Windows RT 8.1 Preview spotted at BUILD 2013

At Microsoft's BUILD 2013 conference in San Francisco, a Surface RT has been spotted running Windows RT 8.1 Preview (build 9431) at the device showcase. As you would expect, a number of the features of the Preview were on display, including the return of the Start button, the new tile sizes and the improved settings menu. It's nothing too exciting, but a little something to satisfy our Windows 8.1 cravings before the Preview is publicly available.

A Windows RT 8.1 Preview should be available shortly, along with the standard Windows 8.1 Preview, as BUILD 2013 gets underway. We'll be at the conference to deliver all the news on Windows 8.1 and everything else that's shown off at the event, so be sure to check back tomorrow when the event begins with the opening keynote.

Source: WinFuture | Thanks for the tip, ians18!

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If i use the 8.1 iso, can i use my own Windows 8 pro key? And how does that work with the Store? Anyone know

Usually a Preview version will use it's own key. This software will expire in January I think so the key used to activate will reflect that.

I'm just hoping the "jailbreak" will continue to work in RT 8.1. Either that or relax the executable signing restrictions. Or even better, keep it as it was in 8.0 but allow it to be changed by the end user if desired.

Konstantine said,

Doing it wrong. michael1989 did it right. Don't post unless you're answering my question.

Edit: and no, the link doesn't answer my question. I found the site myself yesterday.

Don't be so rude. The webpage I linked to is the official webpage of the event, it lists the start time WHICH YOU ASKED FOR and a breakdown of what starts when on each day.

I won't bother helping rude people like you in future.

kayzee said,
He asked for UK times... the link provided shows US times...

I gave him the source, all he had to do was +8 for UK time. It really isn't rocket science and doesn't warrant rudeness.

i like that they are trying to make the start screen more friendly by adding more sizes of tiles however, for the most part I generally only see the start screen for half a second as i hit the windows key and type a few letters and then its gone again. (running on a laptop not a tablet) so for me Live tiles are wasted. Even on my Windows Phone I do not have many tiles and the ones i do have mostly are not live tiles.

about icon on start tiles:
its only white color on solid non-white tiles.
why the 1bit icons?
Did you know that in late '80s Windows 3.x can display 4-bits(16 colored) icons?
Come on MS, you can do better than regressing.

1 bit would be monochrome (black and white only)... The tile (not icon, tile) could be set to any colour in the spectrum.

Come on you can do better by thinking.

trip21 said,
1 bit would be monochrome (black and white only)... The tile (not icon, tile) could be set to any colour in the spectrum.

Come on you can do better by thinking.


From Wikipedia:

"For an image, the term monochrome is usually taken to mean the same as black and white or, more likely, grayscale, but may also be used to refer to other combinations containing only tones of a single color, such as green-and-white or green-and-black."

So yes, the ****ing tiles are 1bit. As for being able to set them to any color in the spectrum -- WRONG. You can set them to one of about 24 colors that MS allows you to -- that is in 8.1, in 8.0 it is about 16 colors....

Torolol said,
about icon on start tiles:
its only white color on solid non-white tiles.
why the 1bit icons?
Did you know that in late '80s Windows 3.x can display 4-bits(16 colored) icons?
Come on MS, you can do better than regressing.

They're designed to mimic two color signs we see in real life. But never mind that when you can troll.

Dot Matrix said,

They're designed to mimic two color signs we see in real life. But never mind that when you can troll.

Please see definition two here: http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=trolling

I can see your understanding of trolling is as good as your understanding of good GUI design. You may love running your mouse all over the screen to see what lights up to indicate that you can click on it. Me? I personally like having a ****ing button look 3D so that I *KNOW* it is a ****ing button. This flat 2D crap is bull****.

runningnak3d said,

Please see definition two here: http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=trolling

I can see your understanding of trolling is as good as your understanding of good GUI design. You may love running your mouse all over the screen to see what lights up to indicate that you can click on it. Me? I personally like having a ****ing button look 3D so that I *KNOW* it is a ****ing button. This flat 2D crap is bull****.

2D is a better design guideline for digital devices. Look to iOS for what happens when 3D design runs wild. 2D keeps the screen clean, and sharp. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to recognize a button.

Also, to your comment above, Windows 8.1 includes a spectrum picker, you'll be able to pick any color under the rainbow for your Start Screen.

runningnak3d said,

I personally like having a ****ing button look 3D so that I *KNOW* it is a ****ing button. This flat 2D crap is bull****.

Life is gonna be hard for you over the next few years since Microsoft, Google, and now Apple all seem to disagree with you...

