Windows Vista Service Pack 1 in the Wild

By now many of you may have seen reports of Microsoft Windows Vista Service Pack 1 in the wild. For a while, it was merely speculation (and several good hints) towards Release Candidate Refresh 2 (RCR2) being the Release to Manufacturer (RTM) build. There has been a 'registry hack' going around for a few days now to enable the option to download SP1 via Windows Update. This 'hack' is actually straight from Microsoft, which was given to beta testers on Connect January 23rd.

According to Geeks Anatomy, Jeff DaVos (a Windows Vista SP1 beta program leader) has said on the Connect news group that this is indeed the same release being used for RTM, and that "What you got is what we're all running our Vista machines here internally - we definitely RTM'd".

Link: Geeks Anatomy

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WTF MS, if it's out, release it to the public already (cough cough, already have it, cough). anyway who cares, I switched to OS X last month after almost 2 decades of Microsoft's Frankenstein operating systems. Vista is Xp with problems. UAC is STILL THERE AND DUMB, hopefully MS will learn from Leopard. Windows Os will always be Windows XP with stuff added on. If you took away UAC and Aero what would you have? Direct X 10 is a joke or selling point, cause my games run better with DirectX 9. PLUS LEOPARD HAS BOOT CAMP, YOU CAN RUN VISTA NATIVELY, what is the point of having a PC anymore? Vmware Fusion if your lazy :). Bye Bye Microsoft, nice try.

Hang on a minute, but correct me if I'm wrong? by using the registry hack to inintalise Windows Vista to download SP1 via Windows Update via Windows Vista, there are three downloads which have to be completed otherwise the download for SP1 will not work. Also... once SP1 is installed it's a 30 Day Validation therefore, usless after the 30 day period you will have to uninstall Service Pack?

I'm 100% sure this is the case. As I said I might be wrong...? :ponder:

At least mine is 100% retail so I'm not bothered.

I don't think it's only a 30 day grace period... but I just downloaded it via the script and yea there's 2 updates prior to the sp1 download, and so far I've noticed a more responsive operating system:)

Installed using the cmd script. When I run dxdiag.exe it reports:

DirextX Version: DirectX 10

I thought SP1 was going to include DirectX 10.1 Are we sure that this is final?

Just got around to installing it with the registry patch that was posted here. Pretty smooth update, no problems at all.

This is odd:

Finally got it to install.

After I used the CMD file, my desktop says "test mode" in all four corners (like "safe mode")

Even after installation it still says this, along with the version # at the top of the screen:
"Microsoft ® Windows ® (Build 6001: Service Pack 1)"


Any way to remove these and be "normal"?

I'll be downloading/installing this tonight after work!

Thanks for the CMD download Neowin, nice to see you getting some backhand windows files again

I've just installed SP1 using the attached registry thingy in the post. I'll run through the experience for anyone who's interested in the detailed info:

(1) Ran the .cmd file. All it does is add a couple of reg entries; I recommend loading the .cmd file into notepad or another text editor just so you know for certain it's not malicious.

(2) Went into Windows Update, told it to check for updates. It reported a single update, about 4MB. Installed that, asked me to restart, which I did.

(3) Ran Windows Update, checked for updates again. It reported another single update, this time around 5MB. Did the same thing - installed, restarted.

(4) I tried running Windows Update soon after but nothing was detected. Waited a few minutes, tried again, and WU finally showed Service Pack 1 in the list. It's also the first update which shows its size as a range; I think it was something like 60MB - 550MB. I began installation, it took a fairly long time on this laptop, alternating between actual downloading and a lot of hard disk access.

(5) Started the actual install. Appeared exactly like the first two screens on http://www.winsupersite.com/showcase/winvi...sp1_screens.asp but since it was WU-based instead of standalone, it didn't have any remaining screens. Took a while.

(6) Once it had finished its stuff, I went to restart. Now, instead of that "Windows is configuring updates..." message you sometimes get when installing updates, it had something like:

Installing Service Pack 1: Stage 1 of 3: 0%.
Do not turn off your computer.

The first stage got to 100%, then it turned to stage 2, which when it got to 100% restarted the machine. When windows booted up, stage 3 progressed until it booted as per normal. Now I'm here, I've checked System and it shows Service Pack 1 is installed. Also, if you check the above link with all the screenshots, that final one with the registry values? Mine had IDENTICAL build and version numbers as Paul's, which therefore means, if you download using this way, you WILL get what's going to be released later on. It's all good!

