Windows Phone 7 may not feature copy and paste at launch

Microsoft said on Tuesday that it may not include copy and paste functionality in the initial software release of Windows Phone 7 this year.

Speaking at a Q&A session at the Microsoft MIX 2010 conference, spokespeople confirmed to Engadget that copy and paste is not included in Windows Phone 7 builds currently. Apple introduced the iPhone in 2007 without copy and paste functionality and took two long years to introduce the feature into the iPhone OS. Apple was criticised countless times from power users and regular users who had no way of copying text from one application to another. The original decision created a discussion across the Internet as users eagerly awaited the functionality to be added to iPhone OS.

The exclusion of copy and paste will likely trigger the same discussions that we witnessed for the lack of the function in iPhone OS. Microsoft also revealed this week that the Windows Phone 7 OS will not support multitasking applications. Each application will be sent a kill signal to terminate the application when a user presses the start button on the device. The lack of copy paste, file system access and multitasking is likely to anger die hard Windows Mobile fans but Microsoft has to make some tough decisions with its next mobile OS. Sandboxing applications and restricting file system access will increase the security of the device and battery performance, thus creating a better end user experience. Microsoft is betting on developers creating compelling applications and linking their data into the hubs Microsoft has built. Developers also have the opportunity to use push notifications outside of their application.

For more information on Windows Phone 7 applications, please see our applications overview.

Update: Some Windows Mobile fans are already voicing their disapproval at the lack of copy and paste by starting a Twitter hashtag of #WP7SCutPaste. Title updated as Microsoft only confirmed current builds do not include the functionality and that future builds before RTM may include copy and paste.

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What about using Copy/Paste with the office mobile apps? I actually use my moblie excel and mobile word and sometimes I need to copy and paste things to save myself a ton of time. I'm pretty sure it has been mentioned these apps will be in the new Windows Phone 7, but if you can't copy and paste it basically is just stupid.

I really don't understand what Microsoft is doing lately. They should be looking at all the dislikes of the iPhone and FIX them! Instead, Apple is fixing them and MS is releasing a 1st gen. iPhone!

If anybody got it right, it was Google... put everything that people wanted into a frequently updated OS.

It's a mad decision. WM5 and WM6 both have full Copy/Paste support, and I use it all the time. I had been wavering between waiting a bit for a WM7 device or getting an Android device for my next phone. This just confirms my recent decision to get an Android device as the right one.

For cross-application uses of copy and paste *on a phone*, refer to micro's post above. Microsoft is trying to eliminate most of our needs to use copy and paste on a phone.
For single application only copy and paste, developers can implement their own copy and paste functions if it is needed.

Anyone who says they never use multitasking or copy/paste functionality: guess what? You don't need a smartphone.

You can get by with a feature phone. You probably only use music, web browser, text/call. Yet you spent $800 on a phone? Ouch.

I use multitasking and copy/paste almost every day and obviously will not buy a WinMo 7 device without these features.

Nah, they are just mocking us. They always get their windows builds, remade from a lower build.

If they want it to be as gold as Windows 7, they ought to include every basic aspect of a phone program.

Plus, how the hell am I going to do copy and paste to the office suites?

I still believe this is mock, or is something that will be added at the end, to improve stability and functionality, and not braking any other WinPho features.

meh!
This is a deal breaker, i use copy and paste very often. Chances are they haven't figured out how to enable this since it took Apple such a long time to figure out how to enable it.

StandingInAlley said,
meh!
This is a deal breaker, i use copy and paste very often. Chances are they haven't figured out how to enable this since it took Apple such a long time to figure out how to enable it.

I'm sure "figuring out how to do it" had nothing to do with it. WinMo has had copy and paste for as long as I remember... Likely it just hasn't been completed yet. Hopefully before release...

Windows Phone 7 series is becoming more and more disapointing by the day. I was excited when it was first announced but yea, I might stick to Windows Mobile 6.1 (not into 6.5.3) or move to Android. As much as I like Windows Mobile, lack of copy and paste, multitasking and a locked down app store will make me change.

huh

- Cnet
"We don't enable copy and paste and we do that very intentionally," Windows Phone executive Todd Brix said in an interview.

Brix said many times when a user copies something on a phone, what they really are looking to do is take a specific action, such as calling a phone number or e-mailing an address. For those specific tasks, Microsoft has what it calls "smart linking," which lets a user double click on a phone number and either call it or add it to the phone book. For an address, one can get a map without having to copy and paste the address.

