Would you (legally) download Vista?

If Microsoft made Vista available for legal retail download, would the masses come? Looks like we'll soon find out.

The Redmond software vendor officially acknowledged on January 17 its plans to offer a Vista Family Pack. If you buy Vista Ultimate at retail, you will have the option of obtaining up to two copies of Vista Home Premium for $49.95 a piece.

Microsoft also announced this evening official pricing for Vista upgrades if you purchase them via the Windows Anytime Upgrade program. Via Anytime Upgrade, a user may purchase a "key" that will allow him/her to unlock a more powerful version of Vista on the operating system DVD.

But the Vista announcement Microsoft made tonight that intrigued me the most was its plan to make many of the Vista — and Office 2007 — SKUs available to consumers for download from the Microsoft Windows Marketplace Web site. The versions available for download are Vista Home Basic, Home Premium, Business and Ultimate.

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Is it possible to use Windows marketplace outside US and Canada? Downloading would be much cheaper option than buying from store. For example price for retail Ultimate seems to lie around $680 vs 399 in US.

Only if the prices were lower than they are in the stores. If I'm gonna save them packaging and distribution costs then I want them passed on to me.

I guess Microsoft finally decided that they need to compete with all the freely available downloadable quality distros out there. Funny thing is that this completely goes against everything they've stood by in the past, but people don't seem to see the contradiction.

Another late and unoriginal "innovation" from the great aging behemoth.

Let see Windows Anytime Upgrade
Home Basic --> Home Premium: $79
Home Basic --> Ultimate: $199
Home Premium --> Ultimate: $159
Business --> Ultimate: $139

I made be wrong but that pettey high cost upgrade if ask me when you need to take in count you need Vista OS frist so you have buy one of the falling
Home Basic upgrade retail price, $99.95
Home Premium upgrade retail price, $159.00
Business upgrade retail price, $199.00
It seem like it cost you more in the long run
Home Basic --> Home Premium: +$21
Home Basic --> Ultimate: +$41
Home Premium --> Ultimate: +$59
Business --> Ultimate: +$79

Note that Ultimate upgrade retail price is only, $259.00

I don't care about the original disk and pack and manual and stuff...If it saves me GOOD money by downloading then I will think about it.

Downloading content is indeed the way of the future, and Microsoft is taking an important first step by offering Vista and Office for download. A very smart move.

And yes, I would download Vista. But I already have my free copy from the tech beta.

Anyone that has access to their University's MSDNAA account, Microsoft posted Windows Vista Business DVD to it yesterday.

Im downloading the 6.6GB image now. The best part about the MSDNAA is its free and gives you a unique cd key.

Too much crap connected to Vista right now for it to be a purchase.

1. They probably won't discount the downloads.

and 2. The American NSA is involved with the security side. No thanks. I have enough spyware TRYING to get on my PC every day. Last thing I want to do is run an OS that blatantly has the NSA tied to it. (yes, I've heard the stories about backdoors in XP.)

Since I'm an adult with a job I plan to buy this as I have saved for 1 week (last week). Then picking up another vista after download for 50$ is a great deal. I'm going to write this off though.

I already have downloaded it legally thanks to my MSDNAA account. Along with all sorts of other Microsoft software. I much prefer this than ordering a retail box, which I'm probably only going to discard anyway.

In regards to upgrade anytime do they allow the swapping between the 32 and 64 bit versions of the OS and if it isnt free how much? It'd be mindless to have to pay again for essentially the same OS. The reason I ask is I got a laptop with MCE which gets me an upgrade the Home Premium 32bit but down the road the 64 bit version may be the way to go.

If I wouldn't have it already, I might download it if it would be about €30 cheaper or if they'd also send me the box and DVD.

I would if the prices were a lot cheaper then the boxed versions. Not to mention the upgrade prices are completely whacked, no way am I purchasing this OS.

C_Guy said,
No, never. I want my Windows on a genuine disc.

Yup. Although I'm not planning on upgrading anytime soon. If I were to go buy it, I would want the nice fancy DVD instead. I'd much rather buy a program/OS etc. from a store and have the nice CD and case. That is, if it's the same price. If it were significantly cheaper over the internet, it'd be a different story (but I doubt it will be so...).

No, never. I want my Windows on a genuine disc.

Really? Since I've had my MSDN subscription, Having the genuine discs has meant less and less to me. Even the discs that Microsoft sends with OSes and other apps on them are just chocked full of ISOs or folders of the installation files. No holograms, no fancy jewel cases. I like it that way; it's a lot more efficient. Plus, downloading stuff from the MSDN site (the ISO images) is fine.

I think if they made the price for Vista and Office 2007 reasonable enough, more people would download it.

the_devhead

Would I download Vista? Yes.
Legally? No.


Some of us are theifs; I dont care if its morally wrong or illegal.


But hey MS's direction with this is great and well if it was something like 5 bucks (which we all know it wont, thats why im gonna download it illegally) for a licence then yeah I see no problem in buying a couple of licences.

cantstopwontstop said,
But hey MS's direction with this is great and well if it was something like 5 bucks (which we all know it wont, thats why im gonna download it illegally) for a licence then yeah I see no problem in buying a couple of licences.

$5? Get real. Even I know a full OS is worth more than that. Most people will probably get it on new computers anyway.

RiVaLSSJ said,

$5? Get real. Even I know a full OS is worth more than that. Most people will probably get it on new computers anyway.

yeah it's worth more than 5 dollars... but the way i see it is "if" i where to buy it i would automatically EXPECT it to work on as many pc's "in my home" as i want it to ... buying those "multiple licenses" crap is a bunch of bs i would NEVER do that... cause the way i see it is if your paying like 100+ dollars for something like this u should be able to use it on however many pc's u want in your own home cause that sounds insane to me to buy a separate copy per pc when it's in your "own home".... cause without being able to do that it just seems "unfair" to me.

if this dont happen... then im obviously going to obtain it otherways ... but like i said i dont even really care (as of now) about vista cause it's basically not really any better than WinXP is... and besides it wont be mainstream use til about SP1.