Final points:

* Do not be freaked out when Service Pack 1 is downloading, cos it will probably be maked "Service Pack 1: Release Candidate 1". Well, that's not a surprise, because Microsoft decided this particular candidate had reached maturity and hence is the same as the RTM (as shown in the registry).

* There is no "time bomb", there aren't any messages on the desktop stating it's a service pack or anything. It's proper.

* I've been using, for testing purposes on another machine, an OEM build of Vista Ultimate that I got from the evil torrent sites. It's one of those "preactivated" copies which makes life so useful when reinstalling and you don't want to have to reactivate your legit copy, of which I have one as well. Well... Vista remained activated after installing SP1, so the threat of being deactivated hasn't come to fruition. I'm pretty sure those other hacked versions which use tricks to keep it activated will probably fail though, but since this install cannot be distinguished from a truly legit copy, MS couldn't deactivate it, so I'm safe.

So there. Hopefully that's useful enough to make a decision whether to install.

(GFree said @ #26)
I've just installed SP1 using the attached registry thingy in the post. I'll run through the experience for anyone who's interested in the detailed info:

(1) Ran the .cmd file. All it does is add a couple of reg entries; I recommend loading the .cmd file into notepad or another text editor just so you know for certain it's not malicious.

(2) Went into Windows Update, told it to check for updates. It reported a single update, about 4MB. Installed that, asked me to restart, which I did.

(3) Ran Windows Update, checked for updates again. It reported another single update, this time around 5MB. Did the same thing - installed, restarted.

(4) I tried running Windows Update soon after but nothing was detected. Waited a few minutes, tried again, and WU finally showed Service Pack 1 in the list. It's also the first update which shows its size as a range; I think it was something like 60MB - 550MB. I began installation, it took a fairly long time on this laptop, alternating between actual downloading and a lot of hard disk access.

(5) Started the actual install. Appeared exactly like the first two screens on http://www.winsupersite.com/showcase/winvi...sp1_screens.asp but since it was WU-based instead of standalone, it didn't have any remaining screens. Took a while.

(6) Once it had finished its stuff, I went to restart. Now, instead of that "Windows is configuring updates..." message you sometimes get when installing updates, it had something like:

Installing Service Pack 1: Stage 1 of 3: 0%.
Do not turn off your computer.

The first stage got to 100%, then it turned to stage 2, which when it got to 100% restarted the machine. When windows booted up, stage 3 progressed until it booted as per normal. Now I'm here, I've checked System and it shows Service Pack 1 is installed. Also, if you check the above link with all the screenshots, that final one with the registry values? Mine had IDENTICAL build and version numbers as Paul's, which therefore means, if you download using this way, you WILL get what's going to be released later on. It's all good!

Final points:

* Do not be freaked out when Service Pack 1 is downloading, cos it will probably be maked "Service Pack 1: Release Candidate 1". Well, that's not a surprise, because Microsoft decided this particular candidate had reached maturity and hence is the same as the RTM (as shown in the registry).

* There is no "time bomb", there aren't any messages on the desktop stating it's a service pack or anything. It's proper.

* I've been using, for testing purposes on another machine, an OEM build of Vista Ultimate that I got from the evil torrent sites. It's one of those "preactivated" copies which makes life so useful when reinstalling and you don't want to have to reactivate your legit copy, of which I have one as well. Well... Vista remained activated after installing SP1, so the threat of being deactivated hasn't come to fruition. I'm pretty sure those other hacked versions which use tricks to keep it activated will probably fail though, but since this install cannot be distinguished from a truly legit copy, MS couldn't deactivate it, so I'm safe.

So there. Hopefully that's useful enough to make a decision whether to install. :)

Ditto. I had the exact same experience. The installation was very quick and painless.

(GFree said @ #26)
(2) Went into Windows Update, told it to check for updates. It reported a single update, about 4MB. Installed that, asked me to restart, which I did.

(3) Ran Windows Update, checked for updates again. It reported another single update, this time around 5MB. Did the same thing - installed, restarted.


And before someone starts bashing about the number of restarts, these updates are being discreetly slipped to people with other updates so if you're up-to-date when this comes to WU, you won't need to restart that many times.

Just nice - considering all the issues in this Refresh 2 a.k.a RTM. Well, knowing they're just driver issues makes me feel _really_ much better.