"It's actually an intentional design decision," he said. "We try to anticipate what the user wants so copy and paste isn't necessary."

Kirkburn said,
See, now that makes sense.

hmmm, what if the interpreter fails to understand the intent of the data. Would it be able to distinguish say a tracking number? somehow, I don't buy this argument.

Kirkburn said,
See, now that makes sense.

Except for when you really need to be able to copy and paste...

I mean, it does make a lot of sense, but it isn't a replacement for all copy and paste needs...

micro said,
huh

- Cnet
"We don't enable copy and paste and we do that very intentionally," Windows Phone executive Todd Brix said in an interview.

Brix said many times when a user copies something on a phone, what they really are looking to do is take a specific action, such as calling a phone number or e-mailing an address. For those specific tasks, Microsoft has what it calls "smart linking," which lets a user double click on a phone number and either call it or add it to the phone book. For an address, one can get a map without having to copy and paste the address.

"It's actually an intentional design decision," he said. "We try to anticipate what the user wants so copy and paste isn't necessary."

Fine. If I want to call a number from a website it serves the purpose. I can do that in my iPhone as well. What about looking for a number for your friend on the web, and sending it to them? I don't want to save the number to my contact list and then forward it / emailing it from there. Why introduce unnecessary steps? Isn't that counter-productive?

I love what I see of the WPS 7 so far. But my enthusiasm has just gone down a notch by reading about these announcements. No background processes, no copy paste, no SQL database access... C'mon M$. You can do better!

Not sure what to make of this, there has to be something behind this. Copy and and paste could have and should have been added already at this state of the development cycle. Two things

Ether A) There is more to this or B) They have their heads up their ass.

This is a bad decision on Microsoft's part. I wonder if the past mistakes made by Apple are only helping to fuel Microsoft's mistake(s) in its new mobile OS?

"Well, the iPhone didn't have C&P and people still bought it in droves. So, lets not include C&P until later, too..."

Still, C&P, or lack of, isn't the reason why I will buying a WM7 phone. Would be nice to have C&P, but until I need it, I won't miss it and at the moment I don't see a need for it. Now wait until I really need and I'll curse MS! LOL

JVF said,
This is a bad decision on Microsoft's part. I wonder if the past mistakes made by Apple are only helping to fuel Microsoft's mistake(s) in its new mobile OS?

The problem is, what you call Apple's mistakes, Apple calls $$$$. The iPhone has and is continuing to make a killing in the market. Just look at the recent Neowin poll showing 34% of Neowin users (that voted) already own an iPhone.

JVF said,
... but until I need it, I won't miss it and at the moment I don't see a need for it. Now wait until I really need and I'll curse MS! LOL

I'll be using it a lot for working with my documents in office. I do a lot of copy and paste in there. I can see tht being a big demand for that, especially with excel. You might still not have a need for it though, that depends on how you use it.

This really hurts. I was becoming a really big fan but without that, it hurts productivity. I use copy & paste all the time on the iPhone. I actually used it just now while ediing this post right here on my phone. I'll still be picking one up though, just a matter when now.

Shadrack said,

The problem is, what you call Apple's mistakes, Apple calls $$. The iPhone has and is continuing to make a killing in the market. Just look at the recent Neowin poll showing 34% of Neowin users (that voted) already own an iPhone.

Yeah, I should have placed mistake in quotes 'cause in the end, the iPhone sold and is continuing to sell well (well, more than "well"). I meant more though in the way of people complaining about (a possible) lack of C&P in WP7. I think people bought the iPhone because A) it's an Apple device, and B) it was a revolutionary device. I don't think people will line up to buy WP7 the way they did for the iPhone. By "line up", I mean those that slept in the street.

dogmai said,

I'll be using it a lot for working with my documents in office. I do a lot of copy and paste in there. I can see tht being a big demand for that, especially with excel. You might still not have a need for it though, that depends on how you use it.

This really hurts. I was becoming a really big fan but without that, it hurts productivity. I use copy & paste all the time on the iPhone. I actually used it just now while ediing this post right here on my phone. I'll still be picking one up though, just a matter when now.

Don't get me wrong I use (and love) C&P on my computer. I just don't know if I'll use it that often on my smartphone. At least not now. That might change in the up-coming months.

