Windows XP SP3 Specifics Revealed

If you have recently found yourself yelling "Down with Vista! Where's my XP SP3?", you'll be happy to know Microsoft hasn't forgotten users of its currently most popular OS. Over the last few weeks, the software giant has provided XP downgrades for unhappy Vista customers, announced that Windows XP sales would be extended to June 30, 2008, released a new build of Internet Explorer 7.0 for Windows XP that doesn't require product activation, and released a Service Pack 3 beta to a select group of testers. Vista may be the next big thing, but the gap between the two operating systems has created more problems than Microsoft would have hoped for. Thankfully, the company has decided against pushing Vista at all costs and (hold your breath MS haters) is listening to its customers.

The latest official 334.92 MB SP3 beta download is labelled as build 3205. Would you honestly be surprised if I told you a newer build has already been leaked? Reportedly, the aforementioned SP3 build contains 1,073 hotfixes and patches; 114 of which are security related. SP3 also adds four major features to the Windows XP operating system:

  • a new activation scheme which will not require a product key during installation
  • a new Network Access Protection Module first featured in Windows Vista
  • a Microsoft Kernel Mode Cryptographics Module
  • a Black Hole Router detection algorithm
News source: DailyTech

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im sorry but what do these things

  • a new Network Access Protection Module first featured in Windows Vista
  • a Microsoft Kernel Mode Cryptographics Module
  • a Black Hole Router detection algorithm

actually mean cause atm i kinda get what the " Network Access Protection Module" kinda is and what it does but what do the other things mean (sorry long words confuse me) :redface:

WarningHPB said,
im sorry but what do these things
  • a new Network Access Protection Module first featured in Windows Vista
  • a Microsoft Kernel Mode Cryptographics Module
  • a Black Hole Router detection algorithm
actually mean cause atm i kinda get what the " Network Access Protection Module" kinda is and what it does but what do the other things mean (sorry long words confuse me) :redface:

In laymans term - it makes it harder for your system to be hacked into.

[*] a new Network Access Protection Module first featured in Windows Vista
mobile systems (notebooks) are scanned before they are authenticated on the network. The IT admin can set specific requirements such as the amount of updates or latest virus definitions before it can log into a network.

[*] a Microsoft Kernel Mode Cryptographics Module
I assume (not sure) this has something to do with preventing things like images or media embedded with malicious code from easily accessing and compromising the system.

[*] a Black Hole Router detection algorithm
Makes it harder to hack into your PC - simple.

Mr. Dee said,
[*] a Black Hole Router detection algorithm
Makes it harder to hack into your PC - simple.

I thought black hole detection was merely noticing the lack of a returning ACK packet and trying a different route, whats it do?

Personally, i'd like to see a XP-compatible DX10 being added with SP3. Yes, people will eventually upgrade to Vista, but you shouldn't have to force people to upgrade to an admittedly buggy operating system just to use DX10 (which is the main reason alot of people are making the switch).

darkthunder said,
Personally, i'd like to see a XP-compatible DX10 being added with SP3. Yes, people will eventually upgrade to Vista, but you shouldn't have to force people to upgrade to an admittedly buggy operating system just to use DX10 (which is the main reason alot of people are making the switch).

I dont see a solid reason that Vista is a buggy OS except for its poor drivers support that you have to put the hardware makers for the blame. I wont want DX10 to be in XP but i would prefer DX9 compatibility improved in Vista.

While drivers were an issue, the lingering problems in Vista are at the core level. There have already been two passes of performance related uber-patches. Expect more through SP1. And, for example, SLI didn't work at the core Vista OS level...period. Only once MS fixed that could the drivers really start solidifying. And well, that happened, let's see, about two weeks ago. :P

Wasn't there some talk not long ago that they were going to release a DirectX 9(X) that would allow DirectX 10 games to run on XP in a DirectX 9 mode? That it would allow a DirectX 10 only game to be run on XP, just without all the DirectX 10 enhancements.

Unless it was all BS, I thought some MS people unofficially confirmed it.

darkthunder said,
Personally, i'd like to see a XP-compatible DX10 being added with SP3. Yes, people will eventually upgrade to Vista, but you shouldn't have to force people to upgrade to an admittedly buggy operating system just to use DX10 (which is the main reason alot of people are making the switch).

This was doomed the day MS decided to require a new driver model for DX10. It won't happen in SP3. Actually, MS wouldn't be able to easily add that even if they wanted to, now that this decision was taken. Porting a new driver model to another OS isn't a small task, and would make XP SP2 pale in comparison.

It would be a hassle, all of the existing Windows XP video drivers would suddenly become unusable. Sure tech minded people would have no trouble getting the latest drivers, but I bet plenty of people would be really confused as to why their Windows XP drivers no longer worked on XP. Plus I doubt Microsoft would put that kind of time into it anyway.

Is that so hard to be done?

Well, it took MS a few years to get the new graphics stack of Vista stable.

Doing that now with a finished graphics subsystem, but backporting it to an old OS... Hmm, I can think of more fun things to work on.

jimbo11883 said,
Porting DX10 to XP would mean porting Vista video subsystem, and using Vista drivers...

The only problems is that MS don't want to!!... MS did it many times in the past, with win95, 98se, NT 4.0 and still with some tricks you can install a "it's-impossible-to-install-this-version" directx.

DirectX is no more and not less that a single layer between hardware and code and help to program more easily and directx10 is even more a tiny layer.

Previous dx :

-please draw a cube (code).
-checking.... hummm this hardware don't support to draw a cube by hardware so instead i draw a cube by software. (DX)
-done!. (drivers and hardware).


DX10:

-please draw a cube (code).
-hardware MUST support to draw it... so i send the instructions.. (dx10)
-eh?.. the hardware really don't allow to do it, so i must draw the cube by myself. (drivers).
-done!. (hardware).

Oh wow, slightly better security and new anti piracy features. XP is here to stay atleast give us something decent in a service pack!

You just illustrated what the norm is for service packs.. I'm not sure what you're expecting.

Actually, XP SP3 is like SP2 covering unusually much, with new features actually being added. That's not all that common. They use to aim for bugfixes.

Why does everyone suddenly think a service pack is actually supposed to be a fancy expansion pack? It's normally just a collection of patches rolled up together, be happy if you get anything extra at all.

What? Nothing exciting for the

C:/\Documents and Settings/\User Login/\Local Settings/\Application Data/\Microsoft/\DRM

or the
C:/\Documents and Settings/\All Users/\DRM

subdirectories? I'm amazed.

You act like DRM is Microsoft's fault. They're just giving you the ability to play protected content. If you want to whine about it go whine to the MPAA. If they didn't provide drm support and people couldn't watch protected content I bet they'd all be whining even louder.

I've left Windows XP behind and I don't find myself looking back.

After the hotfixes, I don't really have an issue with Vista anymore, I just love it.

What I DO find to be total BS is Google complaining about the in-built search in Vista.

I know MS is going to let Google's application change the way searches are done in Vista in SP1, but if this is going to cause problems it's going to be one reason for me to dislike Google.

Can someone tell me if Windows Media Player 11 and Internet Explorer 7 are included in SP3 or not?

Also, what about DirectX 10? Any hope for that or do we have to sick with poor ol' 9c (or is that 9d)?

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