Windows 8 will hit the shelves in two years

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Just over a year ago, Microsoft released an operating system which we now know to be the fastest selling operating system in history. Neowin reported on Friday that Windows 7 had reached its one year birthday in which time it sold 240 million licenses of the OS.

Today, a Dutch representative for Microsoft posted on the company’s blog that Microsoft is currently working on the next version of Windows and that it will be released to the market in two years. When questioned about the statement, a Microsoft representative refused to comment.

Windows8Beta.com has translated the post: “Furthermore, Microsoft is on course for the next version of Windows. But it will take about two years before “Windows 8 [is] on the market.” In an interview, CEO Steve Ballmer said that he believes the next version of Windows will be Microsoft’s “riskiest product bet," most definitely a true statement with the huge success of Windows 7.

With the release of the problematic Windows Vista in 2007, Microsoft needed to bring something to the table that would rekindle their reputation. It’s definitely fair to say that Windows 7 did that, but can they bring out something even better?

If the announcement is indeed true, it would mean there will be a three year gap between Windows 7 and Windows 8. With businesses flocking to Windows 7 so quickly, is Microsoft making the time gap far too short?

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Well, It's very nice. The main problem with Vista was 5 years gap. Many people who bought new PC even early in 2006 they had only 512MB or 1GB Ram or 128MB AGP but when Vista came they couldn't meet Vista's recommended system requirements. So we all said Vista sucks.

Faisal Islam said,
Well, It's very nice. The main problem with Vista was 5 years gap. Many people who bought new PC even early in 2006 they had only 512MB or 1GB Ram or 128MB AGP but when Vista came they couldn't meet Vista's recommended system requirements. So we all said Vista sucks.

Don't we all remember Windows Millenium ?

This is an excellent reason for XP SP3 users to wait until Win-8 is released and just bypass the Win-7 step and then the Win-8 step.

TsarNikky said,
This is an excellent reason for XP SP3 users to wait until Win-8 is released and just bypass the Win-7 step and then the Win-8 step.

Very good point, I may hold off on replacing my laptop until Win-8. It is running XP, but I am sure that I could get two more years out of it until Win-8 drops.

techguy77 said,
By the time Windows 8 is released XP will be still dominant on market. That tells you something.

False. Right now XP has only about 46% market share. Within the next 12 months it will go down below the 30% mark. And when Windows 8 is released in 2012 XP's market share will be in single digits.

techguy77 said,
By the time Windows 8 is released XP will be still dominant on market. That tells you something.

In 2 and a Half years, Win7 will replace XP

Possibly, but the fact businesses are flocking to w7 may change Microsoft's mind. As people noted in these comments, there aren't many huge features people could think of that would force businesses to upgrade so quickly.

imho im pretty freaking happy with windows 7 ! its been tits . unless win8 has some major changes i will be sticking to win7

Microsoft releases in "Small release" "Big release" "Small release" "Big release"

XP was a small release over Windows 2000
Vista was a big release over XP
7 was a small release over Vista
8 will be a big release over 7.

What a load of bilge. Anyone who has any knowledge of the industry, Microsoft or even recent history, will know that Microsoft will churn out a "refreshed" O/S as often as possible. The windows O/S has been available in three basic forms over Microsoft's history. Windows 3.x Windows 9x and Windows NT (the current incarnation.

Windows 7 was just Vista warmed over. Vista was a bridge too far (from XP). Windows 8 will just be a Windows 7 warm over. Microsoft's spaghetti code is totally out of control, and they are stuck with a long legacy of software that needs to run on their O/S.

Windows 8 , and the 2 / 4 year warm over cycle is needed to keep people (especially "children") interested in the Windows platform. They just add a few more "fad" features, undoubtedly touch screen will be the big deal! Operating systems have become an irrelevance as far as most users are concerned. People expect an intuitive appliance, Linux Mac OSX, Windows, Simbian, it makes little odds to most people now! So long as Windows XP and Vista / 7 / 8 / 2003 / 2008 get their bug fixes. Most companies care little about what they are running.

boho said,
What a load of bilge. Anyone who has any knowledge of the industry, Microsoft or even recent history, will know that Microsoft will churn out a "refreshed" O/S as often as possible. The windows O/S has been available in three basic forms over Microsoft's history. Windows 3.x Windows 9x and Windows NT (the current incarnation.