I'm not going to be downloading, because microsoft is giving me a copy of ultimate, but if it ended up being cheaper to download it than buy it, and I wasn't getting ultimate, I would probably download it.

I can't believe this hasn't been mentioned yet. I work in a computer store and we will not accept a non-original CD of Windows or Office if a customer wants their OS/Office (re)installed. This is going to cause a bunch of heartache for us, with Microsoft allowing customers to DL/burn their own Vista DVD. It will no longer be possible to identify a illegal/counterfeit copy. I commend MS for making it "easier" for customers to obtain Vista, but I don't like this approach. /rant off

IMHO, it's not the store's job to determine whether a copy is genuine or not. WPA and WGA are MSFT's answer to piracy, and I think they do their job against the casual pirate. You can call Microsoft and order a holographic replacement CD without a license key for about $10. I'm not sure I would trust a 17 year old kid at a computer store with my $400 software anyway.

It doesent matter wether the CD is genuine or not.

You dont pay for a pretty CD you pay fora pretty sticker with a licence key on it. If it has that and it goes in and activates then thats microsofts problem and not yours.

Unplugged said,
It doesent matter wether the CD is genuine or not.

You dont pay for a pretty CD you pay fora pretty sticker with a licence key on it. If it has that and it goes in and activates then thats microsofts problem and not yours.

Yeah i was gonna say that, not reinstalling if they don't have a disc is just stupid, if it has a COA then you don't even need to ask, no COA no reinstall, disc or no disc.

I'd rather have a retail DVD as the retail discs last longer then burnt copies and you can ask MS for a replacement if it breaks... download services I never have liked (although i have bought stuff from them, norton ghost, acronis trueimage 10, photoimpact, etc) its just not the same as having a retail product though

that might be somewhat true but if you burn data onto a "quality" DVD-r/+r such as verbatim/taiyo yuden... then it will last for more than the life of the OS for sure ;)

so in other words burned discs are pretty much just as good as retail ones.

Bah, we already have the news of the Marketplace even on the front page, and we already had the news some day ago about the Family Pack...

Here's an idea

Then don't, if you can't afford to pay for what you use every time you use yoru computer, what you use to run every app and everythgin you do on it. Then don't upgrade, or switch to linux and live with it.

otherwise you are no better than any other thief.

HawkMan said,
Here's an idea

Then don't, if you can't afford to pay for what you use every time you use yoru computer, what you use to run every app and everythgin you do on it. Then don't upgrade, or switch to linux and live with it.

otherwise you are no better than any other thief.

Stop bitching. I'm getting Vista next month anyway although it'll be on my new laptop. So I guess i have enough money to buy Vista if it was neccecary.

I would though do the anytime upgrade.

I am getting home premium from dell for free (new xps 410 pc ) and vista business from microsoft for free.

I will be using the anytime upgrade for $159 to upgrade to vista ultimate and then doing the family pack for $50 for a copy for my parents pc

make it substantially cheaper than the retail version and I might think about it.
But, I have no intention of upgrading to Vista from XP anytime before mid to
late summer.

C_Guy said,
Well that certainly justifies it! Are you out to steal a Porche next?
While I agree that "warez"ing Vista (or any other software) is wrong, equating it with theft is not correct.

It is copyright infringement. A matter of civil law. Theft involves tangible goods, and is a matter of criminal law.

markjensen said,
While I agree that "warez"ing Vista (or any other software) is wrong, equating it with theft is not correct.

It is copyright infringement. A matter of civil law. Theft involves tangible goods, and is a matter of criminal law.

So you don't mind me stea-... err "moving" money from you credit card. As far as I know money on cc is not tangible.

RealFduch said,
So you don't mind me stea-... err "moving" money from you credit card. As far as I know money on cc is not tangible.

The difference between software piracy and that is that in the former you are making a copy of the data, in the latter you are actually moving something from one place to another.

RealFduch said,

So you don't mind me stea-... err "moving" money from you credit card. As far as I know money on cc is not tangible.


There is no money on a credit card: It's a voucher of secured credit for monies that are actually in a bank vault somewhere. So, you're talking about defrauding a credit card company and/or a bank, and also possibly wire fraud and/or postal fraud. You'd be committing several felonies that would land you in federal prison, whereas warezing Vista would be the commission of a actionable incident that may be brought to a civil court for claims of damages and for punitive claims. There's a big differenece.

I would download legally though that depends on the price. I expect it to be cheaper than the retail boxed versions.

Here here! I'd do it to save on money, I don't care about some fancy packaging and manual nor do I care about a holographic disc. If it saves me a good ammount to download and burn it myself, done and done.

i agree with you ;)

besides right now i dont even really want vista as programs still are trying to get compatible with it and basically to sum it up... Vista wont be real good until atleast SP1.... by that time most programs will support it and most companys will have drivers for it etc.

Fubar said,
no i wouldnt

Good for you. Neither would I. Microsoft products lost their appeal about 2 years ago as far as I'm concerned. Hell, they lost their appeal about 6 years ago, but it took so damn long just to get away and yet still be comfortable. I guess I should thank the 2.6 series Linux kernel for that. It changed a lot of things for FOSS.

No offense to the fanboys. They seem to hate on me for not liking their precious MS. I'm used to it.

By the way... windows 2000 is still a good operating system. It's a pity...