WP7 Mango: OS-wide Chat, game sync and more confirmed

Hot on the heels of the leak last week from WP Dev Podcast comes another leak of images from the platform. The images detail a set of features rumored to be coming to the platform, but these are proof that these features should be announced next week in the May 24 Mango announcement.

 

The first screenshot shows off the previously reported Messaging Hub chat integration, showing that Windows Live Messenger and Facebook Chat are built right into the platform with Windows Phone OS 7.5. It also shows an option named "threads" which is presumably "SMS" renamed, but this also could be email threads or some sort of unified messaging solution. Also shown above is "groups" which simply allow you to email or text a large group of people in one action.

 

The next two screenshots show off the Skydrive integration to the Office Hub. This confirms that even deeper integration will be available, allowing the user to save and retrieve documents from the cloud (Skydrive is currently "supported" but only OneNote is able to utilize the service.

 

The games hub has been overhauled, and will also allow cloud sync of saved games and settings (similar to that seen in "Steam Sync" where games synchronize across PC's). Finally, pictured below is a feature we haven't heard of before; "Show album art on Lockscreen." The feature does what it says, but it is rumored to be a dynamic display, similar to that of the Zune desktop experience (rather than static album art).

 

It seems suspicious that the developer podcast is receiving these images and leaking them on a regular basis. It could mean that this is intentional from Microsoft or that the site has found an MVP or Microsoft employee who is willing to leak the images. Either way, expect a Windows Phone 7 announcement on May 24. Neowin will be attending the event and will cover the news as it happens.

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this is good news. just switch from iphone to wp7. have to say there is a get-used-to process, but now I am liking the phone. it's quick and it does what a smart phone supposed to do. it's true that some important features are missing but this would be a really nice update. cannot wait...

Don't worry, multitasking, IE9 mobile, Twitter integration and way much more is on the way for this update.

Edit: this was a reply on Fritzly's post

I really hope that the list of improvements will be longer and including really important things; I cannot care less about Facebook.

Fritzly said,
I really hope that the list of improvements will be longer and including really important things; I cannot care less about Facebook.

Longer?? Wow are you hard to please... Check the net, this update is already supposedly huge... Not all of it is here of course, but it's been discussed online in great detail.

Some highlights (Nowhere near complete):
- Multi-tasking
- Visual Voicemail
- IE 9 with HTML 5 support, Silverlight support, etc.
- Twitter integration (Like Facebook)
- Turn by turn directions
- SMS Dictation (Hopefully for standard texts too)
- HUGE Bing updates
- Some Skype integration?

And much more... It sounds to be a very big update...

day2die said,
Yup. Codename Apollo.

Any rumours on the details? I remember at one stage they wanted to merge Windows NT core and Windows Phone 7 interface so that there was an end to end core from server down to phone with Windows being so modular that they can chop and choose what they wanted in it.

Mr Nom Nom's said,

Any rumours on the details? I remember at one stage they wanted to merge Windows NT core and Windows Phone 7 interface so that there was an end to end core from server down to phone with Windows being so modular that they can chop and choose what they wanted in it.

LOL

When this goes live ill actually upgrade from my HD2-Wp7 to a dedicated WP7 device

I think Mango will being alot of users over and will finally be a big step for WP7

I would like to see some linking for the MP tho... Its abit annoying that i own Uno on the 360 but would have to pay for it again on the phone I know they are different apps but surely Uno is Uno...

johnnyq3 said,
I wonder if this means that there will be game sync for Xbox Live on the 360.

Sounds like, huh? That's going to be awesome...

This was the very reason that I got HTC Legend (Android) on a 1 year only contract. I come from a WM and have been using it for a while but for me the WP7 platform wasn't just mature enough to make a switch and I needed a new phone. I am glad I got a 1 year contract so looks like I will be getting WP7!

-=SEDIN=- said,

Sure will buddy

as this bro said, windows phone has specific requirements, and can only use certain chips, so they all are updatable to new versions. you don't have the same issues as you have with android.

timsweb said,
If you buy a Windows phone now, Will it be okay to update to 7.5 (Mango)?