So... iPhone supports copy/paste.. iPhone OS 4.0 will support multitasking without need to jailbreak this summer and I just read that Novell is working on porting the XNA framework to iphone on another site before WP7 comes out. Didn't Ballmer say that WP7 would support multitasking?

crazyfish said,
So... iPhone supports copy/paste.. iPhone OS 4.0 will support multitasking without need to jailbreak this summer and I just read that Novell is working on porting the XNA framework to iphone on another site before WP7 comes out. Didn't Ballmer say that WP7 would support multitasking?

That is what CEO's do, say a bunch of stuff that is sometimes just a lot of hot air. What probably happened was they had not optimized the OS for multitasking enough and the result was a big hit on the battery life. Either that or those 1000's of developers didn't have enough time to implement a proper task manager. Or some combination of those two. Thats my guess anyway (if any of this is true).

I've heard nothing but disappointing news about WM7 for a while. This is just a me-too product, and I'm floored by all of these decisions. I think there is a good number of us out here that want a phone, a productivity device, and a toy all in one. Apparently Microsoft is following suit with Apple and this will be merely a toy for Facehookers and Twits.
I think what we all wanted was <b>a faster Windows Mobile with a better, unified UI</b>. What they have done instead is given us is an iZune. I don't want a goddamned iZune. I want a phone that I can use as a computer on the go.

hotdog963al said,
OH HO HO HO!
All the people who originally mocked the iPhone for this just got burnt.

Unless they are on Blackberry or Palm

What! What! No copy and paste!!
How can you have a phone without copy and paste!!!!!

Not a big deal to me, if they add it in, that's cool...I guess.

How can you take steps backward from what has already been done prior to and with WM6; I don't understand, I mean, iPhone never had it, but it's like Microsoft are downgrading.

TakeNothingBack said,
How can you take steps backward from what has already been done prior to and with WM6; I don't understand, I mean, iPhone never had it, but it's like Microsoft are downgrading.

Because they started from scratch...

I can see a lawsuit

Apple; "Microsoft has created a MobileOS that does not support copy/paste! We did that first! sue them!"

morphen said,
I can see a lawsuit

Apple; "Microsoft has created a MobileOS that does not support copy/paste! We did that first! sue them!"

haha!!

morphen said,
I can see a lawsuit

Apple; "Microsoft has created a MobileOS that does not support copy/paste! We did that first! sue them!"

Haha..thats a good one.

morphen said,
I can see a lawsuit

Apple; "Microsoft has created a MobileOS that does not support copy/paste! We did that first! sue them!"

+1

Classic, I love it. They better be careful, you never know with Apple lol

morphen said,
I can see a lawsuit

Apple; "Microsoft has created a MobileOS that does not support copy/paste! We did that first! sue them!"

LMAO!

morphen said,
I can see a lawsuit

Apple; "Microsoft has created a MobileOS that does not support copy/paste! We did that first! sue them!"


Rofl

Ñ….iso said,
/facepalm
it's like "see the rakes that Apple just stepped on? let's stomp hard on these too!"

Totally agree. I read the Headline and immediately thought "Didn't Apple go through all this three years ago?

Mike Chipshop said,
WTF?!?
Hello Microsoft... have you been on Mars or something?

Yeah, this seems weird/disappointing.

..In saying that, it's not the end of the world.

Edited by Owen W, Mar 16 2010, 10:43pm :

Owenw said,

Yeah, this seems weird/disappointing.

..In saying that, it's not the end of the world.

True, but it would be the end of the world if they end up releasing WM7 7.1 and it doesn't include copy and paste or one is unable to update/upgrade ones existing WM7 to the latest version.

rawr_boy81 said,
... one is unable to update/upgrade ones existing WM7 to the latest version.
If I buy a WM7 device and this happens, I would be extremely ****ed. I have set aside some of my tax refund for a new mobile this fall. I might just wait until next Spring to see how this all shakes out.

Mike Chipshop said,
WTF?!?
Hello Microsoft... have you been on Mars or something?

They must be if they didn't realize the backlash Apple suffered due to their being no copy and paste. This battle has been faught and lost by Apple. Why would MSFT think they're any different?

rawr_boy81 said,

True, but it would be the end of the world if they end up releasing WM7 7.1 and it doesn't include copy and paste or one is unable to update/upgrade ones existing WM7 to the latest version.


Yeah, but it updates OTA so I'm sure it will.

Mike Chipshop said,
WTF?!?
Hello Microsoft... have you been on Mars or something?

I agree. I hope they get this in before release...