WP7: Turn by Turn navigation shown off on video

Hot off the heels of the Windows Phone 7 "Mango" event today -- which was eerily missing turn by turn navigation from the announcement -- a video of the feature in action has leaked, confirming the navigation upgrade for the platform.

The turn-by-turn navigation appears to contain voice based directions and auto-recalculates based on the journey changes.

The video comes from the Mango emulator which was released with the SDK today, and appears to work but is still very buggy. Is the Windows Phone 7 "Mango" emulator unlocked already? 

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C'mon.. This thing is (a) Beta and (b) an emulator on (c) the Mango OS that is not even out yet. Kudos for being this far in the development. As a developer I know that this is just a proof of concept (and so should you techie) functionality that may be native to Mango or available/extensible via an app. You can't compare it with a final product already on the market of rival OSes. One thing is for sure Mango is a game changer and will bring Windows Phone in one of the top spots for mobile OS. I have to say that Mango makes all the other OS look like also-ran with so many features native to the OS while the other need a heap of apps for that. There is where the difference lies.

That was wholly uninspiring. The route-list didn't auto scroll, top down with no rotation, very poor voice synthesis... Sat nav from 2003 maybe! This is the best WP7 has to offer?

njlouch said,
That was wholly uninspiring. The route-list didn't auto scroll, top down with no rotation, very poor voice synthesis... Sat nav from 2003 maybe! This is the best WP7 has to offer?

beta.....

njlouch said,
That was wholly uninspiring. The route-list didn't auto scroll, top down with no rotation, very poor voice synthesis... Sat nav from 2003 maybe! This is the best WP7 has to offer?

For some people this is more than enough. On my Nexus S, the only time I ever looked at the nav screen was when I was showing the app off to other people. During actual use, the screen was off and it's only purpose was to tell me when to turn.

ZeroHour said,

beta.....

Why is it that Google's stuff is always in beta and it still looks better than that crap shown off. Seriously, keep it under wraps until it's something decent. But Microsoft gets points for developing a navigation app. Apple is been out for 4 years with a "smartphone" and they can't do that yet?

That was one of the selling points for me when I switched from BlackBerry to Android.

UndergroundWire said,

Why is it that Google's stuff is always in beta and it still looks better than that crap shown off. Seriously, keep it under wraps until it's something decent. But Microsoft gets points for developing a navigation app. Apple is been out for 4 years with a "smartphone" and they can't do that yet?

That was one of the selling points for me when I switched from BlackBerry to Android.

Google keeps things in "beta" because they can't seem to grasp the idea behind version numbers. *cough*chrome*cough*

This is just the emulator ffs, it has options in there just like other turn-by-turn navs do but they're not working atm because in this case it really IS a beta.

geoken said,

For some people this is more than enough. On my Nexus S, the only time I ever looked at the nav screen was when I was showing the app off to other people. During actual use, the screen was off and it's only purpose was to tell me when to turn.

That's you. That's not what 99% of other nav systems do.

geoken said,
On my Nexus S, the only time I ever looked at the nav screen was when I was showing the app off to other people. During actual use, the screen was off and it's only purpose was to tell me when to turn.

That's called having a T-Mobile service plan. On my old Droid Incredible (3G Service) and my current HTC Thunderbolt (4G Service), both work and act very fast and accurate.

njlouch said,

Not an excuse. If you want to show it off, make it worth showing off.

Did you miss the part where it said that this is from emulator? In other words, this was NOT shown by Microsoft. Someone found this in hidden in the emulator.

dhan said,

Did you miss the part where it said that this is from emulator? In other words, this was NOT shown by Microsoft. Someone found this in hidden in the emulator.

Don't bring logic into this, some people can't handle it it seems.

since when is neowin so pro wp7? im getting tired of seeing all of these stories on these phones. how about talking about the evo3d which was announced today to have a locked/encrypted bootloader. do you guys get kickbacks from microsoft or something?

smooth3006 said,
since when is neowin so pro wp7? im getting tired of seeing all of these stories on these phones. how about talking about the evo3d which was announced today to have a locked/encrypted bootloader. do you guys get kickbacks from microsoft or something?

Haha, brilliant...........neoWIN!!!

Lol at the droidboy, feeling threaten by wp7? It's call neoWIN for starter not neodroid. All in fairness the evo3d is alright. Though android OS is heavy and need at least dual core to function somewhat smoothly at the cost of battery life. WP7 is buttery smooth even on a low end chip at the benefit of longer battery life. Your pick.

flexkeyboard said,
Lol at the droidboy, feeling threaten by wp7? It's call neoWIN for starter not neodroid. All in fairness the evo3d is alright. Though android OS is heavy and need at least dual core to function somewhat smoothly at the cost of battery life. WP7 is buttery smooth even on a low end chip at the benefit of longer battery life. Your pick.

wp7 doesn't scare me at all since it won't even dent the market. im just starting to think there's a reason neowin posts so many stories on this phone, that's all we see on the front page... mix it up a bit.

duddit2 said,

Haha, brilliant...........neoWIN!!!

funny as neowin used to talk about other operating systems as well, just not microsoft based.

smooth3006 said,
since when is neowin so pro wp7? im getting tired of seeing all of these stories on these phones. how about talking about the evo3d which was announced today to have a locked/encrypted bootloader. do you guys get kickbacks from microsoft or something?

