Vista all over again where I find it more productive to stay behind.

As usual, Microsoft wins hands down the competition of what company can make the ugliest GUI. With each Windows release, that hideous baby blue color is more present all over the interface, and now it's the background for the whole ribbon interface in each explorer window. Man, why can't Apple sell Mac OS X for non Apple PCs?

sebazwin said,
As usual, Microsoft wins hands down the competition of what company can make the ugliest GUI. With each Windows release, that hideous baby blue color is more present all over the interface, and now it's the background for the whole ribbon interface in each explorer window. Man, why can't Apple sell Mac OS X for non Apple PCs?

Mac has that hideous blue color when hovering on buttons and those hideous close, min, and max buttons. Not to mention it's interface is just plain gray color. Ugly.

Anooxy said,

Mac has that hideous blue color when hovering on buttons and those hideous close, min, and max buttons. Not to mention it's interface is just plain gray color. Ugly.

Indeed, I remember the days of old when Apple shipping with gummy bear blue sliders and the ugliest flat gray UI ever seen...oh wait...

There needs to be a banner here telling people not to keep posting the same crap about the ribbon being too big etc - for "powa" users and luddites alike MS have provided more functionality for you not less. Do some reading!

dangel said,
There needs to be a banner here telling people not to keep posting the same crap about the ribbon being too big etc - for "powa" users and luddites alike MS have provided more functionality for you not less. Do some reading!

Wrong. Try again.

Athernar said,

Wrong. Try again.

Not that I don't appreciate the attention.. but really you post drivel with no substantive content. Once again, pop over to the dev blog and read about the features on offer and then come back with a valid arguement. I doubt you will, Mr Troll.

dangel said,

Not that I don't appreciate the attention.. but really you post drivel with no substantive content. Once again, pop over to the dev blog and read about the features on offer and then come back with a valid arguement. I doubt you will, Mr Troll.

Ah, the good old troll accusation. You must of realised your mistake.

It's okay, I understand.

Athernar said,

Ah, the good old troll accusation. You must of realised your mistake.

It's okay, I understand.

Your responses fail in comparison to Dangel's...

the article said,
Windows 7 also included a few additional apps with the new ribbon UI, like the calculator…

Am I missing something here?

Kuraj said,

Am I missing something here?

i was wondering that as well... since when does the calculator have a ribbon interface?

It's nice that they're making the effort to go in and redo or improve parts of Windows that have generally remained untouched since they were introduced, but ugh. This fetish for squares, block colours and UI design from the 90s needs to stop.

Ribbon in explorer has to be the dumbest thing ever. Not only is it contradictory to the whole Metro "minimalism" thing, but it's just plain idiotic.

Athernar said,
It's nice that they're making the effort to go in and redo or improve parts of Windows that have generally remained untouched since they were introduced, but ugh. This fetish for squares, block colours and UI design from the 90s needs to stop.

Ribbon in explorer has to be the dumbest thing ever. Not only is it contradictory to the whole Metro "minimalism" thing, but it's just plain idiotic.

The ribbon UI is not part of the metro shell, period. Rest of it i can't be bothered with..

dangel said,

The ribbon UI is not part of the metro shell, period. Rest of it i can't be bothered with..

Get a clue. Metro is not a shell, it's a UI paradigm.

A paradigm that is being used across all of Windows 8, not just in the fullscreen/tablet-oriented modes.

Athernar said,

Get a clue. Metro is not a shell, it's a UI paradigm.

A paradigm that is being used across all of Windows 8, not just in the fullscreen/tablet-oriented modes.

Learn to read - I said "metro shell" - there are two seperate shells in Win8 (each loaded on demand). In effect MS are building an OS with two seperate indenties and the "UI paradigm" isn't relevant here - the ribbon simply isn't part of the shell that uses it. The "clues" are on the blog which I suggest you get off your lazy useless ass and read.

dangel said,

Learn to read - I said "metro shell" - there are two seperate shells in Win8 (each loaded on demand). In effect MS are building an OS with two seperate indenties and the "UI paradigm" isn't relevant here - the ribbon simply isn't part of the shell that uses it. The "clues" are on the blog which I suggest you get off your lazy useless ass and read.

Your little brain is malfunctioning. Your comment about the "shell" has no relevance to my original post.