JonathanMarston said,

Life is gonna be hard for you over the next few years since Microsoft, Google, and now Apple all seem to disagree with you...

So far neither Google, nor Apple have gone full moron and flattened EVERYTHING. I can't say I am happy with the direction either one is going, but if they stop where they are now -- I can live with it. The "flattened" look is fine, as long as it isn't completely flat. If Google and Apple are determined to follow MS down this path of fail, then THEY will be the ones hurting, as people decide that Linux and Firefox OS aren't so bad...

runningnak3d said,

So far neither Google, nor Apple have gone full moron and flattened EVERYTHING. I can't say I am happy with the direction either one is going, but if they stop where they are now -- I can live with it. The "flattened" look is fine, as long as it isn't completely flat. If Google and Apple are determined to follow MS down this path of fail, then THEY will be the ones hurting, as people decide that Linux and Firefox OS aren't so bad...

"Path of fail"? Right....

And Linux? Please... Linux is a tinker toy. It's too divided by engineers to be of any productive use by anyone outside specialized environments.

runningnak3d said,

As for being able to set them to any color in the spectrum -- WRONG. You can set them to one of about 24 colors that MS allows you to -- that is in 8.1, in 8.0 it is about 16 colors....

As a developer, you can set them to any color of the spectrum.

Dot Matrix said,

"Path of fail"? Right....

And Linux? Please... Linux is a tinker toy. It's too divided by engineers to be of any productive use by anyone outside specialized environments.

I sure hope you're referring to its use as a desktop OS, but even then it's very useful when you've got a bunch of Linux/Unix servers to manage...

rfirth said,

As a developer, you can set them to any color of the spectrum.

Wow, they gave you a color picker now. So, if your display is set to 24bit color, you can pick ONE color out of 16,777,216. MS could have shut people like me up by simply giving me the option to do some simple things like: Pick an icon for the non-live tiles (or at least a background image), or hey, how about in addition to the color picker, they allowed gradients. Throw in a slight bit of transparency on the tiles and we may have a winner. Again -- these could be OPTIONS, and don't give me some load of crap about it taking a whole lot of extra code, or it being a support nightmare.

Dot Matrix said,

"Path of fail"? Right....

And Linux? Please... Linux is a tinker toy. It's too divided by engineers to be of any productive use by anyone outside specialized environments.

Wow, someone here hasn't installed a Linux distribution recently. The only reason I don't just go ahead a switch now is because I still prefer Windows (at least as long as Windows 7 is supported). If MS gets their head out of their ass and fixes Windows with 8.2 or 8.3 or 9, then they will keep me as a customer, otherwise they can **** off (and I am not alone here -- they have ****ed off a lot of loyal diehards).

runningnak3d said,

Wow, they gave you a color picker now. So, if your display is set to 24bit color, you can pick ONE color out of 16,777,216. MS could have shut people like me up by simply giving me the option to do some simple things like: Pick an icon for the non-live tiles (or at least a background image), or hey, how about in addition to the color picker, they allowed gradients. Throw in a slight bit of transparency on the tiles and we may have a winner. Again -- these could be OPTIONS, and don't give me some load of crap about it taking a whole lot of extra code, or it being a support nightmare.

The primary principle of the MDL is being "Authentically digital", with emphasis on typography, and flat design.

runningnak3d said,

Wow, someone here hasn't installed a Linux distribution recently. The only reason I don't just go ahead a switch now is because I still prefer Windows (at least as long as Windows 7 is supported). If MS gets their head out of their ass and fixes Windows with 8.2 or 8.3 or 9, then they will keep me as a customer, otherwise they can **** off (and I am not alone here -- they have ****ed off a lot of loyal diehards).

Wow. Then why not install a third party theme, and move on with your life? You might as switch now, since the Start Screen is here to stay.

That's some strong language for something that's fixable with third party utilities.

runningnak3d said,

Wow, someone here hasn't installed a Linux distribution recently. The only reason I don't just go ahead a switch now is because I still prefer Windows (at least as long as Windows 7 is supported). If MS gets their head out of their ass and fixes Windows with 8.2 or 8.3 or 9, then they will keep me as a customer, otherwise they can **** off (and I am not alone here -- they have ****ed off a lot of loyal diehards).

And, no I do not run Linux since it does not support my needs. LibreOffice (Or whatever it's called this week) is a complete joke, GIMP is a usability night mare, and WINE, well, don't get me started. Linux is not the OS consumers need.

Who mentioned overclocking ? Damn it people jump into conclusions so easily. I'm talking about laptops here. Specifically my Lenovo T420s. Sometimes a background process gets stuck at full processing power and the temperature rises like crazy even when the fan is at full speed. Temperature goes up like crazy when I'm using WIDI too (Intel Wireless Display).