We accept no kickbacks. You know Neowin is primarily MICROSOFT focused right? We have ALOT of Windows Phone 7 coverage today because the Mango launch is big news. Just as we covered alot of android at Google IO events!

smooth3006 said,
since when is neowin so pro wp7? im getting tired of seeing all of these stories on these phones. how about talking about the evo3d which was announced today to have a locked/encrypted bootloader. do you guys get kickbacks from microsoft or something?

This is a big event. It's extensive coverage isn't exclusive to Neowin, pretty much every tech blog was live blogging it and they all had multiple stories on it.

You really think that an announcement of some inane hardware feature on one of the 4k android phones released per week is on the same level as a major announcement about an entire OS.

smooth3006 said,
since when is neowin so pro wp7? im getting tired of seeing all of these stories on these phones. how about talking about the evo3d which was announced today to have a locked/encrypted bootloader. do you guys get kickbacks from microsoft or something?

Seriously? Go to AndroidCentral.com, Droid-life.com, etc.. Let Microsoft have it's time to shine. Trust me, I hate WP7 like any normal person and love Android, but the site is called NeoWin for a reason.

smooth3006 said,

wp7 doesn't scare me at all since it won't even dent the market. im just starting to think there's a reason neowin posts so many stories on this phone, that's all we see on the front page... mix it up a bit.


so you're going to be scare when wp7 literally engulf the smartphone market with Nokia? droidboys are just sad if they feel this way, neeed to get themselves laid really bad. It's only a phone, and you have a life to live

smooth3006 said,
since when is neowin so pro wp7? im getting tired of seeing all of these stories on these phones. how about talking about the evo3d which was announced today to have a locked/encrypted bootloader. do you guys get kickbacks from microsoft or something?

How come there were so many news on Google after Google I/O?

We need to stop focusing on Google /s

UndergroundWire said,

Seriously? Go to AndroidCentral.com, Droid-life.com, etc.. Let Microsoft have it's time to shine. Trust me, I hate WP7 like any normal person and love Android, but the site is called NeoWin for a reason.

Nice subtle way of being an ass. Because people who don't give a crap about Android and like something else aren't "normal" now?

GP007 said,
Nice subtle way of being an ass. Because people who don't give a crap about Android and like something else aren't "normal" now?

Your the ass. Android OS is the number 1 selling mobile OS. WP7 is all the way at the bottom.

The vast majority of people that are buying smartphones are people who buy Android or iOS. Sorry if the truth makes me seem like an ass but that's the norm these days.

Normal: according with, constituting, or not deviating from a norm, rule, or principle.

http://goo.gl/VK65b

UndergroundWire said,

Your the ass. Android OS is the number 1 selling mobile OS. WP7 is all the way at the bottom.
...

You mean, "You're the ass."

UndergroundWire said,

Your the ass. Android OS is the number 1 selling mobile OS. WP7 is all the way at the bottom.

The vast majority of people that are buying smartphones are people who buy Android or iOS. Sorry if the truth makes me seem like an ass but that's the norm these days.

http://goo.gl/VK65b

Your retarded comment has little to do with who's number one sales wise, the majority of phones still sold are cheap feature phones and not smartphone so I guess the normal thing to do is keep buying feature/dumb phones right?

It's probably not finished yet. I've got it to say "Turn left in X miles" once, and it reads some street names with TTS. In the options, there is a setting for voice guidance, and there's a setting for the map to turn with your driving direction, even though both don't work yet. This SDK and emulator are mainly for developers to test their new applications, which means that the things developers need are probably mostly finished. Microsoft's own applications, like Maps, probably need more work, but hey, they're not even supposed to be available in this build, and they've got a few more months to finish everything, which should be more than enough.

By the way, the emulator is not unlocked, but you can access features like this one and the marketplace (even though you can't install) easily from the search button. Just start your emulator, hit the (hardware) search button, enter an adress and you can test out maps and navigation. No need to unlock it!

That's not turn by turn. Turn by turn is like, "in 300 feet, make a right" and AUTO recalculating. You also should not need to scroll that directions list.

IMO, that is totally not adequate for driving.

Ryan Hoffman said,
That's not turn by turn. Turn by turn is like, "in 300 feet, make a right" and AUTO recalculating. You also should not need to scroll that directions list.

IMO, that is totally not adequate for driving.


It has voice dictation... and auto recalculates

Owen W said,

It has voice dictation... and auto recalculates

That's why it says, "Your off route, tap anywhere to recalculate"...

Tapping != auto.

Google Navigation is much better.

Ryan Hoffman said,
That's not turn by turn. Turn by turn is like, "in 300 feet, make a right" and AUTO recalculating. You also should not need to scroll that directions list.

IMO, that is totally not adequate for driving.

I don't think it will be like that on the devices, it seems like something fishy with the emulator. However, that may be why they didn't mention it. Perhaps an update to the tools will come. They have a great turn-by-turn navigation in the Bing app on Windows Mobile. This would definitely be inadequate.

Ryan Hoffman said,
That's not turn by turn.
IMO, that is totally not adequate for driving.

Im pretty sure this is going to be improved.... Its probobly just there to tell people its gonna be there. As for it, i do not think its perfect and it does look like they are going to tweak it, and it does seem to tell you where to go some of the time - Id think MS would implement it to tell you every turn and more information on when the turn is etc etc....Im not putting a price on it now when it is 5ish months away. Would like to see improvements though to be honest.

wixostrix said,

I don't think it will be like that on the devices, it seems like something fishy with the emulator. However, that may be why they didn't mention it. Perhaps an update to the tools will come.

This is probably closest to the truth. It is an emulated beta build which was only released to allow developers to test the new extended API and nothing more...