I'm just woundering one thing...to the people who are downloading RC-1, although from what I'm hearing that built is identical to the RTM build, isn't it "time bombed"? I could be completely wrong but that little thing has been nagging me for a bit now. Someone care to enlighten me on this?

For me Windows Update downloads about 11% of the SP1 and then fails with error code 80073712, anyone know what's going on?

my vista has run fine since day 1. never had a problem. i got decent x64 drivers for all my hardware before i got vista so when it was installed it was a breeze. never had the file transfer problem but thats only on the 32bit.

im currently downloading RC1 for 64bit vista

a blue screen and a large skull and crossbones laughing appeared on my screen after the reboot and there are high network and hard drive activity, what shall I do?

Perhaps I'm incorrect, but I think there is a line missing in the cmd file. Shouldn't there be 2 lines added to the registry? The first 2 lines of the cmd file deletes 2 entries which made me think that there also had to be 2 added later. I wasn't getting the update until I added the second key value with the "Wow6432Node" added. Now its downloading. Or was it coincidence that Windows Update saw the SP after I added the 2nd key? :P


The Only thing wrong with my Vista is file transfer.......but i think i'll wait for the official release wouldn't want to cause any instability just because i couldn't wait.

Yep, I had the same Unimatrix Xero. I went ahead and installed anyway and it's exactly the same version as what the so called RTM is.

Runs perfect.

Doesnt seem to work for me. It downloaded to patches, on around 5.7MB and the other around 9.7MB if I remember correctly but no SP1 is visible in the windows update area.

This shouldn´t be posted here. After all, it is still on a private site and not available to the general public. It is a leak just as much as any other SP1 build. Maybe you should go ahead and post every beta version for windows 7 when released.

Would this post follow the Neowin Guidelines? After all the fix was put out to "testers" not for the general public.
But either this way or March, Feb 18th, torrents, etc
Its out there allright

You mean RC2. It may turn out to be the RTM build, but probably not. In any case, it's certainly not declared RTM. And I'm not aware of a way to get it via WU yet.

Since when does Neowin post "leaked" and possible "dangerous" files on the front page for everyone to download? I mean, isn't this file to be used only on a TRIAL basis to download a BETA version of the service pack? Aren't some people slightly concerned that downloading this now, might lead to more problems later? I think I'll just wait until March and get it legit.

There was no external Beta version.

There were however, two publicly released release candidates. (RC1 and RC1 Refresh)

This build (6001.18000) was RC1 Refresh 2, and it stood up to it's name as a Release Candidate, as it was eventually declared RTM.

I'm waiting till March when it is offically released, even then I may not even install it. I've heard SP1 seems to create more problems then it solves, so I'm just gonna hang back and wait to hear what people general experiences are with it before it goes anywhere near my Vista machines.

(RAID 0 said @ #4.1)
Why don't you just try it in one, if you have Vista installed on more than one PC?
I could but but both my Vista machines work perfectly fine and I don't paricularly want to stuff either of them up :P still I suppose I could use that as an excuse to upgrade to Vista x64, since I have to format to install that anyway...still I'm waiting to March.

Someone Officially mark this as the start of "Vista SP1 creates more problems then it solves" era of Forum discussion, and thus we must now hound Microsoft about why SP2 isn't being released sooner, yada, yada, so on and so fourth.

(phiberoptik said @ #4.3)
Someone Officially mark this as the start of "Vista SP1 creates more problems then it solves" era of Forum discussion, and thus we must now hound Microsoft about why SP2 isn't being released sooner, yada, yada, so on and so fourth.


No kidding. Sad. So very sad.

(Xerxes said @ #4.2)
I could but but both my Vista machines work perfectly fine and I don't paricularly want to stuff either of them up :P still I suppose I could use that as an excuse to upgrade to Vista x64, since I have to format to install that anyway...still I'm waiting to March.

Oh OK. After you format, you will want to turn off ALL updates, use old drivers etc. Why would you want to "ruin" a perfectly good install with updates, patches and service packs. Makes sense to me.

You obviously listen to idiots, that listen to idiots, that listen to an idiot that doles out bad advice and unfounded anecdotes.

It's YOU'RE. No, I'm not. I'm just telling you not to update your PC. What makes you think updates (not a SP) will not break "stuff"??? Your logic, it fails.

(RAID 0 said @ #4.8)
It's YOU'RE. No, I'm not. I'm just telling you not to update your PC. What makes you think updates (not a SP) will not break "stuff"??? Your logic, it fails.