Besides, not everyone lives in a fridge. Some climates are too warm for these laptops, so yes having a temperature monitor is a good idea for the system well being.

As regards the old desktops, you might easily have a malfunctioning fan and the CPU is not getting enough cooling. Having an idea what the CPU temperature is and that the fans are OK is a good idea and may save a CPU from getting fried. I have never overclocked a CPU/GPU personally and I don't like the idea.

So what do you do when temperature goes up like crazy? Shut down your laptop? Or just conclude that it's warm now and move on?

What do I do ?
1) Open Task Manager and check what app is causing the temperature to soar.
2) Kill the App that's causing the trouble - usually it's a frozen app causing problems.
3) If it's a system service that cannot be killed simply restart the PC.

My Lenovo has a tendency from time to time to have a system service stalled, consuming all processing power after resume from Hibernate. If it were not for the temperature monitor in the system tray there is no way to know that the temperature is rising dangerously (80 degrees Celsius). The temperature quickly goes down to 40 after a system Restart.

An app that shows the health status of the PC on the start screen would be very COOL! CPU/MB temperature etc. and changes tile colour as temperature goes up.

C#Rocks said,
An app that shows the health status of the PC on the start screen would be very COOL! CPU/MB temperature etc. and changes tile colour as temperature goes up.

Those system monitors are an utter waste of processing power. The only reason why people run them is to either look look/hacker or because they feel they must see that information, but in reality you really don't need it.

Furthermore it looks compelty tacky, cheap and unprofessional.

Coolicer said,

Those system monitors are an utter waste of processing power. The only reason why people run them is to either look look/hacker or because they feel they must see that information, but in reality you really don't need it.

Furthermore it looks compelty tacky, cheap and unprofessional.

if you're over clocking those numbers apps can be pretty important...

Hah, exactly what I was thinking. If you're really overclocking, you're either doing it so that you can just validate the OC or to keep it stable.

The latter means that you have sufficient cooling in place to keep the CPU at healthy temperatures. If you need some tacky meter running on your desktop at all times just so that you don't hit that magical silicon melting number it means that you're probably never using the CPU under proper loads.

Furthermore, if the temperatures are so critical, I'd suggest getting better cooling or taking a bit off the VCore.

If you're seeing if the OC Temps are decent under heavy load, such as in gaming, then you're probably running a program in the background that is logging the temperature, vcore, load and some other stats.

So once again, it is not needed. But if you _ really really _ want to have just to fill up some space on the start screen of your desktop PC, then I suggest writing your own. Or maybe ask around in the (or some other) forums for somebody else to do it.

PsYcHoKiLLa said,
No, people use it because they overclock and they want to keep an eye on their temperatures. That's why I use them.

Just buy the correct spec in the first place then you won't need to overclock. Overclocking is so early 2000's.

Steve121178 said,

Just buy the correct spec in the first place then you won't need to overclock. Overclocking is so early 2000's.


agreed. Just buy the right hardware and you'll never need to overclock.

ManMountain said,
Could you point me to an i7 running at 4.8GHz?

what on earth would you need that kind of speed for? I mean even the Sandy Bridge i7 has crazy good performance

The fun of overclock is to buy cheaper hardware and get the same or better performance than the expensive CPU.

Steve121178 said,

Just buy the correct spec in the first place then you won't need to overclock. Overclocking is so early 2000's.

FalseAgent said,

what on earth would you need that kind of speed for? I mean even the Sandy Bridge i7 has crazy good performance

Your comments are so narrow minded.

Ok heres the obvious...

1) Overclocking can get you high-end performance for a significantly lower cost.

2) You can only achieve certain speeds from overclocking, as theres nothing that fast on the market.

3) Not everyone browses the net all day posting stupid comments. Some people actually do work and need speed. For instance i render complex 3D scenes/objects, which often takes hours even on my 4.9GHz hex core i7. Overclocking often shaves 1 - 2 hours off my rendering times. Time is money.

Bamsebjorn said,
I'm just hoping it's not 66 degrees Celcius.

It's San Francisco, in the US, why would they be using Celsius when the US uses Fahrenheit?

Bamsebjorn said,
I'm just hoping it's not 66 degrees Celcius.

If it was 66 degrees Celsius then BUILD would be the last thing on anyone's mind! :-)

Yorak said,
One may argue that you just have poor taste. Looks ordinary to me. Matches the rest of Metro.

Nope, he hasn't got poor taste. Don't be a party pooper.