Windows 7 was just Vista warmed over. Vista was a bridge too far (from XP). Windows 8 will just be a Windows 7 warm over. Microsoft's spaghetti code is totally out of control, and they are stuck with a long legacy of software that needs to run on their O/S.

Windows 8 , and the 2 / 4 year warm over cycle is needed to keep people (especially "children") interested in the Windows platform. They just add a few more "fad" features, undoubtedly touch screen will be the big deal! Operating systems have become an irrelevance as far as most users are concerned. People expect an intuitive appliance, Linux Mac OSX, Windows, Simbian, it makes little odds to most people now! So long as Windows XP and Vista / 7 / 8 / 2003 / 2008 get their bug fixes. Most companies care little about what they are running.


Real talk!!

Good to hear that Windows 8 is coming in 2 years
As already pointed out, I accept the gap of 2-3 years between the OSs rather than taking longer.
But the requirement is the newcomer should be more efficacious and less problematic than the previous (unlike comparing XP --> Vista)

for a home user, xp is sufficient.
of course as a company, MS and its hardware affiliates need to make money.

warr said,
for a home user, xp is sufficient.
of course as a company, MS and its hardware affiliates need to make money.

Only 3.2GB memory?

I would like to see a more centralized and standardized control panel. This way you do not have to go hunting for settings upon numerous dialogs. It should be revamped.

user name said,
I would like to see a more centralized and standardized control panel. This way you do not have to go hunting for settings upon numerous dialogs. It should be revamped.

Yeah like in 3.11... everything was centrealized!

a few thing si can think of just quickly:
- Work on even faster boot time, maybe instant "on"
-not having to restart the computer after installations of things
-new faster file system than ntfs?
-move towards complete 64 bit
-utilising even more of the gpu for hardware accelartion of programs

Hitman2000 said,
a few thing si can think of just quickly:
-not having to restart the computer after installations of things

Where have you been and what kind of apps you install? It does not require reboot since Vista, be it GPU drivers or Minesweeper.

FoxieFoxie said,

Where have you been and what kind of apps you install? It does not require reboot since Vista, be it GPU drivers or Minesweeper.

He means patches I'm sure, not apps or drivers (which don't for the most part). The day you can run windows update, patch the system and not have to reboot at all will be a god send.

Just another one I won't use until it gets forced on the computers at work, then I'll have to go to training and get certified and all that. I guess service packs are too much work for not enough money any more so they have to release an entire operating system and charge a couple hundred a copy for it every year or two. Let's not even get started on all the new ways they'll undoubtedly try to implement DRM and other similar technologies that limit what you can do with your computer.

Sorry, I didn't mean to troll. On a positive note, progress is always good for the end-user, and hopefully with Windows 8 they'll take even more steps toward interconnectivity and interoperability between Windows and other operating systems.

CoMMo said,
Just another one I won't use until it gets forced on the computers at work, then I'll have to go to training and get certified and all that. I guess service packs are too much work for not enough money any more so they have to release an entire operating system and charge a couple hundred a copy for it every year or two. Let's not even get started on all the new ways they'll undoubtedly try to implement DRM and other similar technologies that limit what you can do with your computer...

Being locked in that XP > Vista Limbo has so many of you flustered. Quite entertaining.

CoMMo said,
they'll undoubtedly try to implement DRM and other similar technologies that limit what you can do with your computer.

Limit? Like when you CAN watch blu-ray movie in Windows, but CANNOT watch it in Linux?

Microsoft need not worry. So long as users can execute EXE files, they've got it in the bag. If other operating systems could execute them natively (NATIVELY DAMN YOU!!!!!!) then there would be a big concern of users wanting to try something new just for the sake of exploring.

When I wandered into OS X, I thought it was fun to use, except I couldn't do a darn thing with it. Emulation support is terrible.

I say kudos to MS. Bring on the next version!

While I'm very satisified with Windows, competitors are looking to catch Microsoft off guard like they were with Windows Mobile. So its not to early, they have to address new form factors, personal computing trends and OS licensing costs to OEMs. On the licensing front, I think Microsoft will be making a big push to a subscription/update model. We'll see. But Windows 8 is going to be a major update compared to Windows 7. I'm looking forward to it.

psionicinversion said,
It might use the new file system that they still havnt implemented yet

Nope. That got dumped and broken up to be used in other tech such as MSSQL.

testman said,

Nope. That got dumped and broken up to be used in other tech such as MSSQL.

