WP7 update 'NoDo' shipping on new phones in India

Microsoft is about to release a new update for Windows Phone 7 called 'Nodo' which Neowin believes will ship in early March. But information is now surfacing claiming that the update may already be live on new Windows Phone 7 devices.

WpCentral is reporting that a new Dell Venue Pro that was purchased in India already has the update applied. The source states:

"My friend just picked up a new Dell Venue Pro in India. And it has the NoDo (copy-paste) update already applied! The moment I saw the copy icon appearing on his phone, I yelled and started trying it out! Works exactly as advertised and in the emulator."

With the update expected in the very near future, it shouldn't come as a surprise that new hardware already has the update. If Microsoft is mandating that all new devices come with the update, it should help prevent fragmentation that Android currently experiences.

The 'NoDo' update will bring, among other things, copy and paste functionality to the platform, overall speed improvements, and other tweaks to help improve the end user experience. Microsoft is pushing the WP7 platform with nearly everything it has with a $500 million advertising campaign. Add to that the recent deal with Nokia, and Microsoft is playing to win.  

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Seems Samsung wont/havent released the newer firmware update for Omnia 7 that's been doing the rounds on the internet - I was hoping that they'd release it officially with support prior to the new MS WP7 OS updates...Samsung are cack...Microsoft are not to blame/ anything to do with this update I am talking about here. Pull your finger out Samsung!!

DKcomputers said,
Good idea. Test new features in a 3rd world country before letting it near the phones of important people!

You won't be thinking stuff like that in 5 years the way India is progressing economically, even if you said that in jest...Esp with China already bankrolling the USA to the tune of billions if not trillions of dollars!!!

(Even UK has to start worrying bout this)

why is copy/paste such a difficult thing to implement on mobile devices? i mean, is it really that complex or an edge-use-case that you can't have it in an RTM? seriously.

leeoniya said,
why is copy/paste such a difficult thing to implement on mobile devices? i mean, is it really that complex or an edge-use-case that you can't have it in an RTM? seriously.

AFAIK this is to do with Silverlight not supporting Copy and Paste in the version forked for WP7. Its the classic story in software engineering of not wanting to take a dependency on something that is not ready yet.

leeoniya said,
why is copy/paste such a difficult thing to implement on mobile devices? i mean, is it really that complex or an edge-use-case that you can't have it in an RTM? seriously.

Tell that to Apple and Android as well

leeoniya said,
why is copy/paste such a difficult thing to implement on mobile devices? i mean, is it really that complex or an edge-use-case that you can't have it in an RTM? seriously.
. According to Paul Thurrot the update was RTM in December but for some unknown reasons carriers or manufacturers blocked it.

astroX said,

Tell that to Apple and Android as well

No I ask it to MS.... I had it, together with many other missed features, on my HD2 WM 6.5.3 ......

Fritzly said,

No I ask it to MS.... I had it, together with many other missed features, on my HD2 WM 6.5.3 ......


Delay a project (and suffer the wrath of your shareholders) for a feature which is rarely used or release it and add said feature (and others) later? I would chose the latter ...

leeoniya said,
why is copy/paste such a difficult thing to implement on mobile devices? i mean, is it really that complex or an edge-use-case that you can't have it in an RTM? seriously.

Here's an answer from "WhiteNiteLite" @ Engadget:

WiteNiteLite
Pretty hard actually. Everything on the phone is sandboxed. App A can't talk to App B. They're all confined to a small "jail cell" to maximize the overall security (jailbreaking defeats this system). Copy and paste goes against the security model because it allows information to travel from App A to App B. So it has to be implemented in such a way that the overall security is maintained.

It's a lot harder to do when coding it out..

Doesn't really seem very simple if you want to make sure the stability and security of the system isn't effected.

georgevella said,

Delay a project (and suffer the wrath of your shareholders) for a feature which is rarely used or release it and add said feature (and others) later? I would chose the latter ...

Rarely used..... in your opinion.......
I use it all the time.......

Fritzly said,

Rarely used..... in your opinion.......
I use it all the time.......

I love how people troll every WP7 article with "Why would it take so long to do copy and paste" as if it took that long. lol Why troll a topic with the same thing all the time, even when the update is coming out? What will it be when all WP7 phones have copy and paste?

Fritzly said,
I use it all the time.......
If it really was used all the time, and was very important, it would have been implemented earlier. Do not assume that personal circumstances apply to everyone.

jwoodfin09 said,

It stands for No Donut, a slap in the face to Google Android.

Which is a awesome codename as well

dhan said,
"codename"

As I understand Codename "NoDo" is in full "NoDonuts" an obvious zing on Android's "Donut" version update. I think i read somewhere that the update wasn't very substantial (An Android user would have to confirm this) so MS are just taking a stab at it....and why the hell not?

@Brando212 It's been ready since XMAS apparently but they have been thoroughly testing it and I also think they decided to add some additional tweaking to the performance which extended the build/test time.

carmatic said,
what kind of name is 'NoDo' , anyway?

Someone at MS said it was because a guy failed to bring donuts to a meeting...

jwoodfin09 said,

It stands for No Donut, a slap in the face to Google Android.

I could be mistaken but I thought that I read that they named it "NoDo" because the manager forgot the donuts to the naming meeting.

jwoodfin09 said,

It stands for No Donut, a slap in the face to Google Android.

the next update is called mango btw...... lol

guru said,

the next update is called mango btw...... lol

Mango might not be the next update, it is just the next known update. Mango is one of those planned massive yearly updates, there is a possibility for other NoDo style updates before then

Brando212 said,
why are they just now adding copy/paste functionality?!?

Hmmm let's see... took MS ~4 months after RTM. Took Apple... ah never mind, you can find it for yourself if you want to.

Ideally it would have been there at RTM, I'll agree. But this is not bad at all.

BigBoy said,

Hmmm let's see... took MS ~4 months after RTM. Took Apple... ah never mind, you can find it for yourself if you want to.

Ideally it would have been there at RTM, I'll agree. But this is not bad at all.


true it took apple a long time as well but my point is, Microsoft once again is the last to implement a feature, a simple yet useful one at that

Brando212 said,
why are they just now adding copy/paste functionality?!?

Maybe because they didn't finish by the time, and they wanted to release WP7 devices before Christmas. Once copy/paste wasn't that big of a deal, it was put back to be included for the 1st update.

Brando212 said,

true it took apple a long time as well but my point is, Microsoft once again is the last to implement a feature, a simple yet useful one at that

How are they "last"? Windows Mobile had copy/paste from day 1. Years before first iPhone was released. And more years before iPhone got copy/paste.
And they obviously arent slowest since Apple was 4+ times slower.
Where do you get all those ridiculous sentences from?

MissingBonobo said,
Kind of lame to let the OEMs release it before the rest of us could get it IMO.

Well, we're going to get it in a week or so, if phones selling now just got it then that's not really an issue, it's not like newer phones have been shipping with it for, say, months even though the update itself has been ready for months it seems. Damn carriers!

MissingBonobo said,
Kind of lame to let the OEMs release it before the rest of us could get it IMO.

Are you accustomed to getting things before or at the same time as OEMs?

Neb Okla said,

Are you accustomed to getting things before or at the same time as OEMs?

No, I would just like to see it being rolled out to EVERYONE at the same time.

I'm glad it's on the way though.

Neb Okla said,

Are you accustomed to getting things before or at the same time as OEMs?

No, I would just like to see it being rolled out to EVERYONE at the same time.

I'm glad it's on the way though.