Windows Phone 7.8 (build 7.10.8860.142) rolling out now

 If you own a Windows Phone 7 device, Microsoft is now rolling out a new build of Windows Phone. The new build string is 7.10.8860.142 and is being pushed to devices as we speak. 

If you have an older Windows phone 7 device and have been waiting for the new update since Microsoft stopped rolling it out, it looks like this new update fixes some of the woes of the previous update.

While the update arrived later than most expected, considering the 7.8 update was first announced in June, for those who have been waiting, it looks like your time has finally arrived.

Thanks for the tip Rahul!

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I'm actually considering NOT updating my phone.

The way I see it, 7.8 is little more than free advertising for Phone8. For me, three "features" (new start screen, more colors, bing images on lockscreen) don't make up for the kick in the gut Microsoft gave us Lumia 900 users -- stuck in a contract for another year while new app after new app comes out exclusively for Windows Phone 8.

I remember reading one of the developer blogs (or some other post actually from a MS employee) admitting that they COULD have implemented the 8.0 features that were not hardware specific, but that it was deemed (presumably by the bean counters) to be non-cost-effective. It seems upgrading to 7.8 would just remind me everyday what my phone should be able to do but that it can't.

I guess I'll be waiting for a custom rom...

Forjo said,
I'm actually considering NOT updating my phone.

The way I see it, 7.8 is little more than free advertising for Phone8. For me, three "features" (new start screen, more colors, bing images on lockscreen) don't make up for the kick in the gut Microsoft gave us Lumia 900 users -- stuck in a contract for another year while new app after new app comes out exclusively for Windows Phone 8.

I remember reading one of the developer blogs (or some other post actually from a MS employee) admitting that they COULD have implemented the 8.0 features that were not hardware specific, but that it was deemed (presumably by the bean counters) to be non-cost-effective. It seems upgrading to 7.8 would just remind me everyday what my phone should be able to do but that it can't.

I guess I'll be waiting for a custom rom...

Hey man you can't always have the latest! Be grateful you are still being supported! If you were on Android you would be on the same version until your handset manufacturer updated you which in most cases in never.

ingramator said,

Hey man you can't always have the latest! Be grateful you are still being supported! If you were on Android you would be on the same version until your handset manufacturer updated you which in most cases in never.

As a Windows Phone user, I am seriously considering my next phone to be an Android at least I would be able to find as much custom ROMS as possible for it, such as the Cyanogenmod.

I like Android and I love CM10/10.1. Android has improved greatly with ICS and Jellybean. However, I'm still of the opinion that Android is better suited for tablets. Maybe because I thought it pretty much sucked until Honeycomb, and that started as a tablet-only OS if I recall. Android is really the only viable alternative to WP and iOS, though, and I'd never use an iAnything, so if I ever do switch from WP it'll definitely be Android. Unless Ubuntu or Firefox OS turns out to be even more awesome than Android.

Darrian said,
[...] Unless Ubuntu or Firefox OS turns out to be even more awesome than Android.

Not sure about FireFox OS but Ubuntu has shown some hybrid Ubuntu/Android functionality in the past which I am curious about.

Ok it looks like there's 2 updates. The 1st is 8860 which deals with the Quartz Framework and Synching Google Accounts.

8862 looks to be the live tile update.

Well MS is really ramping up the changes as ANOTHER new update has come through now 7.10.8860.142!!
This came out a few minutes ago (a few hours after the first update today)

Force-installed this build on my Lumia 900 from AT&T, not much seems different. However, I'm noticing on the Windows Phone 7 update history page that there's a reference to Version 7.10.8862.144... From the little bit I've read, the 8862 update is supposed to fix the live tile issues. The 8860 update appears to just update the quartz framework and includes some provisioning settings for syncing with Google accounts.

Must be the case. Seeing some ppl complain 8860 doesn't fix the live tile issue. Of course I have the Verizon Trophy so I wouldn't know. LOL

I had the original upgrade to 7.8 already on my LG Optimus 7 (Telus) and got the updates (there were two of them) to 7.10.8862.144 early this morning.

OK just getting back to the content of the story, I have had Windows Phone 7.8 on my Lumia 800 for a month or so now (basically ever since you could force the update) and have had no issues (tiles or otherwise).

So does anyone know what this update actually contains (phone is updating as I type)?

TechJunkie81 said,
Verizon had been pretty good with sending out updates to the Trophy but I have a suspicion that the Trophy has been kicked to the curb by them.

I hope not. I had assumed that the update had been delayed while Microsoft worked on this fix. At least I hope that's the case... LOL

Maybe they've changed their minds, but it was my understanding that Verizon had no intention of pushing 7.8. The good news is that you can use seveneighter to update your Trophy; I did mine and have had no issues yet. I haven't tried to see if I can update to this newer build that just came out yet, but even if I can't the old build (7.10.8858.136) hasn't caused me any trouble.

Lumia 710 with no carrier lock but still waiting for 7.8 - seem to be stuck on 7.5. i would have thought being carrier free I would be first but seems not.

Just installed on Lumia 800, so far live tiles are still not working. Going to give it some time before trying another hard reset

Actually my AccuWeather tile stopped working altogether while it was working just fine before the update... Wth?!?!

Obry said,
Actually my AccuWeather tile stopped working altogether while it was working just fine before the update... Wth?!?!

You have to run the app at least once every 2 weeks, or the tile will automatically stop updating. Background tasks expire.