Yeap, and some phones also provide more than the minimum requirements such as the phone I have with has both a camera on the front and one facing too. I have an LG C900K Optimus 7Q and everything works perfectly on it, every update works flawlessly, battery life is awesome etc. Well worth the upgrade I made from iPod Touch (iOS 4.3.x) to WP7

Faisal Islam said,
O yeah! So sexy I LOVE WINDOWS PHONE

+1

Now if only Verizon could get it already... *grumble*...

And a good phone too. Even the rumored release only has a single phone? Come on Verizon...

M_Lyons10 said,

+1

Now if only Verizon could get it already... *grumble*...

And a good phone too. Even the rumored release only has a single phone? Come on Verizon...

well no worries, its comming on may 19th or 24 or 29 or june 3 12 21 or july 2..... yeah idk if its comming haha

jasonon said,
well no worries, its comming on may 19th or 24 or 29 or june 3 12 21 or july 2..... yeah idk if its comming haha

Yeah, I know. What a joke, right? By the time Verizon gets WP7, we might as well wait for 7.5 to come out...

rev23dev said,
All I want is all of my Hotmail calendars to be available. Birthday calendar, US Holidays calendar. That's all.

Same. All the new features look fantastic, but the one thing I want most is a better calendar tool. Without Facebook Events (either direct or via a Hotmail imported calendar), the Calendar in WP7 is pretty much useless.

I just think it's irritating that they took away Outlook sync in favor of the Hotmail calendar, which is fine. I moved everything there. But Hotmail insists on Birthdays and Calendars in their own calendar. So if you're going to force this new way on everyone, at least make it work right. That's my only gripe with my WP7.

rev23dev said,
I just think it's irritating that they took away Outlook sync in favor of the Hotmail calendar, which is fine. I moved everything there. But Hotmail insists on Birthdays and Calendars in their own calendar. So if you're going to force this new way on everyone, at least make it work right. That's my only gripe with my WP7.
I don't like that either. I prefer to have one Windows Live calendar with birthdays, events, appointments, etc.

Also, todo lists are a must. They should add it to Windows Live and WP7 ASAP!

Mango is looking not good, but awesome. Hopefully they will release it before fall....

rev23dev said,
I just think it's irritating that they took away Outlook sync in favor of the Hotmail calendar, which is fine. I moved everything there. But Hotmail insists on Birthdays and Calendars in their own calendar. So if you're going to force this new way on everyone, at least make it work right. That's my only gripe with my WP7.

Their argument is that if you're running Outlook you'd be running Exchange for the back end because after all Outlooks primary purpose is as an Exchange client first and foremost just as Lotus Notes is a client for Lotus Domino from day one with support of anything else being a co-incidence rather than by design.

If you're running Outlook they'll assume you're in an enterprise environment using a Exchange server that is locally hosted or provided by Microsoft and when it comes to consumers they'll assume that you're running Windows Live Mail and synchronising mail, calendaring, contacts etc. with the Windows Live Services.

Mr Nom Nom's said,

Their argument is that if you're running Outlook you'd be running Exchange for the back end because after all Outlooks primary purpose is as an Exchange client first and foremost just as Lotus Notes is a client for Lotus Domino from day one with support of anything else being a co-incidence rather than by design.

If you're running Outlook they'll assume you're in an enterprise environment using a Exchange server that is locally hosted or provided by Microsoft and when it comes to consumers they'll assume that you're running Windows Live Mail and synchronising mail, calendaring, contacts etc. with the Windows Live Services.


There is a big difference between "Opinions" and "Assumptions"; Outlook is not just a client for Exchange, it is a stand alone applications and as such used by a huge amount of users.
And this is the reason why till WM 6.5 you had the ability to sync with your desktop.

rev23dev said,
I just think it's irritating that they took away Outlook sync in favor of the Hotmail calendar, which is fine. I moved everything there. But Hotmail insists on Birthdays and Calendars in their own calendar. So if you're going to force this new way on everyone, at least make it work right. That's my only gripe with my WP7.

This I didn't realize. I hope there's a way that I can sync my Thunderbird Calendar to Hotmail then... Sounds like a pain in the butt, but that's where I keep everything for work (And now personal)...

