Windows Server 2008 is 20% faster than Vista

It seems Microsoft may have a successor (or replacement) for Vista after all and it's already been released. Windows Server 2008 isn't easy to configure as a desktop operating system but when done correctly can be 20% faster than Vista while retaining most of the same features.

Windows Workstation 2008 is not a product sold by Microsoft and must be configured from a copy of Windows Server 2008. It seems this version of Windows lacks the "bloat" that is part of Vista. However, I am not sure what the author is referring to (but is likely talking about unnecessary services). Of course this version of Windows was designed with developers in mind who covet speed above all else. Workstation 2008 includes IIS and Hyper-V for creating virtual machines.

A Microsoft employee and third party website have created tutorials on how to use Windows Server 2008 as a desktop operating system. This is what I've been referring to as Windows Workstation 2008. Keep in mind that this will have the same driver problems as Vista does, meaning, if a Vista driver doesn't exist for a piece of hardware you still won't be able to use it with Server or Workstation 2008.

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In after "I HAVEN'T CHECKED, BUT IT'S THE SAME THING, STOP POSTING THIS CRAP!!!" , "BLOGS ARE NOT OFFICIAL SO THIS CLAIM IS OFFICIALLY FALSE", and "BENCHMARKS OR IT DIDN'T HAPPEN!!!"

In before Godwin's law.

Vista SP1 is W2K8... so not sure how there is a difference? what'd they test this against vista RTM?

I don't think the guy knows what he is talking about...

"It seems this version of Windows lacks the “bloat” that is part of Vista" - yeah well all that stuff is in W2K8 too its under the component user desktop experience that you can install...

then they try to say it has IIS... um Vista Business and Ultimate have IIS7 also... the same exact version W2K8 does at that! (if you install SP1)

Of course this version of Windows was designed with developers in mind who covet speed above all else.

Should be stability above all, at least in my book... Being a server edition and stuff...

well vista run slower because of the superfetch and many useless services, that its disable by default in windows server 2008. i think that vista sp1 will run the same with windows server 2008 if we tweak it.

I have been running 2008 Server on my Laptop with out issue since the beta. The guides on how to do this are mostly derived from my How To guide as it has evolved.

How to run Windows 2008 Server as a Workstation

Over all the experience has been amazing, every so often I get a piece of Microsoft software that tells me that I can't run it on a Server, but this is mostly very high end stuff that has special licensing fees associated with Server versions of the software. Oh and MSN Messenger, which tells me you can't run it on 64 bit OS's before XP SP2.

No media center in Server, although there are alternatives out there they only a few can really compete with media cente. Some are just a pain in the butt to setup.

I would also think that a server OS should be faster than a regular user PC, it should be doing more work and speed is important if its used in a server environment.

I read this and then immediately backed up my data and blew out my xp and vista sp1 slipstream install.
1st thing I notice is server 08 installs faster. I also notice that it does not appear to "grind" the hard drive constantly. Im installing office 07 as I type, having converted this back to a workstation, im using about 840meg of the 2gig memory in this machine. I've not tweaked anything other then follow the change over guide which added aero, and at desktop with with the 64bit IE7 open (the 64bit feels far faster than the 32bit) 800meg memory usage. I am sure with some services tweaks that I can get her down below 800meg no problem. For vista or server 08 thats not bad. My vista 64 ultimate install at home idles over 1gig tweaked.

It is really responsive.

its the same code lol

like i said, a vlite vista sp1 (already integrated) is the same as windows server 2008 as workstation

simply vlite it and remove all the bloat that he has (the same things that server 2008 dont have enabled or installed)

will be the same thing, plus you will not have any problems with programs dont wanting to install because its a server OS

If you read http://exo-blog.blogspot.com/2008/03/windo...done-right.html ,

they said:

To make the comparison as even as possible, we disabled all of the UI goodies on Vista (i.e. set the Visual Effects to "Adjust for Best Performance" ) and installed the Desktop Experience feature under Server 2008. We also enabled SuperFetch and the Indexing services on the Server 2008 installation (both are disabled by default) and adjusted the "Processor scheduling" option to favor Programs (i.e. the way it's set under Windows Vista).

also:

As for what's dragging Vista down (the number of running processes and services was nearly identical across both OS and in each test scenario), that's a bit harder to define.

So in a test where both OS's were practically identical in settings, S2008 was considerably faster.

Same code or not, how do you explain that?

They compared RTM vista to W2K8... which RTM vista is not the same code as W2K8... Compare SP1 Vista to W2K8 and it's the same littearly byte for byte

It absolutely is not the same code. If that were the case tell me where in vista I can find hyperV. The kernal may be simular or the same, but is only a very small part of the total package. S2008 is not the same thing as Vista, had that been the case S2008 would have released with vista over a year ago.

