Windows Phone 7.5 Mango update may arrive next week

Anyone with a Windows Phone knows that their handset is going to be getting even better when the Mango update for the operating system arrives. Microsoft has promised over 500 improvements to its mobile OS that will bring exciting new features and expanded functionality to just about every aspect of Windows Phone. But despite all the info it’s been sharing on all the juicy Mango goodness that’s on its way, the company has been frustratingly tight-lipped on exactly when the fruit will drop.

With the first Mango phone already on sale in Japan, and HTC’s first Windows Phone 7.5 handsets, Radar and TITAN, due to go on sale next month, the wait must surely be almost over. In fact, the guys from Windows Phone Dev Podcast believe that we may only have a few more days until Mango is officially released.

WPSauce.com picked up on a little nugget of info dropped at the end of the latest podcast, episode 33, which seems to give the game away:

Next week is going to be a BIG week for Windows Phone. We have been told by various sources that Mango will be dropping, and the final tools will be dropping for developers. So that should be interesting and something to look forward to.”

Now, this obviously just adds to the mix of speculation and rumours that have been floating around out there, but as WMPowerUser points out, the WP Dev Podcast has a proven record of reliability, including accurately predicting the release date for the Mango developer beta.

Their info also gels with some clues that WPCentral pieced together a couple of weeks back, pointing to a Mango release date of September 15. Of course, we won’t know anything for sure until Microsoft actually breaks its silence and makes an official announcement, but we live in hope that we can taste that delicious Mango pretty soon.

 

You can listen to the podcast for yourself on the WP Dev Podcast site; the above quote can be heard from 34m23s.

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The question is, will us "international users" (Meaning, people who DARE not living in the US) get the mango update for our existing Windows Phones? I have a LG Optimus 7, great phone but I'll love to have mango on it.

Yes. Mango is being made available to all Windows Phones in all markets. All Windows Phones will be eligible for upgrade to Windows Phone 7.5, just as the last three updates, including NoDo, were made available to all WP7 handsets.

We don't yet know how long that policy will last - we should assume that Microsoft will introduce some sort of 'end of life' policy whereby older handsets are not upgraded in the future (just like the earliest iPhones have not been upgraded to iOS4, for example) - but for now, the policy is that all Windows Phones are upgraded.

dagamer34 said,
I'm about to start developing a Windows Phone 7 app. Should I develop straight for Mango or vanilla WP7?

I would target Mango. Current phones will be getting Mango anyway, so it's not like you have to worry about people not being able to use your app...

dagamer34 said,
I'm about to start developing a Windows Phone 7 app. Should I develop straight for Mango or vanilla WP7?

As Mango will be available for all devices I'd say that you should develop straight for Mango. On the other hand if your app doesn't need Mango features, there's nothing lost providing an initial NoDo-version^^

Keep in mind that it may take a few months before all devices are on Mango - especially with such "premium" partners as AT&T.^^

dagamer34 said,
I'm about to start developing a Windows Phone 7 app. Should I develop straight for Mango or vanilla WP7?

Makes no sense to develop for pre-mango. Welcome on board de dev-train! :-)

tdrock said,
Also rumors is that Samsung will drop wp7 and stick with Android and Bada

Interesting. I've not heard that rumor. It would seem odd then that several Samsung WP7 phones recently passed through the FCC... Hm...

I wouldn't take the rumor too seriously because the guy that twitted had some woes with the XDA community for not releasing a ROM due to some insanity reason. Some of the people at XDA bashed him for advertising his site there, he got ****ed and left XDA.

This could be be a rebuttal to XDA community, so I wouldn't take it too seriously. Samsung android devices are being banned left and right. Bada doesn't have the devs support. So I'd take his twit with a grain of salt and wait for official respond from Samsung.

MFH said,

Read that rumor on a german site - said that Samsung will drop support in 2012.
Source: http://www.computerbase.de/new...von-windows-phone-7-planen/
Unfortunatly they don't directly quote their source, so I can't provide a link to that…

Yeah. No source sounds fishy to me... If it were true, they'd have a source. And with Android's legal woes and Bada not even getting off the ground, I really would be shocked if this were true.

M_Lyons10 said,

Yeah. No source sounds fishy to me... If it were true, they'd have a source. And with Android's legal woes and Bada not even getting off the ground, I really would be shocked if this were true.


Well their source is: "Sam Firmware" whoever that is…
BTW; Isn't Bada more widespread than WP7 due to it's use in feature phones?

There was a dubious report from SamFirmware claiming that Samsung intended to stop making Windows Phones after 2012, and that there'd be one more WP handset, and no more. WMPowerUser.com also reported on SamFirmware's tweets, suggesting that reports of the Omnia W (which we reported on here a few weeks ago in a roadmap article, but which was then officially refuted by Samsung), which claimed that that phone would have a 3.7" screen and some pretty unremarkable specs, supported the rumour that Samsung has effectively given up on WP and would instead focus exclusively on Android and boosting its Bada efforts in the future.

