Woz: "Apple working on new things that will surprise and shock us all"

Apple's co-founder, Steve Wozniak, speaking at the Login technology conference in Vilnius, Lithuania made some bold claims about Apple's future. Widely celebrated as the brains behind the company, Woz has often been an Apple critic as of late, offering his slant on most major decisions the company make.

The co-founder first commented on Apple's 16-month low stocks:

Stock price is a little low right now. Over time I've seen Apple go up or down 2x over a few months.

He went on to talk about Apple's business model, as well as the company's future products:

Apple's business model tends to be new products, even products that didn't exist before and doing well out of them and not remaking the same thing, as eventually that just gets a little bit stale. So I would guess that Apple is very well prepared, and working on new things that are going to surprise and shock us all. And I honestly don't know [what].

Woz then replied to a more prying question about new products:

I gave up trying to guess a long time ago. There can be rumors which are false, or something gets cancelled. I never ask key insiders at Apple what they are about to come out with.

In his speech, the co-founder envisioned a future for us all where the power of computers brought us to "a perfect place of happiness". Woz has been known for his particularly free-thinking views, on occasion playing numerous practical jokes on his colleagues and family.

Apple, now a multi-national corporation, was founded by Steve Jobs and Steve Wozniak in the garage of Jobs' home. In recent years, Apple's share price had seen a seemingly unstoppable rise. Since early 2013, however, stocks have plummeted, recently slipping below the $400 mark.

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I think Neowin should joing GSMArena petition for proper size top range devices - something that Woznyak hates.

Great article, very informative. I especially like the part where he says he doesn't know (anything). How do you pronounce the writers name? Buffoon? Got to be trolling us.

"Apple working on new things that will surprise and shock us all"

(is not the same as)

"So I would guess that Apple is ... working on new things that are going to surprise and shock us all. And I honestly don't know [what]."

I like apple but prices must come down it is just not value for the money spent no matter how you look at it apple is ripping you off.

Wow, I went into this article thinking that Woz knew for a fact that Apple was working on new things that would surprise and shock us all, but Woz just guesses and doesn't know if they are.

"even products that didn't exist before..."

Can't think of many products they've come up with that didn't exist before. One maybe, but that's about it.

apple will never win at anything. they might get a head start with a new product,but their brand is their own enemy. Competitors will start flooding the market with the same product and naturally, they will end up selling less and less as the competition heats up. And if they try to compete on price, it means less margins, and damage to the brand because the quality must go down. You saw it on the PC front,and now its happening with phones and tablets. The stock price is a reflection of this.

If they were to come out with some other 'magical' product,the same thing is going to happen.

I like how people praise the Woz for knowing his stuff and all that, but change their mind on him when he says something they don't like. "Oh wait, he said something good about Apple? Better contradict everything good I've said about him!"

I don't see people he saying anything bad about Woz, people are complaining that Woz said he really doesn't know, but thinks good things will be made from Apple, but the

And I honestly don't know

part is ignored.

Of course, when Woz has something good to say about Microsoft, the Apple fanboys are happy to proclaim him an irrelevant washed-up has-been, but when he speculates that Apple will have something new and exciting, then he knows his stuff.

To recap:
Say something good about an actual Microsoft product: he is just an old out of touch guy that was once important.
Say he believes in Apple, but has no real evidence: what an insightful person

Except that the community here is largely anti-Apple, so none of what you're saying is really prevalent, and works in reverse.

Your statement might be true of this was one of those Mac communities...

So because a Microsoft-oriented site has more discussions about Microsoft products, when a bunch of Apple fanboys get upset and attack him when Woz says something positive about Microsoft, we are supposed to let it go and ignore it. But when there is an article about Woz, and people are not criticizing him and actually agreeing with him, but criticizing the way the article was written, then it is an attack against him and Apple? What kind of load of crap is that?

And to use your "point" if I were to go to TUAW, MacOS rumors, or a site like TheVerge, which are Apple fanboy web sites, I can start claiming that all their articles about Microsoft is flip-flopping and the discussion must stop?

That's not what I meant at all, and to be frank, you have a tendency to drive an argument to death with the weird way you drag things out by inferring ridiculous things that no one ever said. This is why I don't bother replying to what you post half the time because honestly, I can never figure out what or who you are mad at.

That said, my entire point is that people should be a little more consistent or perhaps look at things objectively. A mere observation in how people behave on a daily basis is all. Not sure what you're getting all bent out of shape about.

Personally, I don't care about Apple, and while I think Woz may know what he's talking about, I don't sit around the guy waiting for the next dribble to spill from his mouth like it's the word of God.

SoylentG said,

Of course, when Woz has something good to say about Microsoft, the Apple fanboys are happy to proclaim him an irrelevant washed-up has-been, but when he speculates that Apple will have something new and exciting, then he knows his stuff.

Generalizing Apple Fanboys again, I see. That must have been a different SoylentG who got on to someone about making generalizations.

