Windows Phone 8: Public Beta program, install apps from SD and more

At Tech Ed in New Zealand, Keith Patton, Windows Phone MVP confirmed a number of new features coming to Windows Phone 8 when it is released to the public later this year. 

Beta Program

It was confirmed that a beta program will run alongside future Windows Phone 8 releases for developers and those who wish to get the new bits earlier, and will allow those users to circumvent their carriers to get the latest version while it's in testing.

Install applications from SD card

It's not entirely clear, but slides showed that applications will be able to be installed from the MicroSD card. We presume this is going to be through copying them to the SD card from the PC then manually installing it on the handset, but details weren't clear on that yet. It was also confirmed that businesses can use this method to load their line of business applications onto employees phones.

We'll have more coverage on Windows Phone 8 later today.

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Wow, a lot of 'hate' for a Phone and OS technology that is actually impressive stuff.

Anyone else find the Unreal engine running on a Tablet that is in the same performance class as Windows Phone 8, a bit interesting?

http://www.wpcentral.com/demon...let-running-unreal-3-engine

Also note, as mentioned in the video, this is the full engine, not a 'mobile' version like Android and iOS resort to using because of the gap in OS technology between them and NT paired with DirectX.

So, with the official Phone chipset being the S4, which is on par with the Tegra 3 in GPU performance, it is reasonable that Windows Phone 8 is going to be running some impressive games and Apps...

apple only has 1 line of phones to support whereas MS will have a plethroa of devices to support so it makes sense to give 18 months of real support than the lets make them think they have the latest and greatest update but really we havnt even bothered to check if it works or not. 18 months is a good figure as 18-24 months most ppl will be upgrading to a new phone anyway and those that dont are prolly the ppl that dont really give a crap. Just us tech heads that moan about it

18 Months? Are they kidding? iOS6 will support 3GS after 3.5 years since the release date, 3.5 years = 42 months.

lexp said,
18 Months? Are they kidding? iOS6 will support 3GS after 3.5 years since the release date, 3.5 years = 42 months.

Oh please. I'd rather have 18 months of real support were the updates are really geared towards your phone and tested on it, than 42 months where they force your phone towards obsolescence ! Everytime you install an update on a 3GS it gets slower and more of a pain to use.

lexp said,
18 Months? Are they kidding? iOS6 will support 3GS after 3.5 years since the release date, 3.5 years = 42 months.

Ironically, Apple supports their iPhone longer than several of their Macs.


If you really want to 'complain' about this, stop and realize that Windows 8 runs 'well' on computers that were being sold in 2001.

You also are not 'getting' what Microsoft terminology of 'updates/support' means. 18 months for updates, which is Version updates, and support lasting a bit longer than that.

lexp said,
18 Months? Are they kidding? iOS6 will support 3GS after 3.5 years since the release date, 3.5 years = 42 months.

Also note that it's a guaranteed MINIMUM of 18 months support. They may choose to give more. Apple doesn't give any minimum. They could stop support the week after you get a phone (it wouldn't make sense for them to but they could :-) ).

I may be proven to be naive in the future but I would expect from Microsoft's definition of support to mean that I get all the features not tied to specific hardware, unlike Apple, who claim that features only work on new hardware and then people flick a switch in the software on older models and prove that it runs fine.

supported for 18 months? A DUAL CORE PHONE? Sorry Ill pass, go with a company with ethics like mozilla or canonical.

zikalify said,
supported for 18 months? A DUAL CORE PHONE? Sorry Ill pass, go with a company with ethics like mozilla or canonical.

Mozilla has ethics?
And tell me now, considering WP7.5 Lumia 900 rivals a S3 in consumer seen performance... with less then 1/4th of the power behind it.
Then how would a dualcore version of this model, with more ram and a much, much better kernel technology hold up vs de S3 or any other android or even ios phone?

zikalify said,
supported for 18 months? A DUAL CORE PHONE? Sorry Ill pass, go with a company with ethics like mozilla or canonical.

If only there was an independent organisation that rated the ethics of companies worldwide, and compiled annual lists of high achievers...... oh wait. There is!

http://ethisphere.com/wme/

oddly, I don't see Mozilla or Canonical in there at all. How odd. ;-)

zikalify said,
supported for 18 months? A DUAL CORE PHONE? Sorry Ill pass, go with a company with ethics like mozilla or canonical.

Mozilla and ethics in the same sentence. LOL - I spit my coffee.

Installing apps from SD? Welcome to 2007, Microsoft. Good to see they're finally learning that there can be some compromise between a complete walled garden and a completely open one though.

Javik said,
Installing apps from SD? Welcome to 2007

The Nokia Ngage did this in 2003, long before any app stores were around. I'm sure phones released earlier than that did too. I never had a smart phone before the Ngage so cant think of any.

Nice to see Windows Mobile gradually gaining features though.

InsaneNutter said,

Nice to see Windows Mobile gradually gaining features though.

Windows Mobile has had this feature for YEARS.

Javik said,
Installing apps from SD? Welcome to 2007, Microsoft. Good to see they're finally learning that there can be some compromise between a complete walled garden and a completely open one though.

Ya, cause it isn't like Microsoft had a smartphone in 2002 that you could load Applications from external media...

Oh, wait, they did.

Several years before Apple's iPhone and when Google was still thought of as a number or sounds a baby made.

The WinCE kernel does not have the security features that NT's kernel offers, and providing this functionality on WP7 would have precluded it from being offered for sale by MOST carriers around the world.

(Fact checking is fun.)

~Johnny said,

Windows Mobile has had this feature for YEARS.

Windows PHONE then, my mistake. I think it was obvious what i was trying to say however.

thenetavenger said,


The WinCE kernel does not have the security features that NT's kernel offers, and providing this functionality on WP7 would have precluded it from being offered for sale by MOST carriers around the world.

(Fact checking is fun.)

Right, because carriers were not offering WM devices which had this ability...... and also gained more than 40% of market share.

Fact checking is fun indeed.......

Drewidian said,
This would be great... if the 920 had a removable MicroSD card.

So get a phone with an SD slot. Problem solved.

efjay said,

So get a phone with an SD slot. Problem solved.

That is what I will do and Nokia will loose a customer........
People posts are a very good indicator of their cleverness....

I wonder if the apps from SD will still need to be signed or if they will allow non-market apps to be installed.