ExFAT will at some point take over.

psionicinversion said,
It might use the new file system that they still havnt implemented yet

ExFAT is in it already. If you mean WinFS, it wasn't a filesystem. It was a metadata layer that ran on top of NTFS.

1510 said,

ExFAT will at some point take over.

ExFAT is not a successor to NTFS, it's a more limited file system for memory cards and other removable media.


As for WinFS that psionicinversion is probaly referring to, it was never a file system. It was a SQL database that contained meta data for files on an NTFS volume (and the databases were stored as regular NTFS files.)

dave164 said,
I expect a load of cloud and Kinect integration and a heavier focus around social networking.

Yup. That and expect there to be some heavy OS-level integration with the newest Windows Phone 7 devices and software/marketplace.

zkid2010 said,

Yup. That and expect there to be some heavy OS-level integration with the newest Windows Phone 7 devices and software/marketplace.

More touch enhancements as well.

zkid2010 said,

Yup. That and expect there to be some heavy OS-level integration with the newest Windows Phone 7 devices and software/marketplace.

So, what happen if you're not into the social networking, that you don't own a WinPhone7, that you don't care about Kinect and don't have a need for cloud computing? Seems like Win8 could be quite boring for alot of users.

TruckWEB said,

So, what happen if you're not into the social networking, that you don't own a WinPhone7, that you don't care about Kinect and don't have a need for cloud computing? Seems like Win8 could be quite boring for alot of users.

In that case the new eye candy, numerous inprovements in ease of use and security. Will be enough.

TruckWEB said,

So, what happen if you're not into the social networking, that you don't own a WinPhone7, that you don't care about Kinect and don't have a need for cloud computing? Seems like Win8 could be quite boring for alot of users.

and you think you speak for alot of users? look at the numbers of people that do support one of those as opposed to the ones that dont. Good try though.

Drunken Beard said,
Hahaha, I love how you can start a discussion with Q&A, angry people, trolls and the entire team based only on a guess

I agree. At this point we have no idea what is planned for Windows 8. Since it is considered a major update, I'm expecting a good deal more than what has previously been discussed. Who knows what Microsoft is planning at this point?

So that means...if they release Windows 8 around this time in 2012..that means...Windows 7 SP1 should be released around May or June of 2011.

texasghost said,
So that means...if they release Windows 8 around this time in 2012..that means...Windows 7 SP1 should be released around May or June of 2011.

Nope. SP1 is slated for early 2011.

Well if they have some great idea's on how to improve it and they can perfect it within that time frame and there's enough of them to merit a new version of windows then why not ?

It will definitely be interesting to see what Microsoft brings to Windows 8. If the statement that it is coming in 2 years has any merit, I hope to have my hands on the beta in a year. Guess I will start looking at Connect a bit more often.

GreyWolf said,

Which ones do you miss? I can't think of any.

You could also try comparing it to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Features_new_to_Windows_7 which is TONS longer than what got removed.

I personally missed the function of Quicklaunch which I'm forced to add manually now through 7 and the features from Detailed view to be available in List view as it was with Vista. Since I deal with many imagery and files altogether those were a big key to my organization/quick access to apps before they slapped those away and made everything more... larger. Other than that, everything else runs the way I wanted minus the semi gimped Windows Search which I had to set on search even partial matches to get the files I wanted. Sometimes it'll just give me files I didn't even query on the search for. IMO they should introduce new functions as well as keep old ones then slowly phase them out or again have an option to go back to the old ones for those who rely on them.

JAB Creations said,
How can they make it better? I don't know, are there any more useful features actually left in the OS to remove at this point?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/L...es_removed_in_Windows_Vista

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/L...atures_removed_in_Windows_7

Windows XP's UI is fugly, pathetic and completely unusable. Windows Vista/7's explorer is much more productive and beautiful. The search feature in Windows 7 is awesome. Plus there's Aero Snap and great window management. Simply put Windows 7 has improved productivity by a million times compared to the pathetic XP.

pezzonovante said,

Windows XP's UI is fugly, pathetic and completely unusable. Windows Vista/7's explorer is much more productive and beautiful. The search feature in Windows 7 is awesome. Plus there's Aero Snap and great window management. Simply put Windows 7 has improved productivity by a million times compared to the pathetic XP.

