Windows Vista will RTM at build 6.0.6000

A source close to Microsoft has confirmed to me that Windows Vista will in fact carry the build number 6.0.6000. He found this out by receiving a mail with the build stamp "Microsoft Windows Mail 6.0.6000.16384" so that ends that speculation.

Also the MSDN subscription page has been updated with the following information

Windows Vista and Office 2007: Availability on MSDN Subscriber Downloads
Windows Vista and Office 2007 will be available through MSDN Subscriber downloads within 7 days of release to manufacture (RTM). MSDN Subscriptions is committed to making new content available to our subscribers as soon as is practical.
Looks like we'll be seeing this appear soon.

Update: Several key Microsoft employees has firmly stated that Vista has not been released to manufacturing. The day might be soon, but is certainly not today, or tomorrow. There's still a bit more work to do. Build 6000.16384 is real, but it also doesn't mean RTM. These days, Microsoft doesn't have to increase the major version number when building, so theoretically, any sub-set of build 6000 (6000.16385, 16386, etc...) can be RTM.

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Actually no your computer just must suck and be outdated. Vista's expierience will be greater the better your computer is. Pretty much all modern pc's these days will not have any problems running vista. On my vista install compared to my xp install vista it is well faster. I can visually notice the difference between the two. Just because Vista uses around double the amount of ram it shouldn't worry people as long as you got the minimum. You ought to spring forward and upgrade. More importantly people should upgrade their comps eventually anyways. Xp still has that tendency to run slow, programs hanging, freeze up. No problems like that have occured for vista (least my expierience) in respect that your comuter has decent enough specs. The only thing that looks slow and laggy are the procces dialog's which i hope would be fixed for the packaged product. I Think Vista is faster and great upgrade to xp, however is it worth how much their pitching it for? The Ultimate version anyways... thats a little outrageous to say the least.

Well, at least they got the packaging right. yeehaw...

I'd have preferred the software to have been more exciting and the price to have been more attractive.

But who am I to gripe? I'm just the consumer...ahem.

someone should make a poll, how many people are going to buy vista as soon as it's released, and how many are going to wait for the first servicepack/major patch before they buy it...

i'm waiting...

from some random apple site:

The number 16384 is really just 1.0 as a Fract.

A Fract is a 2-bit signed integer plus a 30-bit fraction.

I really doubt they will change the *.16384 number either.... i believe that number is indicative of something else than <number_of_builds>, but probably some like 'full feature set included'. Many IT professionals recognize 16384 as a nice even number from long ago ... ;)

I'm guessing their build number naming standards are similar to this:

<version_of_windows>.<service_pack>.<build_number>.<feature_set>

wow... This is really a news. No? Now we can live in peace for another... 6 months, till the 1st service pack see the light..

Quote - ThePitt said @ #14
wow... This is really a news. No? Now we can live in peace for another... 6 months, till the 1st service pack see the light..

/me says in idiot tech guy with long hair and goatee, who still lives in his moms basement "OMGZ I WILL NOT BE USING THIS TILL AT LEAST SERVICE PACK 8"

Quote - phiberoptik said @ #14.2

/me says in idiot tech guy with long hair and goatee, who still lives in his moms basement "OMGZ I WILL NOT BE USING THIS TILL AT LEAST SERVICE PACK 8"

if you really looks and lives like that, dude, you must ask to your mom brough to you vista ultimate and install, RIGHT NOWz

Quote - phiberoptik said @ #14.2

/me says in idiot tech guy with long hair and goatee, who still lives in his moms basement "OMGZ I WILL NOT BE USING THIS TILL AT LEAST SERVICE PACK 8"

You've already proclaimed yourself an idiot, so I don't have to add a witty riposte.

I agree "Who Cares", I prefer the software not be released period, and Microsoft closed down for good. There all a bunch of Greedy Bas....ds, anyway. Linux is the future "Ubuntu, means humanity to others", "Vista, means millions in Bill Gates and Steve Baldmers pocket".

Microsoft is a publicly owned corporation. They represent millions of greedy bastoids. Everyone who owns Microsoft stock wants them to do anything, no matter how ruthless, to make more money every year.
Ask yourself this, after you have already put a copy of your software on every PC on earth, how do you continue to increase revenue? You either charge more for it, create a new market (PDAs, mp3 players, XBOXes), or make more and more restrictive licensing which forces each user to buy multiple copies. Or do all of the above.
Anyways they suck.
blah blah hurr hurr

Hmm yes call me when i can game reasonably well on linux without using some form of wine.
Better yet, Call me when there are drivers for all my hardware that work correctly.

Linux is a great os, but without Developers making games/drivers and other things for it, it just wont do. I'll line bill gates pockets if it means i can do what i want with my pc when i want.

Until WPA works on all distros, I have no interest in Linux. I don't want to have to manually install anything and vi a bunch of configuration files that *might* get it working. K/Ubuntu *still* doesn't let me configure WPA with a standard installation.

XP and Vista both support WPA -- all I need to do is type in my SSID and passphrase. That's the most configuration I want to do (although I do find Vista's multitude of networking dialogs overbearing and confusing at times)

And WINE is not sufficient for gaming, but my computers all suck, so that's why I have a 360

A source close to Microsoft has confirmed to me that Windows Vista will in fact carry the build number 6.0.6000. He found this out by receiving a mail with the build stamp "Microsoft Windows Mail 6.0.6000.16384" so that ends that speculation.

How does the version of windows mail effect the version number of Windows Vista?

I think all those apps that are part of windows carry the same build number, because they're built with windows and not separately. I could be wrong.

Question is how do they make these builds ?

I am a JavaEE developer, and on each change on the app, I use the Ant-Build of Eclipse, and it takes 5-8 minutes to produce a build of all files in the main project, do MS make the same thing? i.e. the main developer will get all patches from a SourceSafe, and select (Project->Build) and after few hours he gets a complete copy of Vista in a folder.

kinda the same principle but i have read that to build a full copy of MS Windows it takes 24 hours... not sure bout the built numbers thingy

LOL, it's not as simple as having one guy load up an instance of SS or VS and then selecting Project->Build. It's all automated and part of a rather large and convoluted build environment, and machines are compiling code 24/7.

Yeah, although if my previous Vista downloads from MSDN are anything to go by, it will be an overnight job (12 hours+). What annoys me even more is that when you download the public builds using the Akamai manager, it takes about 2 hours. And we pay for MSDN access to get slower than public speeds.

Well they have 90 000 - 16 384 = 73 616 builds to do before they have to resort to 6001. I think they'll manage.

Quote - Long said @ #5.1
Well they have 90 000 - 16 384 = 73 616 builds to do before they have to resort to 6001. I think they'll manage.

You have too much faith in Microsoft's quality control procedures.