Windows Phone update being rolled out, addresses several issues

It looks like Microsoft is pushing a new, but minor, update to its Windows Phone operating system in some European countries. WPCentral.com reports that folks in Italy have the new update, OS build 8107, for their LG Optimus 7 devices. The update comes with a list of what's changed and new in this update.

As one might expect, this new version is basically a patch to fix a number of bugs and issues. One of the bug fixes supposedly deals with the "disappearing touch screen keyboard" problem that has been reported on smartphones with Windows Phone 7.5 installed. It also deals with a problem with syncing a user's Gmail client.

There's also an email fix for users of Microsoft Exchange Server 2003 in this new update along with a fix related to a notification of voicemail. The new build also pulls the certificates issued by DigiCert Sdn Bhd "to solve a problem of encryption". Finally the new update deals with a location problem with WiFI access points and antennas.

There's no word as to when Microsoft plans to release this new version of Windows Phone 7.5 out to other wireless carriers, including any of the phones here in the US.

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dbphillips said,
I have the same issue with an HTC Titan using Facebook App

Yeah, I have it too on my Surround, it's a bit annoying

dbphillips said,
I have the same issue with an HTC Titan using Facebook App

This is a bug in the Facebook App, contact Facebook and Microsoft to make the aware of the problem. (Post it in the review-feedback for the App)

WP7 at least gives rather robust Facebook functionality without the App itself, with only a few very specific features in the Facebook App that are not already integrated into WP7's messaging and People Hub.

I personally just use the built in features of WP7 and then for more advanced Facebook functions, I use the Facebook Mobile or Desktop website from the phone, as it provides full functionality beyond the Facebook App.
*With this strategy, you can avoid the Facebook App alltogether, and just use WP7 for everything, and Pin a Facebook Bookmark Tile to your phone. Much easier and avoids the goofy Facebook App that is a carry over from the iPhone days of how people needed such Apps, that are no longer needed but provided for people that 'expect' them.

Regardless if you love or love to hate Windows Phone, you can't help but applaud Microsoft for addressing issues promptly.

what said,
It hasn't been much of an issue for me, but I think 5 months to fix a disappearing keyboard is kinda slow.

Except it's been only 3 whole months, and we already know how carriers like to slow down releases

what said,
It hasn't been much of an issue for me, but I think 5 months to fix a disappearing keyboard is kinda slow.

I think we need to appreciate that there's a *slight* difference between rolling out an update like this and one for Windows... I want this fix too, but consider this reasonable...

M_Lyons10 said,

I think we need to appreciate that there's a *slight* difference between rolling out an update like this and one for Windows... I want this fix too, but consider this reasonable...

Rolling an update for 1 Billion users with 1 Billions configurations on the same day/hour worldwide is much harder than rolling a fix to some 5 Million WP7 users all with the same hardware and software (no 3rd party apps out of WP7's store). A process that takes Microsoft 3 month to reach all users.

alexalex said,

Rolling an update for 1 Billion users with 1 Billions configurations on the same day/hour worldwide is much harder than rolling a fix to some 5 Million WP7 users all with the same hardware and software (no 3rd party apps out of WP7's store). A process that takes Microsoft 3 month to reach all users.


And they have to deal with carrier and OEM approval for Windows updates too, or just for phone? Seems like a sizable complication to me...

alexalex said,

Rolling an update for 1 Billion users with 1 Billions configurations on the same day/hour worldwide is much harder than rolling a fix to some 5 Million WP7 users all with the same hardware and software (no 3rd party apps out of WP7's store). A process that takes Microsoft 3 month to reach all users.

Except that update goes from the servers at MS directly to your PC. This update goes from MS to Carriers to You.

laserfloyd said,
Except that update goes from the servers at MS directly to your PC. This update goes from MS to Carriers to You.