Metro as a UI paradigm and it's use in designing the standard Windows 8 UI is contradictory to the use of a monolithic UI widget such as the ribbon in this context.

Was that so hard to understand? I guess it is if you lack higher brain function.

They finally had the perfect desktop UI in Windows 7. Now they're adding squared corners and whatnot. They even managed to make the close button not match the buttons left of it. Even the glyph in the maximize button isn't centered This new UI doesn't look as appealing as Windows 7's desktop UI

I know that new OS's aren't about the looks and all that, but I just felt like expressing how I felt of it. The newly added features sure are looking promising.

Capric0rn said,
They finally had the perfect desktop UI in Windows 7. Now they're adding squared corners and whatnot. They even managed to make the close button not match the buttons left of it. Even the glyph in the maximize button isn't centered This new UI doesn't look as appealing as Windows 7's desktop UI

I know that new OS's aren't about the looks and all that, but I just felt like expressing how I felt of it. The newly added features sure are looking promising.

i hate the new UI. i agree windows 7 is perfect.

smooth3006 said,

i hate the new UI. i agree windows 7 is perfect.


I guess I've made the right choice of keeping my own version of Aero on hold until Windows 8 is out. It looks like 7's Aero but my own version of it. Lets hope that making themes for Windows 8 will be somewhat easy

smooth3006 said,

i hate the new UI. i agree windows 7 is perfect.


Have you seen the startbutton as well? It's a black image with a new Windows logo in it, slapped onto the Windows 7 looking taskbar

Capric0rn said,

Have you seen the startbutton as well? It's a black image with a new Windows logo in it, slapped onto the Windows 7 looking taskbar

god its DEVELOPERS PREVIEW! stop complaining about something that isnt beta not RC... nothing! its a PREVIEW, do you think they will leave everything as it is? its not like they will not change anything.

Peopel who come to Neowin, sometimes i wonder if they know a little of software developing and design. i mean, its simple... stuff? any people who comes here claming they know about tech because they read tech blogs... and dont know a simple thing like a developer preview its just so developers can start developing for windows 8 and still there is alot of stuff to fix, build and remove and optimize, then oh god...

in other words, use logic and your brain.

Capric0rn said,
They finally had the perfect desktop UI in Windows 7. Now they're adding squared corners and whatnot. They even managed to make the close button not match the buttons left of it. Even the glyph in the maximize button isn't centered This new UI doesn't look as appealing as Windows 7's desktop UI

I know that new OS's aren't about the looks and all that, but I just felt like expressing how I felt of it. The newly added features sure are looking promising.


I like the new UI! Well, both are actually very well designed, so maybe it's the novelty factor playing in here.

EmilyTheStrange said,

god its DEVELOPERS PREVIEW! stop complaining about something that isnt beta not RC... nothing! its a PREVIEW, do you think they will leave everything as it is? its not like they will not change anything.

Peopel who come to Neowin, sometimes i wonder if they know a little of software developing and design. i mean, its simple... stuff? any people who comes here claming they know about tech because they read tech blogs... and dont know a simple thing like a developer preview its just so developers can start developing for windows 8 and still there is alot of stuff to fix, build and remove and optimize, then oh god...

in other words, use logic and your brain.

These are ordinary users griping - not developers.

They see, and correctly, that Metro/Immersive is a threat to the desktop-centricity of the UI in general, and Windows in particular.

Every GUI for the desktop has, naturally, been desktop-centric, and every attempt to move away from that has been met with FUD, ridicule, and outright scorn. (That has not been unique to Windows, but applies equally to Apple and to GNU/FOSS.) Even OS/2 (and eComStation) has remained steadfastly desktop-centric. Windows has the largest user-base, and thus the greatest entrenchment in terms of desktop-centered thinking.

The Developer Preview has set off the alarums, because it is saying that the days of desktop-centricity in the single-most-used OS on the planet are numbered, if not outright over. Desktop-centered thinking has been under assault in the niches (OS X and GNU/FOSS, not to mention iOS); however, this is *Windows* - the heart and soul of desktop-centeredness. Talk about the call to jihad.

smooth3006 said,
is there even a revised aero+transparency in windows 8 for the desktop pc's? i do not want to run metro!

I think the window borders above are transparent. The background image is so uniform (and we're only seeing windows that are selected "active", so it is not obvious.