I'm an Apple Fanboy and I defended Woz when people called him a has been for liking Windows Phone. Mainly because I agreed. Windows Phone 7 and 8 are great mobile OSs.

dead.cell said,

That's not what I meant at all, and to be frank, you have a tendency to drive an argument to death with the weird way you drag things out by inferring ridiculous things that no one ever said. This is why I don't bother replying to what you post half the time because honestly, I can never figure out what or who you are mad at.

Bingo.

If you say something positive about a company or product, he'll go through great lengths to make you look like a hypocrite for saying so by bringing up something someone may have said on a message board at a different site. Something nohone use to do before he mysteriously vanished.

[quote=omgben said,]to make you look like a hypocrite for saying so by bringing up something someone may have said on a message board at a different site[/quote]

First, you are crying that I am calling people hypocrites, when it was dead.cell that wrote:
[quote]I like how people praise the Woz for knowing his stuff and all that, but change their mind on him when he says something they don't like.[/quote]
Here he is whining about people being hypocrites, and then you blame me, and not him, for calling out what people wrote? I know, you Apple fanboys need to stick together, and protect one another to advance the cause.

Second, I don't need to go to other boards to find instances of attacks against Woz, here are some quotes:

About liking Windows Phone:
[quote]Wanaa bet he's saying this now that Steve Jobs is dead & can't get in a fight with him over this?[/quote]
[quote]really, who gives a stuff what a guy who left Apple all those years ago does with his life?[/quote]
[quote]Apple Co-Founder. He's ****ing nothing now days. He's a regular guy who bought a new friggin phone. Who the hell cares.[/quote]
[quote]He's a guy who left a company before it became huge, and somehow people think he's the greatest thing since sliced bread, or that his opinion matters.[/quote]
[quote]So, who cares?![/quote]
[quote]idiot[/quote]

About saying that Android will be the "king" of the market:
[quote]I'm not sure he's still relevant.[/quote]

About saying Siri is going downhill since Apple bought it:
[quote]What has Wozniak done in the last 20 years?[/quote]
[quote]Does anyone really care what this guy says anymore?[/quote]

After saying Microsoft is more innovative than Apple:
[auote]How can I get people to care about me this week?[/quote]
[quote]Woz demands far more respect than he deserves[/quote]
[quote]So the guy that designed one great computer, got left behind at Apple and retired in the early 80s is still taking every opportunity to have a dig.[/quote]
[quote]he's still bitter [/quote]


After Woz said that Apple's lawsuit against Samsung hold up:
[quote]This guy is overrated; he hasn't done anything of merit[/quote]

About Woz wanting iPod software on other devices:
[quote]This guy gets wayy more attention than he deserves. Apple hasn't changed their MO till now, why should they on account of what Wozniak thinks? No, they really shouldn't. What DOES wozniak do... he did, and he's done.[/quote]

I didn't need to go to a message board on another site, I found them right here on Neowin. But that just proves the point, ignore what Apple fanboys will say as long as it pushes the Apple agenda.

Third: Look, we know you have some sort of love infatuation with me and trying to prove I am somebody else, but it is not going to happen. I don't swing that way.

And once again, you're mad about something or another. I stopped reading when you mentioned us being Apple fanboys "sticking together" when I don't own any of their products.

I feel like we're on Fox News or something. I bet if I say I disagree with the government or military, I'll be asked why I hate America.

But seriously, I'm just putting you on ignore. Once again, you're way to angry of an individual on every occasion for me to worry about. Put me on ignore too if you'd like. I'd hate for you to waste your time writing long-winded replies that I'm not even going to read.

So they are working on things that will blow our minds, but he honestly doesn't know what.. ok thanks Woz.

Seriously think they need to be releasing some of this stuff now. I dont think they have much up their sleeve which other companies haven't thought about - if they did then there would be no need to have this big gap between the previous innovations they have created.

There really hasn't been that much of a gap. There was what, 5 or so years between the iPod and iPhone, then about three between that and the iPad. We can't expect a new revolution from anyone every year.

This can go either way. They can create something that is wow us or something that make us think 'what the heck Apple thinking.

I remember when this was a news site. Now it looks like the day of the Boston bombing where every one has to get out the same story the quickest.

The iPhone is conceptually very similar to the Windows Mobile PDA I had years before it came out.

Which there's nothing wrong with, except it means Apple have a real nerve to go around complaining about people copying their ideas.

singularity87 said,
The iPhone is conceptually very similar to the Windows Mobile PDA I had years before it came out.

Which there's nothing wrong with, except it means Apple have a real nerve to go around complaining about people copying their ideas.

The iPhone changed the way to interact with your smartphone; furthermore there is the timing factor: I had a PDA, well sort of, in 1982, but the concept became popular only with the Palm many years later..

What they will do is this....

Bring something to the market that already went and claim they invented it and then claim the rewards.

That's is apple in a nutshell.

What a load of ****.

If you mean with what they did for the iPhone, I agree.. but it still shook up the industry and really set the wheels in motion for decent smartphones and growth in that sector. This was also only six years ago and look at what we have now.

I think the next revolution is with wearable technology, and I imagine Apple begun work on that long before Sergey Brin moved to Google and they even started thinking about Glass.

