Windows Live wave 3 beta goes public

Have you been drooling over the latest screenshots of Windows Live wave 3? Now get yourself in on the action. Microsoft is launching the official Windows Live Wave 3 beta today.

Watcher of all things Microsoft Live, LiveSide.net has the links to the official downloads from Microsoft, that include the latest versions of Live Messenger, Movie Maker, Mail with Calendar synchronization, Writer, Photo Gallery, Family Safety and the Outlook Connector. These downloads have been confirmed as functional, and in the case of Windows Live Messenger will install "Version 2009, build 14.0.5027.908"

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This is BETA software!, please use caution when installing it on your system.

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(Hidr0 said @ #30)
Its me or theres no icons for WL Mail!? :confused:

It's like that with the other apps as well. I like it, but I'm not sure if it's a beta only thing.

Hey anyone notice that the audio is really low when someone has logged onto wlm or when you are sending a nudge the audio is much louder when you receive a message. I don't know if it is only effecting me, however it seems very off.

Does anyone know how to make the installer not update a Windows Live app? I want the installer to update Mail and Photo Gallery, but not Messenger.

(rm20010 said @ #28)
Does anyone know how to make the installer not update a Windows Live app? I want the installer to update Mail and Photo Gallery, but not Messenger.

When I installed the beta it gave a list of things which could be installed, so I just unchecked everything but WLM. Should work the same for what you want.

Thanks guys, but I already have Wave 2 Messenger/Mail/Photo Gallery installed. Now when I run this installer, it just says "These programs will be updated: Mail Beta, Messenger Beta, Photo Gallery Beta" without the option to deselect them.

Anyone know how easy it is to revert back to the current Live apps (in my case, just WL Mail and Messenger). I want to try these new versions out, but not full-time (plus, Messenger Live Plus doesn't have a new version yet for the new Messenger, AFAIK). I'd be nice to be able to install Messenger 9 alongside 8.5; can you?

If its hard going back, I might just wait for the final versions...anyone know when that's supposed to be?

Maybe the Mac team will finally get the new version of Messenger w/ webcam out now that WLM 9 is in beta with the new A/V stack.

messenger is good...and the sounds (except for chat message) all other messenger sounds are 'vista' themed..i.e., silent and subtle!

UI is good

Yes, at 12:47pm on 26th September. ;)

That's a silly question really, it's beta so you shouldn't expect production strength stability. Having said that MS betas tend to be fairly stable by the time they go 'public'. Besides, one reason for the public beta is to report bugs and crashes back to MS so they can be fixed.

One thing I noticed with this new version of Messenger is that the Mail button now launches your default browser, rather than being hard coded to use IE. A pity then that it just sends you to http://www.msn.com at the moment rather than your hotmail

I personally love the new interface. Much smoother. The chat window is a welcome change, a lot less crap and more focus on whats important... the conversation.

I find the opposite. Most people read from left to right. If it was focussing on the conversation, they wouldn't have moved the avatars to the left. I want to read the conversation first, not look at humerous pictures of dancing squirrels, etc.

Movie Maker now. What's next, Windows Live Notepad? They are turning all the built in Windows apps into adware. I know Microsoft has fallen on hard times and really needs the money but come on, I already paid for the OS. Do I have to stare at advertisements to use it now?

Adware? You make MS sound like it's on the brink of bankruptcy. These services are for free and as far as I know the only one that has any ads is Messenger.

I think you should check them out before you make dubious claims.

(Ogden2k said @ #11.2)
You do realize that the only app in Windows Live Wave 3 that has ads is Windows Live Messenger, right?

Windows Live Mail has ads as well. Please realize that.

(xiphi said @ #11.5)

Where?

That's what I'd like to know as well. The desktop client does not have ads, however web client does.

(T.W. said @ #11.3)

Windows Live Mail has ads as well. Please realize that.

It *used* to. After the beta was over I think they got rid of them.

135MB, lol.

What's so funny? The 135mb download contains WL Mail, WL Toolbar, WL Photo Gallery, WL Movie Maker, WL Writer, WL Family Safety, WL Messenger and Microsoft Office Outlook Connector.

I make that nearly 17mb per application if you divide it up equally. So I ask again, what's so funny?

(TCLN Ryster said @ #10.1)

What's so funny? The 135mb download contains WL Mail, WL Toolbar, WL Photo Gallery, WL Movie Maker, WL Writer, WL Family Safety, WL Messenger and Microsoft Office Outlook Connector.

I make that nearly 17mb per application if you divide it up equally. So I ask again, what's so funny?

You're right, I thought it was just Windows Live Messenger before I downloaded and installed. My apologies.

(TCLN Ryster said @ #10.1)
I make that nearly 17mb per application if you divide it up equally. So I ask again, what's so funny?

17mb per application.

Server 2008 x64... "The Windows Live programs you've chosen can only be installed on Windows Vista or Windows XP operating systems". Poop.

(NXTwoThou said @ #6)
Server 2008 x64... "The Windows Live programs you've chosen can only be installed on Windows Vista or Windows XP operating systems". Poop.

Compatibility mode?

Nope, tried that.

Since its not an MSI, I couldn't use the Orca trick to change its requirements.

Extracting the _all.exe just gives me the .msi for movie maker, but the only live program I use is Messenger.

(redeemed said @ #6.3)
http://blog.tiensivu.com/aaron/archives/17...erver-2008.html
See the "Update:" at the end of the post.

Or use this setup file that I've tweaked according to the blog's instructions. (it has no OS check)

But unfortunately gives a *** TBD: Installer package was not signed *** error message and won't continue. Just in case the file was corrupted, I downloaded a fresh copy and followed the instructions and got an identical error message while trying to run.

I'm trying to find out where I can turn off the signed check(I assume its in Local Security Policy somewhere)

+1...except I won't even try it until I can patch it to get rid of the garbage. Do they still have winks in WLM versions? It's been so long since I've seen one I honestly don't know if it's just the patch settings I use or if MS ditched them.

(xiphi said @ #2.1)
Why not sign up for the Connect Beta and tell them yourself?

Actually... There's no where to sign up on connect.