Couple of errors in your comment. 1) XP's UI is completely usable...really? 2) Where is the proof that 7 has "improved productivity by a million times"?

Yes, I use 7 on my desktop and still have XP on my notebook. XP is just fine on this notebook until I buy a new one next year. I also prefer 7 over XP. However, you are just being uneducated on the fact that business use software that may be incompatible with 7 (even in XP mode). Next time you travel to a hospital and have a MRI, CT, US or even diagnostic x-rays...chances are that there is software in that chain that can only run on XP. Without such, the Radiologist would not be able to "read" your study. That is just one small sector in the business world.

well i think making a small gap is kind of good
Win 8 might be a vista like in other word a big jump but a lot of people may dislike it.
so for business they might skip Win 8 and go for 9
will hope that Win 8 gets the same attention like 7

DaRkMaDnEsS said,
well i think making a small gap is kind of good
Win 8 might be a vista like in other word a big jump but a lot of people may dislike it.
so for business they might skip Win 8 and go for 9
will hope that Win 8 gets the same attention like 7

Nope. Businesses generally don't upgrade till they absolutely need to. Vista might have been skipped by some businesses but that's only because XP was around so long that any business that hadn't upgraded their Windows 2000 systems eventually did so when XP was still around. Those businesses aren't simply going to move straight away to the next OS si soon after upgrading.

Ridlas said,
I think they need to stick with 7 for at least 5 years. Why the rush?

that was the problem with xp. yes 5 yeas is not as long but every 2 years is decent. we will have few problems with legacy hardware

Ridlas said,
I think they need to stick with 7 for at least 5 years. Why the rush?
Isn't it the new software development lifecycle that they have implemented...every two or three years a new/refresh of windows is made?

Undefineed said,
Isn't it the new software development lifecycle that they have implemented...every two or three years a new/refresh of windows is made?

It's always been like that, with the exception of XP -> Vista, I believe.

Ridlas said,
I think they need to stick with 7 for at least 5 years. Why the rush?

That's one of the reasons why Vista hasn't been accepted by the community. It gave Microsoft enough time to change too many things in the OS.

PsykX said,

That's one of the reasons why Vista hasn't been accepted by the community. It gave Microsoft enough time to change too many things in the OS.
to add to you point smaller changes over time is easy. windows is moving to a almost linux or apple cycle one every year but that would be after windows 8

ironsight2000 said,

that was the problem with xp. yes 5 yeas is not as long but every 2 years is decent. we will have few problems with legacy hardware

As someone has already said, Windows has always seen a release every 1-3 years. The EXCEPTION was XP to Vista. As was clear by this excessive time difference, it allows the incumbent OS to become far too entrenched. Five years is way too long. Of course, no one is forcing you to upgrade and 7 and Vista will be supported for as long as XP is currently.

PsykX said,

That's one of the reasons why Vista hasn't been accepted by the community. It gave Microsoft enough time to change too many things in the OS.

Yes, plus, a lot of that was delays as well... Honestly, I think 3 years is probably a good point to release a new version. I don't think they want to end up with another XP that they can't get people to upgrade from...

testman said,
...7 and Vista will be supported for as long as XP is currently.

Erm, no. XP's extended support is also the exception rather than the rule.

Regarding avoiding people getting entrenched in 7 just as they did with XP, that is a real possibility. When XP came out, it wasn't universally accepted like 7 is. Remember all the "Windows Fisher Price Edition" comments and the like? Because of this, the entrenchment of 7 will be far far worse than XP, so Microsoft really need to get that next version out quickly to avoid another Vista.

Oh, making it run better than Vista did will also help

Ridlas said,
I think they need to stick with 7 for at least 5 years. Why the rush?

Microsoft's strategy is similar. The cycle is planned such that in a 6 year period, a major and a minor release is made. The challenge here is that Win 7 which was intended as a minor release turned out to be the most successful release ever.
And Microsoft planned Win 8 to be a major release.