Windows 8's Windows Update gets detailed

Many of us have been in this spot before. You run Windows Update in Windows 7 or Vista and install the updates. Then suddenly, when you are away or asleep, the system restarts. Not only did it restart, but you were working in a program and left it open. All that data is now gone. Microsoft has now detailed how they aim to fix the problem in Windows 8.

Microsoft started off by noting that 90 percent of Windows 7 users automatically update on Windows 7. The company says that this is a sign that Windows Update is highly trusted, authenticated source of updates. Updating is now viewed as a background maintenance task by users as well and below is a chart detailing the breakdown regarding Windows Update in Windows 7.

 

Windows 7

Automatically install updates

89.30%

Notify me before install

2.38%

Notify me before download

3.44%

Never check for updates

4.88%

Courtesy of Microsoft: Usage of various modes of automatic updating

Further data from the company indicates that 31 percent of users interact with the automatic update, intervening when Windows notifies them of updates, instead of letting the updates just install. Microsoft is making changes to Windows Update for Windows 8 based off the following principles: minimizing restarts, making automatic updating non-intrusive to users, and continuing to keep the PC and its ecosystem up-to-date and secure.

So how does Microsoft plan to accomplish this? For starters, Windows Update will consolidate all the restarts to one restart when security updates are released. There is one exception to this: critical vulnerabilities that require immediate attention. In addition, you will be given an option to hold off the restart for three days. A message will appear on your login screen, notifying you of this. The power button at the bottom of the screen will add new options to reflect this: update and shutdown or update and restart. Check out the examples of this in the gallery.

If the PC has not been restarted after three days, the PC will then automatically restart. However, it will only do this if the PC is not locked. Apps must not be running in the background as well. Once you log back in, Windows will notify you to save your work and restart. For those of you do not automatically update, you will receive a notification that Windows updates are available.

Microsoft says that the Windows Store will include automatic updating for Metro style apps. However, no automatic updating will occur for other 3rd party applications. Microsoft says enabling this would lead to potential mistrust of Windows Update by users.

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And apparently still no support for 3rd party apps to hook into the updater and handle their updates that way instead of each having their own memory-hogging updater software.

LaXu said,
And apparently still no support for 3rd party apps to hook into the updater and handle their updates that way instead of each having their own memory-hogging updater software.

Microsoft is concerned about security for those third party updates. It adds to more vulnerabilities to a system that is pretty secure. Not all vendors have the same standards though

Maybe Microsoft will ensure that multiple updates will be installed in the proper order?? I'm tired of having updates fail, when combined with others. Then, when installed alone (miraculously) it installs correctly. This frequent cause of update fails is a great reason to not install them. Or, having to install them one at a time--often with the obligatory restart.

its really annoying when you want to go to bed, shut the computer down, and windows decides to spend half an hour updating.

or when you have a presentation, you bring your laptop, you turn it on, and it starts completing some random update operation that requires an additional restart.


I've got it install during the day automatically even though it was set for 3AM without my realising, then the prompt to restart came up at the exact moment I hit the enter key on a website, then it restarted and I lost everything I was working on.

Also we should be able to schedule download windows, as some of us have peak/off-peak data caps.

Hopefully apps will be able to announce whether the running state is important--e.g. a weather app has no active data to save so shouldn't hold up restarting.

Very good, now if only they can educate users. The old IT admin at the company I work for had set all PCs (all XP, using downgrade Dell's rights from 7) to "notify before download" and never implemented WSUS on the domain. Most users were used to automatic updates, as they had at home, and ignored the prompts on their office machines. As a result all our PCs were in various degrees of unpatchedness, one even had WinXP SP-2 when I started in 2010. Quite a nightmare to sort through.

I'm glad there will be an Update and Restart option. Why does the computer have to turn off after installing an update?

devHead said,
I'm glad there will be an Update and Restart option. Why does the computer have to turn off after installing an update?

Because computers get tired too.

Enron said,

Because computers get tired too.


+1 lol.
but for +devHead.
because unloading modules from the kernel while running causes services and applications to crash or become unstable. .

I understand the computer has to be shutdown for those services, I just always wondered why the computer itself couldn't be set to just restart / reboot after the updates were done. There's really no difference between installing updates and shutting down (unloading the OS and turning off the PC) and installing updates and rebooting (unloading the OS and restarting the PC).

Of course 95% have it set to automatically, how many times did I set a system to download and warn me, to find out 1-2 weeks down the road it reset itself to 'Automatically install'!?

Farchord said,
Of course 95% have it set to automatically, how many times did I set a system to download and warn me, to find out 1-2 weeks down the road it reset itself to 'Automatically install'!?

It does not reset itself by default, but installing certain Microsoft products will change the Automatic Update setting and/or install Microsoft Update unless you specify otherwise during installation.

Arkose said,

It does not reset itself by default, but installing certain Microsoft products will change the Automatic Update setting and/or install Microsoft Update unless you specify otherwise during installation.

Arkose said,

It does not reset itself by default, but installing certain Microsoft products will change the Automatic Update setting and/or install Microsoft Update unless you specify otherwise during installation.

Another example of how Microsoft, under the guise of being "helpful" really screws with your mind. Not nice!

You run Windows Update in Windows 7 or Vista and install the updates. Then suddenly, when you are away or asleep, the system restarts. Not only did it restart, but you were working in a program and left it open. All that data is now gone.

LOL does that really happen on Windows 7?

Nice... /s

.Neo said,

LOL does that really happen on Windows 7?

Nice... /s


those only happens when it installs updates automatically and leave the PC running for ever.... it automatically restarts after the updates is installed.

That's why one of the first things I do after a clean install is change the settings to 6:00 A.M, which is the time I usually wake up.

.Neo said,

LOL does that really happen on Windows 7?

Nice... /s


There is a registry key to prevent the automated reboot - it kills the timer in the update window => problem solved

simrat said,
Blue kinda looks good actually.

blue looks REALLY good. im kinda starting to hate the plane green look. cant wait to be able to change the colors... id love it even more if you can do clear glass look.

I think Microsoft should also add this message to Windows 8

"Please for the love god, stop cancelling the service pack install"

warwagon said,
I think Microsoft should also add this message to Windows 8

"Please for the love god, stop cancelling the service pack install"

HAHAHAHA! +1

warwagon said,
I think Microsoft should also add this message to Windows 8

"Please for the love god, stop cancelling the service pack install"

Hahahahaahahaha