[quote=smooth3006 said,
You are so right--I can't image any kind of serious data entry user wanting to use the cutsy "Metro" interface. The thought of having my middle finger doing all that tapping on a screen isn't pretty. One-finger data entry? Interesting concept.

TsarNikky said,
[quote=smooth3006 said,
You are so right--I can't image any kind of serious data entry user wanting to use the cutsy "Metro" interface. The thought of having my middle finger doing all that tapping on a screen isn't pretty. One-finger data entry? Interesting concept.

That's why the Metro interface is for tablets..... read people, read.

I know a lot of people don't but I really like the ribbon UI, needs some work though, those icons in the top left of the window needs to go! Yuck...

Nice to see the task manager getting a facelift and some new functionality.

Leonick said,
I know a lot of people don't but I really like the ribbon UI, needs some work though, those icons in the top left of the window needs to go! Yuck...

Nice to see the task manager getting a facelift and some new functionality.

You can hide the Ribbon.

Leonick said,
I know a lot of people don't but I really like the ribbon UI, needs some work though, those icons in the top left of the window needs to go! Yuck...

Nice to see the task manager getting a facelift and some new functionality.

if you're familiar with Office 2010 (or even Office 2007) you can easily modify those, hide those or add your most common commands to the top left.

LaP said,
ribbon is still too big for my taste.

If you double click the label of a tab, it'll roll up the rest of the ribbon interface making it much like the menu system we have already. Quite a nice idea, hopefully there will be little need of pressing alt to show menus now.

BGM said,
oooo ribbon (or whatever it's called these days) in explorer

likey

Oops, did not mean to like the comment lol. I personally hate the Ribbon UI. I like knowing exactly where all the tools I need are at in the Menus, and the Ribbon UI takes up a lot of room. It would be one thing if a person can choose to show the original Menus but if it is anything like Office 2010, we won't even get said option. So you are forced to use the Ribbon UI. I am honestly like very exited for the Metro look like I was for Windows 7.

-Sad Panda-

Kutster said,

Oops, did not mean to like the comment lol. I personally hate the Ribbon UI. I like knowing exactly where all the tools I need are at in the Menus, and the Ribbon UI takes up a lot of room. It would be one thing if a person can choose to show the original Menus but if it is anything like Office 2010, we won't even get said option. So you are forced to use the Ribbon UI. I am honestly like very exited for the Metro look like I was for Windows 7.

-Sad Panda-

You can hide the Ribbon, the little character to do so is on the right. While you won't see the context menus of yesterday when you click on file, but the ribbon will pull down for this temporary usage and then hide.

Using the ribbon looks like it might actually save space when you have it collapsed or hidden.

Kutster said,

Oops, did not mean to like the comment lol. I personally hate the Ribbon UI. I like knowing exactly where all the tools I need are at in the Menus, and the Ribbon UI takes up a lot of room. It would be one thing if a person can choose to show the original Menus but if it is anything like Office 2010, we won't even get said option. So you are forced to use the Ribbon UI. I am honestly like very exited for the Metro look like I was for Windows 7.

-Sad Panda-

Double click the ribbon ---poof it is gone. Press "alt"...there's that file menu.

The ribbon looks awesome to me, and it should be easily hidden just like it is in other Windows apps currently. If you don't like it I'm sure all the same options are still there in the right-click context menu.

Edited by Shadrack, Sep 13 2011, 4:37pm :

Shadrack said,

Double click the ribbon ---poof it is gone. Press "alt"...there's that file menu.

The ribbon looks awesome to me, and it should be easily hidden just like it is in other Windows apps currently. If you don't like it I'm sure all the same options are still there in the right-click context menu.

Had you read what I said, in Office 2010 when you hit Alt, all you get are the keyboard shortcuts for different areas of the Ribbon UI not the old File, Edit, Tools, ect Menus. That is the annoying part of the ribbon I don't like, and the fact that I can never find the exact setting that I am looking for in it or in the "New and Improved context menus."

I am not bashing metro at all, I just don't like it. It just doesn't have the polished 'eye candy" that Windows 7 gives.

Kutster said,
and the fact that I can never find the exact setting that I am looking for in it or in the "New and Improved context menus."
You seriously found it easier to find things in the Office 2003 menus? I suggest that's more a case of being used to something, than it being inherently 'better'.