Your the one assuming I think updates are faultless, which I never said. However, I've heard plenty of reports that some poeple are experiencing problems after installing SP1 so I am cautious about installing it on mine, I never said I would never install it. I see nothing wrong with taking a cautious approach towards a SP.

(Xerxes said @ #4.9)

Your the one assuming I think updates are faultless, which I never said. However, I've heard plenty of reports that some poeple are experiencing problems after installing SP1 so I am cautious about installing it on mine, I never said I would never install it. I see nothing wrong with taking a cautious approach towards a SP.

Source?

(RAID 0 said @ #4.10)

Source?

There is no one official source that says people are having problems. Just look around Neowin and other websites and there are plenty of people complaining about problems with SP1. This guy talks abit about it, while I admit 90% of those problems are probally fixed by now, it still has me a little concerned about it. I just wanna see what happens once it is out, do people complain that these bugs from the RC builds still exist or will it go smoothly. I am well aware that people with incompatible drivers will not be able to install SP1, so you could make a valid argument that just by the fact SP1 shows up on WU on my machines, that it should install with no issues. Maybe I am just been over cautious but that is why I wanna wait and see.

(Xerxes said @ #4.11)
There is no one official source that says people are having problems. Just look around Neowin and other websites and there are plenty of people complaining about problems with SP1. This guy talks abit about it, while I admit 90% of those problems are probally fixed by now, it still has me a little concerned about it. I just wanna see what happens once it is out, do people complain that these bugs from the RC builds still exist or will it go smoothly. I am well aware that people with incompatible drivers will not be able to install SP1, so you could make a valid argument that just by the fact SP1 shows up on WU on my machines, that it should install with no issues. Maybe I am just been over cautious but that is why I wanna wait and see.

Since I'm sure there were people having problems with the OS you're current running, how did you ever agree to install one on your PC?

(Xerxes said @ #1)
I've heard SP1 seems to create more problems then it solves, so I'm just gonna hang back and wait to hear what people general experiences are with it before it goes anywhere near my Vista machines.

Sorry to burst your bubble, but you've heard wrong. Vista SP1 is far more stable than Vista RTM (the original Vista release). SP1 has been released to OEM partners for integration into computers sold by the likes of Dell, HP, etc etc...

I'm no Vista fan. In fact I loathe it, but I have to work on it and develop for it. SP1 makes Vista a bit more tolerable. I'm definitely installing SP1 on all Vista systems.

(Xerxes said @ #4.11)
There is no one official source that says people are having problems. Just look around Neowin and other websites and there are plenty of people complaining about problems with SP1. This guy talks abit about it

Anyone hitting this link should check out this post for clarification o the problem as the one above relates to an older build.

Colin.

What is this 'v Beta1' in the cmd-file about?

See "reg add HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\WindowsUpdate\VistaSp1 /v Beta1 /t REG_SZ /d dcf99ef8-d784-414e-b411-81a910d2761d /f
IF NOT %errorlevel% == 0 ( goto ERROR)"

Isn't this supposed to be final, and -thus- not-Beta?

Seriously? OK, because when that method was released to testers some weeks ago, it still was a beta. Later it was declared RTM, but that doesn't mean the key changes.

(simon360 said @ #1.1)
And your point is...?

he probably saw what I posted and just reposted it here. Give credit where credit is due is all I am saying.

(Gotenks98 said @ #1.2)

he probably saw what I posted and just reposted it here. Give credit where credit is due is all I am saying.

You should have used the "Submit News" function if you wanted to see it on the front page.

Radish™

Nope, didnt see yours sorry. And actually, I had started writing this one quite a bit earlier in the day, but was at work and couldnt finish it until when I had posted it

(Gotenks98 said @ #1.2)

he probably saw what I posted and just reposted it here. Give credit where credit is due is all I am saying.

So submit it as news next time.

yeah! don't be a douche bag. i'm so freaken tired of these kinds of comments on Neowin. There is a "submit news" link on the main page! If you didn't use it, don't bitch about it. sheeeiiisshhh

(Gotenks98 said @ #1.2)

he probably saw what I posted and just reposted it here. Give credit where credit is due is all I am saying.

Once again I find myself struggling to understand the mentallity of people, like your good self, who complain about not being given credit for conveying publicly available news, the origin of which they had nothing to do with in the first place.


For what it's worth:

Thanks, kudos and all that ********..... to Gotenks98 for cutting and pasting something he found on the web to another part of the web, an hour before someone else.

There, now everyone is happy.