Not quite.
Windows updates (pc) go from MS servers to their content delivery network, powered in part by akamai to your PC.
WP7 updates go from MS servers to their content delivery network, to your zune to be installed on the phone. The only difference is that your carrier has to sign off that they tested the update in order for your carrier branded device to find it.

XDA have posted instructions on how to force this update.

brent3000 said,
Finally It took awhile but this bug was really starting to get to me recently Hopefully the update gets here this month
Same here. I hope I get this fix soon... Lol. I'd also love a fix for the numpad's unresponsiveness...

I've also noticed a bug on my LG Quantum in the facebook app where if I scroll down quickly, it gets to a point where it seems to suddenly jump or skip. I don't know if its Mango or Facebook doing it. Anyone else have this problem?

Invizibleyez said,
I've also noticed a bug on my LG Quantum in the facebook app where if I scroll down quickly, it gets to a point where it seems to suddenly jump or skip. I don't know if its Mango or Facebook doing it. Anyone else have this problem?

Thats just a buggy app not an issue with the phone it self... Sadly MS cant get their contractors to fix an am being used by millions of people per month

brent3000 said,

Thats just a buggy app not an issue with the phone it self... Sadly MS cant get their contractors to fix an am being used by millions of people per month

Just for thehell of it, I can give you the super simple fix for that issue too. Just add "this.Focus()" to the ListBox's gotFocus event, and that stupid jittery scrolling stops. It's actually a small bug with the scrolling logic in the framework, but that little gem works around it. Unfortunately, very few people know about it.

~Johnny said,

Just for thehell of it, I can give you the super simple fix for that issue too. Just add "this.Focus()" to the ListBox's gotFocus event, and that stupid jittery scrolling stops. It's actually a small bug with the scrolling logic in the framework, but that little gem works around it. Unfortunately, very few people know about it.

Ok.... I have no clue what you are telling me to do there. I don't know where to add that. Can you be more specific?

Invizibleyez said,
Ok.... I have no clue what you are telling me to do there. I don't know where to add that. Can you be more specific?

Oh no sorry, you can't add that, that's the code the developers need to add to fix the issue... but for some reason they're in no hurry to fix it

Invizibleyez said,
Ok.... I have no clue what you are telling me to do there. I don't know where to add that. Can you be more specific?

Johnny's tip is for developers, not end users.

brent3000 said,

Thats just a buggy app not an issue with the phone it self... Sadly MS cant get their contractors to fix an am being used by millions of people per month

facebook on every platform is crap, not just wp7

WP7 said,

facebook on every platform is crap, not just wp7

The experience is pretty great on an iPhone 4 to be fair. Certainly compared to the Facebook app on WP7

~Johnny said,

The experience is pretty great on an iPhone 4 to be fair. Certainly compared to the Facebook app on WP7

You don't NEED an app for Facebook on WP7 though, it's integrated into the OS.

neo158 said,

You don't NEED an app for Facebook on WP7 though, it's integrated into the OS.

There are plenty of scenario's where the app is needed, like groups, offline messaging, requests, notes, updates checking in with multiple people, browsing facebook profiles (if you've filtered out your people hub), seeing your full news feed, etc etc.

~Johnny said,

There are plenty of scenario's where the app is needed, like groups, offline messaging, requests, notes, updates checking in with multiple people, browsing facebook profiles (if you've filtered out your people hub), seeing your full news feed, etc etc.

Not really, groups can be done through the people hub, offline messaging can be done through the messaging hub, updates can be done through the me tile or the people hub, checking in can be done through the me tile and so can veiwing your news feed.

For all the other stuff that's why the app is there, you don't NEED it but it's there if you want it.

neo158 said,

Not really,


Group check ins?
As said Messages (When its disabled on the phone messaging hub)
Wall updates (I have had times when the wall for the contact is not up-to-date with the listing in the people hub)
Dont get me wrong, i only use the app now for Checkins etc and some here and there feeds... The number 1 thing i use is posting checkins and Checkins with photos (which as well cant be done via the Me tile)

Edited by brent3000, Jan 5 2012, 2:45am :

~Johnny said,

Just for thehell of it, I can give you the super simple fix for that issue too. Just add "this.Focus()" to the ListBox's gotFocus event, and that stupid jittery scrolling stops. It's actually a small bug with the scrolling logic in the framework, but that little gem works around it. Unfortunately, very few people know about it.