In my opinion, very little about that rumour makes sense - Samsung hasn't had any chance to see what effect the MotoGoog deal might have on the Android ecosystem and its relationship with Google; its Windows Phone handsets are well regarded (in spite of the firmware issues that Samsung created and dragged their feet in resolving); and most independent analysts believe that Windows Phone will take off in a big way over the next 24-36 months.

All in all, seems like a pretty odd time for Samsung to have already made the decision to abandon Windows Phone, so I'll be taking those rumours with a fistful of salt for now...

gcaw said,
There was a dubious report from SamFirmware claiming that Samsung intended to stop making Windows Phones after 2012, and that there'd be one more WP handset, and no more. WMPowerUser.com also reported on SamFirmware's tweets, suggesting that reports of the Omnia W (which we reported on here a few weeks ago in a roadmap article, but which was then officially refuted by Samsung), which claimed that that phone would have a 3.7" screen and some pretty unremarkable specs, supported the rumour that Samsung has effectively given up on WP and would instead focus exclusively on Android and boosting its Bada efforts in the future.

In my opinion, very little about that rumour makes sense - Samsung hasn't had any chance to see what effect the MotoGoog deal might have on the Android ecosystem and its relationship with Google; its Windows Phone handsets are well regarded (in spite of the firmware issues that Samsung created and dragged their feet in resolving); and most independent analysts believe that Windows Phone will take off in a big way over the next 24-36 months.

All in all, seems like a pretty odd time for Samsung to have already made the decision to abandon Windows Phone, so I'll be taking those rumours with a fistful of salt for now...

+1

MFH said,

BTW; Isn't Bada more widespread than WP7 due to it's use in feature phones?

Yes Bada is more popular than WP7.
I have no idea if the rumor is true or not but make no mistakes: at this point OEM will make their decisions based on what post-Mango/W8 scenarios will be.
Mango could be the latest thing for us, not for OEM.
Personally I have big hopes for W8 but who knows? I had big hopes for WP7 but, unfortunately, they did not last long.

tdrock said,
Also rumors is that Samsung will drop wp7 and stick with Android and Bada

I doubt it seeing as Samsung are releasing 2 new WP7 devices, Focus S and Focus Flash, on AT&T.

(sigh) I really want to believe this, but since there are so many factors involved in this update (Microsoft, OEMS, carriers, several devices, etc.) I don't think it's coming next week

daniel_rh said,
(sigh) I really want to believe this, but since there are so many factors involved in this update (Microsoft, OEMS, carriers, several devices, etc.) I don't think it's coming next week

Well, I'm hoping Microsoft got all that squared away prior to next week.

Indeed, what's most likely is that we'll see an announcement next week, with deployment for SIM-free devices pushed out from MS servers shortly after that; but the carrier approval process will almost certainly hold things up for those who purchased their WP7 handsets from a network operator, just as it did with NoDo.

daniel_rh said,
(sigh) I really want to believe this, but since there are so many factors involved in this update (Microsoft, OEMS, carriers, several devices, etc.) I don't think it's coming next week
yeah, people you should have learned a lesson from the nodo update

gcaw said,
Indeed, what's most likely is that we'll see an announcement next week, with deployment for SIM-free devices pushed out from MS servers shortly after that; but the carrier approval process will almost certainly hold things up for those who purchased their WP7 handsets from a network operator, just as it did with NoDo.
yeah, people you should have learned a lesson from the nodo update

TechDudeGeorge said,

The people who want the official update. Official as in straight from MS not compiled by others.

Actually the Mango which is on devices now is straight from MS and the official update got checked by manufacturers and carriers.

TechDudeGeorge said,

The people who want the official update. Official as in straight from MS not compiled by others.

Indeed. I prefer non bricked phones... Not worth the risk.

TechDudeGeorge said,

The people who want the official update. Official as in straight from MS not compiled by others.

Lol, it is from Microsoft. You update via Zune from the Microsoft servers. All you do is upload a cab file to the phone which makes a device a developers phone and the Zune client does the rest. After the upgrade, the cab can be removed to restore it to a normal setup (if you wanted to that is as it being a developers phone doesn't make it any difference).

TechDudeGeorge said,

The people who want the official update. Official as in straight from MS not compiled by others.

...I think you should do some research before talking...I had the Mango update on my phone, it was straight from Microsoft. That's exactly why it didn't include some features like hidden WiFi because those features require certain drivers from OEMs and carriers for your specific device.

But my phone's proximity sensor broke, so I had to flash back build 7004 and update all the way to NoDo build 7390 and do a reset. The Samsung Focus replacement I got has 7390, but I'm just going to wait for at&t to release Mango since the wait won't be much longer.

TechDudeGeorge said,

The people who want the official update. Official as in straight from MS not compiled by others.

Why are you talking as if you know something on the subject?

You cannot install non-Microsoft updates on WP7 devices. Updates must be signed by Microsoft to be accepted by the phone.

Please research the subject before posting.

RealFduch said,

Why are you talking as if you know something on the subject?

You cannot install non-Microsoft updates on WP7 devices. Updates must be signed by Microsoft to be accepted by the phone.

Please research the subject before posting.


Actually DFT have got round that now.

TechDudeGeorge said,
Very likely. Getting announced at BUILD and released that day or a few days after.

I hope so. I want me some Mango...