Updates Bing maps to use their new 'Top of the World' and new high resolution imagery they just rolled out to Windows 8 and Bing Maps last month.

Looks WAY WAY WAY better now.

Hmm... Mine's a little different:
Samsung Focus Rev 1.3, in Zune, says:
"Your phone is up to date. Current phone software version: 7.10 (7720)"

Just found SevenEighter love. It's restarted like 6 times so far doing each update since the one I had, but each time it reboots I can see a new different piece(like the new blue start-up splash page). Can't wait till it finishes.

Last I heard TMobile was giving the 710 users the shaft on updates.. my wife uses one of their 710's, used a custom build from XDA to get hers up to 7.8 (with some nice bells and whistles not available in stock ROM), and most likely this latest one shortly.

Nice to hear, don't have any 7 devices anymore but it's nice to see MS still providing updates to the OS unlike google that abandons previous versions.

pgn said,
Nice to hear, don't have any 7 devices anymore but it's nice to see MS still providing updates to the OS unlike google that abandons previous versions.

Once again you are WRONG . Seriously dude, Google provides the OS and the carriers/manufactures of the devices are the ones who supply the updates. Google has been very good about updating their Nexus lines and the only hardware Android phones they had a hand in is the Nexus line.

If you were not so hell bent on bashing everything Android and actually read and understand whats gong on, you would know this.

So, in case you didnt read and or still do not understand, Samsung, HTC, LG....they are responsible for updating the OS on the phones they produce. And if they do not update a phone, THEY are to blame...NOT Google.

And it must be nice for the people who bought a 7 device and shortly there after find out about 8 and that they will not be upgraded. Then MS releases a 7.8 update that gives some of the features of 8, but not all. But hey, I guess this is what you call continued updates from MS no matter how half assed they are.

techbeck said,

Once again you are WRONG . Seriously dude, Google provides the OS and the carriers/manufactures of the devices are the ones who supply the updates. Google has been very good about updating their Nexus lines and the only hardware Android phones they had a hand in is the Nexus line.


While you're right to a certain extent, pgn is more correct because at least Microsoft sends updates to ALL the devices, not just one brand. That would be like Microsoft only delivering updates to one brand phone and leaving the rest hanging. The only roadblock for WP updates are the carriers, which is no where as big as a problem as it is with Android.

j2006 said,

While you're right to a certain extent, pgn is more correct because at least Microsoft sends updates to ALL the devices, not just one brand. That would be like Microsoft only delivering updates to one brand phone and leaving the rest hanging. The only roadblock for WP updates are the carriers, which is no where as big as a problem as it is with Android.

Actually WP updates are handled by OEMs not MS directly, and I add unfortunately.
The day MS will launch a Surface smartphone, updated through Windows Update and without OEMs and carriers involvement you will see WP market share skyrocket up.

j2006 said,

While you're right to a certain extent, pgn is more correct because at least Microsoft sends updates to ALL the devices, not just one brand. That would be like Microsoft only delivering updates to one brand phone and leaving the rest hanging. The only roadblock for WP updates are the carriers, which is no where as big as a problem as it is with Android.

No, he is 100 percent wrong with his statement saying that Google abandons previous versions, which they do not and have been supporting the Nexus line very well. If he would of said that most Android are left behind and carriers/manufactuers abandon previous versions, then it wouldnt be an issue. Instead he lumped all of Android under Google. Which isnt surprising considering his outright hate for the platform.

Fritzly said,

Actually WP updates are handled by OEMs not MS directly, and I add unfortunately.
The day MS will launch a Surface smartphone, updated through Windows Update and without OEMs and carriers involvement you will see WP market share skyrocket up.

That is factually incorrect.

M_Lyons10 said,

That is factually incorrect.

Mind to elaborate?
My Lumia 920 is a "pure" Nokia device meaning firmware is not polluted by any carrier; still I received Portico when Nokia released it, not when MS released it.

Fritzly said,

Mind to elaborate?
My Lumia 920 is a "pure" Nokia device meaning firmware is not polluted by any carrier; still I received Portico when Nokia released it, not when MS released it.


Updates are released on a per device basis as they may need additional firmware updates as well. It is not OEM's delaying updates, it is OEM's working alongside Microsoft to prepare updates and rolling them out when ready...

M_Lyons10 said,

Updates are released on a per device basis as they may need additional firmware updates as well. It is not OEM's delaying updates, it is OEM's working alongside Microsoft to prepare updates and rolling them out when ready...

You may want to check the original post I replied to: MS does not release updates to user devices ergo WP users depends,on OEMs, and the unlucky ones to carriers as well, to receive them while the original post I replied to stated:
"The only roadblock for WP updates are the carriers, which is no where as big as a problem as it is with Android"
Regardless of what OEMs may need to add or not it is up to them to release whatever .S makes available, again unfortunately.
My Tablet, as well as my desktops do not depend on OEMs to receive updates, they are pushed directly by MS.

Snoopy2005uk said,
My radar is still up to date with 7.10 (8773) Could it be orange holding it back?

If live gives you oranges either use the wp7 cab sender or the seven-heighter specific tool.

F_C said,
Still not got anything yet either on my Mozart7, still saying that 7.10.7740 is the latest

Have you tried force updating it?

Just started updating as well. Lumia 800 on AT&T... Wonder what's in this? Probably fix for the Live Tiles issue they had recently...