IMO 20% is not good


I expect a Server OS to be considerably faster more like 40+

Sounds like it's Vista without Aero running

Why would Aero slow down your PC? The DWM uses very little in terms of processor time, and its memory impact is negligable given how much RAM computers have these days.

Vista SP1 and Server 2008 are the exact same code, as has been said countless times on here. There is no difference between them other than configuration.

hmmm interesting, while the kernel may be the same code, Windows Server 2008 does have a variety of tweaks, and of course different services would be enabled. How does 2008 compare to Vista SP1 running with minimum services?

here go again...

When will people begin to write useful articles? Tons of blogs are full of whining about vista.

If you take the time to search for proper hardware, proper drivers, proper configuration vista will run smoothly wihtout any glitch, even those vista post-launch rants about disk trashing or copy/paste issues.

Let me say that for the copy/paste problem, they solve it almost completely. I test software for private purposes and i have been able to blame almost every major anti-virus or memory-resident anti-spyware programs to cause the delays. Namely, the one that causes the major delays when copying/pasting files is EST NOD32/Smart Security and on the spyware line i have seen SpywareDoctor and CounterSpy to hog the file system.

If you don't believe me, try another anti-virus or anti-spyware software to see what im talking about. This is not meant to favor one program because i think developers are still behind vista improvements but some are getting closer than others when it comes to take advantage of the new kernel, driver model, etc.

For the person that said that Vista took an hour to install let me say that i've installed vista pre-sp1 with all updates, custom drivers and about 30 applications each time on machines with an average 1.6-1-8 core duo or core 2 duo and 1gb of ram and all the process takes an hour, but with everything getting installed. In desktops this kind of setups take less time. And this is without removing any windows component.

(ajua said @ #28)
For the person that said that Vista took an hour to install let me say that i've installed vista pre-sp1 with all updates, custom drivers and about 30 applications each time on machines with an average 1.6-1-8 core duo or core 2 duo and 1gb of ram and all the process takes an hour, but with everything getting installed. In desktops this kind of setups take less time. And this is without removing any windows component.

Exaggerate much?

Not possible to update all 100+ updates to pre-sp1 and install the OS and install + 30 apps and updates to them and windows again if you installed office 2007.

Takes several hours. I do this for a living. Where I work I create the images used by our entire district Vista, XP, 2K3, and 2K8 all our machines run my image and I promise you that you cannot sit down and do what you are claiming.
You can't do a xp image in an hour with software and updates and its faster than vista with or with out sp1.

The only way to do it all is if you are loading the systems from an imagex wim file or some other disk image like acronis or the likes. That is not the same as a clean install.

(CyberWolf said @ #28.1)

Exaggerate much?

Not possible to update all 100+ updates to pre-sp1 and install the OS and install + 30 apps and updates to them and windows again if you installed office 2007.

Takes several hours. I do this for a living. Where I work I create the images used by our entire district Vista, XP, 2K3, and 2K8 all our machines run my image and I promise you that you cannot sit down and do what you are claiming

i also do this for a living a i never had to install more than 10 updates at a time. I should stated that i integrate about 40 updates to the images though.

with office 2007 it takes me hour and a hald tops. In desktops this goes in an hour.

nonetheless, not all experiences are the same.

Once again we have the small minority of teenagers with no real world experience that immediately claim something is true without actually doing any work to verify it.

Server 2008 is more rebust than Vista and always will be....One reason: the lack of DRM (thats Digital Rights Management kiddies) without the overhead that Microsoft inserted into Vista to keep you kiddie pirates from stealing movies and music Server has less bloat to fight through. And funny thing is Server 2008 is Super secure...it is after all a SERVER class OS and guess what? I have yet to be asked if I was sure I want to do something...

Oh...and I was able to download Vista w/SP1 x64 from MSDN and install. It is faster yes...but copying files is still SLLLOOOOWWWWW. And I had to turn off the stupid UAC. Server 2008 is still a better OS even though they have the same Kernal...At least with Vista Sp1 you can actually install it if you have 4gb of ram...What did Microsoft not think to actually TEST Vista x64 in a system with 4gb or more..sheesh

My Specs:
Dual core Quad
8gb Ram
8800GT

Oh and I am a system Admin and a MCSE...

Dudes,
If Vista SP1 = Server 2008 (x64 both), why do I get difference SuperPI 1M scores on them?
Server = 13.323s
Vista SP1 (slipstreamed) = 13.696s
(3.94GHz, E7200 running at "Realtime" priority)
People who know what SuperPI is should know it is a significant difference.

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