Mr Nom Nom's said,

If you're running Outlook they'll assume you're in an enterprise environment using a Exchange server that is locally hosted or provided by Microsoft and when it comes to consumers they'll assume that you're running Windows Live Mail and synchronising mail, calendaring, contacts etc. with the Windows Live Services.

Well that would be a bad assumption on their part, and I'm pretty sure untrue. I am a small business owner that uses Outlook, but do not need Exchange since it's just me. Even the commercial for Outlook 2010 they have is a guy in my same boat. He says he's self-employeed and uses Outlook -- that's their focus for the commercial and he clearly isn't using Exchange

rev23dev said,
Well that would be a bad assumption on their part, and I'm pretty sure untrue. I am a small business owner that uses Outlook, but do not need Exchange since it's just me. Even the commercial for Outlook 2010 they have is a guy in my same boat. He says he's self-employeed and uses Outlook -- that's their focus for the commercial and he clearly isn't using Exchange

Honest question though, why don't you use Windows Live Mail considering it has Mail, Calendaring, Contacts etc.?

Mr Nom Nom's said,

Honest question though, why don't you use Windows Live Mail considering it has Mail, Calendaring, Contacts etc.?

1) PST Windows Mail are individual message files
2) Tasks/Notes
3) Integration (QuickBooks, GoToMeeting, etc...)

Even if I used Windows Live Mail (which I like by the way, my wife uses it -- if not for the business stuff, I'd use it) this problem with the calendar is still there. It's not an Outlook problem, it's that WP7 doesn't show you the US Holidays or Birthday's calendars associated in Hotmail.

I mean don't get me wrong, I love iOS for it's smoothness. Everything is really streamlined etc but I think after 4 years of the same looking layout and the way it works, I just find alternatives more appealing.
WP7 seems to have what I mainly want which is not jutteryness when moving around and consistency which is something I longed from Android but even after having dual core CPU's and tons of RAM, it still can't help but hesitate in something as simple as moving around the homescreen.

I just hope the Marketplace has some decent Apps like Whatsapp or Sky Sports News/Score Centre etc.

emzino said,
I mean don't get me wrong, I love iOS for it's smoothness. Everything is really streamlined etc but I think after 4 years of the same looking layout and the way it works, I just find alternatives more appealing.
WP7 seems to have what I mainly want which is not jutteryness when moving around and consistency which is something I longed from Android but even after having dual core CPU's and tons of RAM, it still can't help but hesitate in something as simple as moving around the homescreen.

I just hope the Marketplace has some decent Apps like Whatsapp or Sky Sports News/Score Centre etc.


The Marketplace is growing as we speak. You can easily follow the Marketplace contents using Bing on http://www.bing.com/browse?g=w...+7+apps&FORM=Z7FD#toc=4 (using the US version)

emzino said,
WP7 looking good.

Might be moving on from iOS to this soon...

I never owned an iPhone (just a touch) and while the organization of apps is slightly better in iOS, after using a Focus for 6 months I could never go back to iOS for anything.

Microsoft did not leak these screenshots, neither did an MVP (they wouldn't even have the build).

One of the changes Microsoft implemented since the NoDo fiasco is allowing carriers access to builds during their development in order to speed up testing and therefore deployment. Obviously once a build leaves the Microsoft campus leaks are inevitable, hence the screenshots.

SoyoS said,
Microsoft did not leak these screenshots, neither did an MVP (they wouldn't even have the build).

One of the changes Microsoft implemented since the NoDo fiasco is allowing carriers access to builds during their development in order to speed up testing and therefore deployment. Obviously once a build leaves the Microsoft campus leaks are inevitable, hence the screenshots.


You can't seriously believe Microsoft didn't "accidentally" leak these?

Owen W said,
You can't seriously believe Microsoft didn't "accidentally" leak these?

Doubtful - they've pretty much now adopted the Apple mantra of things only leaving Microsoft once they're 99% complete so that they don't over promise and under deliver in the case of Windows Vista.