People will moan that Apple didn't 'invent' an 'iWatch', and that most of the technology it uses has featured in previous products. If they can get the implementation right, though, they could be looking at another consumer technology revolution, as with the iPhone.

But they shouldn't complain that someone ever copy them, Apple is full of crap even if they 'revolutionize' marketing!

Stup0t said,
What they will do is this....

Bring something to the market that already went and claim they invented it and then claim the rewards.

That's is apple in a nutshell.

What a load of ****.

The most important thing is not the "idea" itself but its execution:
Ford did not invent the automobile but he made it a commercial success.

It's a non story of course. He's a computer hall of fame genius, but he doesn't know what's going on in the company, isn't working on revolutionary stuff himself, so it's all just his Apple love.

The story is that Woz is confident that "Apple is very well prepared, and working on new things that are going to surprise and shock us all" if that isn't a story then I don't know what is lol

Is anyone saying the same thing about Microsoft, Nvidia, Intel, AMD? No.

Um, actually, yes. Wasn't there an interview will BillG a few months back where he said that he was confident with Win8 and the direction the company was heading? There was an article here on Neowin about it. Bill is a co-founder of Microsoft, Woz is a co-founder of Apple. Bill is still semi-active in the company, is still consulted on big issues, and has insider access to the company. Woz (not intending this do be a dig at him) stands in line when the iphone is released. Actually, now that I think of it, didn't Woz have good things to say and got excited about Microsoft products, especially Windows Phone? And when he did have good things to say about WP and Microsoft, Woz was discredited by many as a washed-up hack that was no longer relevant, and it was not news. But when he says, essentially, I have new clue, I suppose Apple is working on new and exciting things, something I have no doubt about, then he is relevant again?

So yes, people are saying the same thing about Microsoft.

Here is the article, if you missed it:

http://www.neowin.net/news/bil...-not-returning-to-microsoft

Microsoft is moving ahead with Windows 8 that combines the best of tablet with PC. This month the very first hardware based on that idea including Microsoft's own Surface will ship. So there's a lot of exciting stuff ahead in software

and of course there is this:

I give about 15% of my time as Chairman of Microsoft

So he has insider knowledge of Microsoft, and spends time there to know there is exciting things around the corner.

Think about how many milliseconds you could save every week, checking your wrist to see if you have messages, instead of checking your phone.

Think about how many 'seconds' you'll lose to reply anything because you had to see two screens instead of one! More menus, more clicks, more eye movement, etc. On top, you could just get other things solved once you got your Smartphone out. There are also going to be more crashes because of people getting distracted a fraction of a second while driving without police or outsiders noticing.

I guess it's not a good idea to be your usual critical self when your Apple shares aren't worth as much as they used to.

And as already stated, the choice of title sucks.

Worst article EVER. Change the title now, its a lie. Worst part is you're not just making yourself look bad but you're making Wozniak look bad! Change it!!!

Congratulations to the writer, Mr Buffoon, on creating the single most misleading headline I've ever read.

What a crap article. No other way to put it.

Neobond said,

Just because you disagree doesn't mean you are right.

It's similar to when reporters use only part of a quote to make someone look bad to bring in readers, this uses part of a quote to make Woz look like he knows what he's talking about, when in fact (which he reveals right after the quoted text) he does not.

....Would be relevant, if that was the purpose of the article at all. It's not. The story is, that Wozniak, who has incredibly close ties with Apple engineers and executives, shares his opinion on where he thinks the company he co-founded will go in the future.

Go ahead and watch the full speech at the conference, he hints at new products on a number of occasions.

There's far too many commenters with faceless profile pictures and ridiculous user names attempting to put down writers on the site. Feel free to offer your own content up, displaying how it is vastly more accurate and reliable, 'Major Pionquer'.

Neobond said,

Just because you disagree doesn't mean you are right.


Oh yeah? Well, i'm not the only on this side of the fence, look at the other comments here and decide for yourself if or not the title is misleading, both here and at pocketnow.

Major Plonquer said,
FYI: I was at Apple in the 1970s and knew Woz well - or at least I did up until his plane crash. You just plain misquoted him. Cut it out.

Sure you were. I used to be a civil partnership with him, what u sayin'?

benbuffone said,
....Would be relevant, if that was the purpose of the article at all. It's not. The story is, that Wozniak, who has incredibly close ties with Apple engineers and executives, shares his opinion on where he thinks the company he co-founded will go in the future.

Go ahead and watch the full speech at the conference, he hints at new products on a number of occasions.

There's far too many commenters with faceless profile pictures and ridiculous user names attempting to put down writers on the site. Feel free to offer your own content up, displaying how it is vastly more accurate and reliable, 'Major Pionquer'.

Sorry bud, but he said "I honestly don't know." Therefore his comments mean Nothing.

Cue Family Guy pope quote 'he's a cookin a something up'...

Woz: "Apple working on new things that will surprise and shock us all"
"I never ask key insiders at Apple what they are about to come out with."

So this isn't about future products from Apple. It's about Woz's confidence in Apple.

It's a good thing he doesn't guess that they're building an ispaceship for mars tours...

Woz: "Apple working on spaceship tours of Mars!"