Oh wow thanks for this ill just.. Oh wait... -_-

The issue is for some reason or another is Clarity Consulting (The company MS contracted to make the FB app, THATS RIGHT MS contracted another company to write a WP7 app) cant be assed to pushed out updates frequently

Im still waiting for a list of features and fix's but the company only seem to do something when MS push them like Mango... But there is still ALOT of features missing for the app that they just dont seem to take into consideration...

neo158 said,

Not really, groups can be done through the people hub, offline messaging can be done through the messaging hub, updates can be done through the me tile or the people hub, checking in can be done through the me tile and so can veiwing your news feed.

For all the other stuff that's why the app is there, you don't NEED it but it's there if you want it.

People hub can't access or view Facebook groups, people hub can't do offline Facebook messaging (i.e, a standard private message over Facebook), it certainly can't view updates (which are part of messaging), checking in through the tile doesn't let you tag multiple people, and the people hub only shows a section of your news feed filtered depending on your settings.

Although, the touch.facebook.com site is practically better than our crappy app anyway.

~Johnny said,

People hub can't access or view Facebook groups, people hub can't do offline Facebook messaging (i.e, a standard private message over Facebook), it certainly can't view updates (which are part of messaging), checking in through the tile doesn't let you tag multiple people, and the people hub only shows a section of your news feed filtered depending on your settings.

Although, the touch.facebook.com site is practically better than our crappy app anyway.


You are 100% right. I love my Lumia but it is depressing they cannot update FB official app in timely maneer. It is not a rocket science to integrate FB groups into people hub ffs

Maciej Kuczara said,

You are 100% right. I love my Lumia but it is depressing they cannot update FB official app in timely maneer. It is not a rocket science to integrate FB groups into people hub ffs

The Facebook app, as mentioned above, is created by a third party not Microsoft.

What are the four things most people do on Facebook?

Check ins, posting updates, posting tagged photos and chatting using Facebook Messenger.

Windows Phone does those things out of the box so the app isn't REQUIRED but it's there if you want the extra functions that Facebook provides.

neo158 said,
the app isn't REQUIRED but it's there if you want the extra functions that Facebook provides.

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Shadowzz said,
no sms bugfix?

Nah, this is too close to that being found. This fix would have already been in its final testing phase when MS identified the root cause of the SMS bug

Sraf said,
Nah, this is too close to that being found. This fix would have already been in its final testing phase when MS identified the root cause of the SMS bug

Trolling much?

Anthonyd said,

Trolling much?

What the hell? Take a chill pill, or rather a wake up pill.

Honestly if you think that's trolling you clearly haven't seen some people here on Neowin.

Shadowzz said,
no sms bugfix?

OS 7.10.8107.79 fix list:
01. Fixed the Location bug where it shares your information without your knowledge in certain core apps.
02. SMS & Contacts "bug" fixed
03. TCP IP stack updates
04. Updated the Carrier data configuration database
05. Updated the Internet Sharing Security Policy
06. Updated the Updater Service
07. Updated Radio Interface Layer, SMS & SIM drivers
08. Updates to the Default Zune Tuner configuration
09. Updates to the MSHTML parser for IE9
10. Updates to the Maps & Search functions
11. Updates to UI framework driving the phone (Splash or UIX as some call it)
12. Updates to Zune & the Pictures Hub

Sraf said,
Nah, this is too close to that being found. This fix would have already been in its final testing phase when MS identified the root cause of the SMS bug

Considering they patched the rest of the .net frameworks in under a month from the exploit becoming public, I think they had a pretty good idea of the surface area around the issue, and throwing that in was easy cheesy.