Microsoft has chosen to take the middle road where they want information to be out there to partners but at the same time they want any announcement to have a huge splash once it hits the airwaves. Mango is being geared up as a massive launch because there are at least another 1/2 dozen OEM's who will be jumping on to WP7 for the first time - this is a massive direction changing launch that needs to be managed very carefully right up till launch day.

Mr Nom Nom's said,

Doubtful - they've pretty much now adopted the Apple mantra of things only leaving Microsoft once they're 99% complete so that they don't over promise and under deliver in the case of Windows Vista.

Microsoft has chosen to take the middle road where they want information to be out there to partners but at the same time they want any announcement to have a huge splash once it hits the airwaves. Mango is being geared up as a massive launch because there are at least another 1/2 dozen OEM's who will be jumping on to WP7 for the first time - this is a massive direction changing launch that needs to be managed very carefully right up till launch day.


You are so far from right. Carriers don't have this build yet, so where did it come from then?

Mr Nom Nom's said,

Doubtful - they've pretty much now adopted the Apple mantra of things only leaving Microsoft once they're 99% complete so that they don't over promise and under deliver in the case of Windows Vista.

Microsoft has chosen to take the middle road where they want information to be out there to partners but at the same time they want any announcement to have a huge splash once it hits the airwaves. Mango is being geared up as a massive launch because there are at least another 1/2 dozen OEM's who will be jumping on to WP7 for the first time - this is a massive direction changing launch that needs to be managed very carefully right up till launch day.

And who's to say these things that are being leaked aren't already finished? That seems to make sense to me, as they leak a little here and there, perhaps it's as they finish them... This sounds to be a huge update. I'm really looking forward to it.

SoyoS said,
Microsoft did not leak these screenshots, neither did an MVP (they wouldn't even have the build).

One of the changes Microsoft implemented since the NoDo fiasco is allowing carriers access to builds during their development in order to speed up testing and therefore deployment. Obviously once a build leaves the Microsoft campus leaks are inevitable, hence the screenshots.

I hadn't heard that anywhere and honestly can't imagine the carriers testing a pre-release build and speeding up deployment of a final release as a result (Knowing that there have been numerous changes...)... I just don't think that would EVER work...

Owen W said,
You are so far from right. Carriers don't have this build yet, so where did it come from then?

From OEM's - you know, the people who make the phones, or do you believe that carriers have a massive workshop where little elves put together phones specially for them?

Wow, with these new announcements and Visual Voicemail and everything, this is going to be a huge update. I hope they can allow chatting with people on other services though, like AIM and Yahoo, as you never know what people are going to be using... And an easy way to turn this on and off would be a necessity. I can't stand IM's on my phone when I'm not looking for them... lol

If Game Sync is opened up to 3rd party developers for the Xbox 360/Windows, it could bring WP7 to the forefront of Mobile gaming.

Omen1393 said,
If Game Sync is opened up to 3rd party developers for the Xbox 360/Windows, it could bring WP7 to the forefront of Mobile gaming.

I'm wondering whether the saved games & settings sync is just conjecture on Owen's part - I haven't seen anywhere confirm this, though I could be mistaken as I haven't pried into it. I would have though it were more likely that it's just background syncing for achievements, messages and friend's status.

I'd imagine they wouldn't want to do *too* much data hungry syncing.

~Johnny said,

I'm wondering whether the saved games & settings sync is just conjecture on Owen's part - I haven't seen anywhere confirm this, though I could be mistaken as I haven't pried into it. I would have though it were more likely that it's just background syncing for achievements, messages and friend's status.

I'd imagine they wouldn't want to do *too* much data hungry syncing.

Well Mango is bringing socket support which means that real-time multiplayer games will be possible. All the features that developers can tap into were supposedly announced at mix, so I'm starting to doubt that there will be third party access to an Xbox sync, but maybe the Xbox Live titles for WP7 will have the ability to sync with Xbox Live games.

Omen1393 said,

Well Mango is bringing socket support which means that real-time multiplayer games will be possible. All the features that developers can tap into were supposedly announced at mix, so I'm starting to doubt that there will be third party access to an Xbox sync, but maybe the Xbox Live titles for WP7 will have the ability to sync with Xbox Live games.

Real time multiplayer over 3G would probably give game developers shudders