Xbox Live mandatory update rolls out November 1st

Microsoft's next update to the Xbox Dashboard has been offered to beta testers, shown off in videos, and very soon it will be open to the public. A recent email from Microsoft has come bearing details about the new update which will begin to be pushed out to consoles on November 1st.

The new update brings the Metro UI to the Xbox 360, creating a flat look, but fluid motions and even spots that appear to "pop." Many Kinect specific features also come, such as all of the configuration information and channels related to the motion-based controller. The update is mandatory, meaning if you decline to update you will lose Xbox Live ability, most likely due to the incompatibilities between the old Dashboard and the new Dashboard like an updated Party Chat. You will still be able to use the offline features of your Xbox 360 however. 

Coming with this update are also updates to Zune, Netflix, Facebook, Twitter, Last.fm, and adding the streaming of anything and everything ESPN right to your Xbox. This will bring an on-demand sports coverage to the dashboard. While the email does not mention these new services specifically, the image above which is located at the end of the email certainly suggests that these features will all come with the November 1st update.

With the recent amount of updates to the beta Dashboard, including a welcome tutorial, it is obvious that Microsoft feels very ready to dish out their all new Dashboard. Other basic questions can be answered by referring to the email from Microsoft. Sign into Xbox Live on November 1st to download and apply the update. 

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New feature, picking up the Windows 7 Default share media files (across network).
However I do have Home Group media sharing and its not seeing those.
Just those found in the Shared folders.

This is outside media center.

for anyone with a moded console... DO NOT update otherwise Fable3 will NOT work along with most other new games coming out as AP25 and SSv3 checks are in place.

it will stop Fable3 from working etc.

so basically most users will have to wait for a new version of firmware for your drive before updating otherwise most new games will probably stop working entirely from a backup disc. originals still work fine from what i been reading though on current LT firmware.

For those that didn't sign up for the beta, once you download this dashboard (especially if you're in dim light) be prepared to put on a dark pair of sunglasses when you hit the guide button, lol.

Marshall said,
For those that didn't sign up for the beta, once you download this dashboard (especially if you're in dim light) be prepared to put on a dark pair of sunglasses when you hit the guide button, lol.

It isn't that bad. I play in the dark all the time.

shinji257 said,

It isn't that bad. I play in the dark all the time.


Same here. People just need to adjust their picture settings.

I'm guessing it's Nov 2 here in Oz, since it's Nov 1 already here and no sign of the update be interesting to see how many of the new services we get here (not many I wager) and please stop calling it "Metro UI"!! Metro is a set of design guidelines not a UI.

IM just glad MS found a way to cache the market place and not have slow loading every tie you re-open the market place

Bring on the final product

XTC2005 said,
my only question is how many of these services are going to be only available if you subscribe to xbox live.

I imagine most if not all of them will be gold members only

phunkymunky said,
is last.fm support finally coming to australia?
No idea, MS aren't very forthcoming with what other regions are getting. All I do know is Australia is getting Foxtel through Xbox Live (if we have it already I haven't seen it...) beyond that, your guess is as good as mine.

Astra.Xtreme said,

You will have to pay for it though. It's not free ESPN, fyi.

Um, pretty sure it is free, as stated by Microsoft, for all Gold (subscribing members) of XBox Live. I heard that some content may vary based on ISP restrictions with live broadcasts and some on demand content.

At the very least I think everyone will get a lot of good on demand content of previously aired events, so if you missed the xxx college game, it should be available to virtually everyone.

Examinus said,
This is a terrible update. The whole UI looks like an early alpha of the current dashboard.

I sort of agree but I don't see it as such a bad thing. My only problem is the bright white guide - if I'm playing in a dark room, it's blinding.

what said,

I sort of agree but I don't see it as such a bad thing. My only problem is the bright white guide - if I'm playing in a dark room, it's blinding.

Same. I actually prefer the beta dashboard to the one on 9199. Though the guide and other UI elements having a "flat matte" look is really dumb and the white/green kills my eyes in a dark setting.

Examinus said,
This is a terrible update. The whole UI looks like an early alpha of the current dashboard.

The UI is intentionally a bit more 'Metro/WP7ish', although it does look 'flat' compared to the last Dashboard. However, some of the changes that we see as 'flat' are also behind some of the performance improvements and how content is handled in the tiles for a better experience overall.

At first the 'flat' feeling was a bit disheartening, but after using it for a while, more and more things started to make sense, especially when you start to use Netflix or the Zune store or some of the other updated Dashboard applications, and the consistency the new UI creates.

Using the Metro concepts of the new Dashboard in Netflix, for example, really pays off, when you are accessing movies and shows and episodes and you find things are easier to get to and more information is displayed at first glance.

I think after the initial, 'hmm flat' thoughts, people will find it works better at displaying content overall.

Plus the speed difference and the newer tile previews are worth the changes.

I almsot thought it looked to minimalistic, but it definitely grows on you. It looks super responsive.

majg said,
I almsot thought it looked to minimalistic, but it definitely grows on you. It looks super responsive.
The current dashboard is pretty laggy sometimes, so I'm hoping this one is much faster. When I press the center button on the controller and then click Party Chat, it's kinda slow to open. I'm hoping this has been sped up.

Chaltalian said,
I'm really looking forward to this update for my 360!

I'm looking forward to my Kinect that will arrive in 10 days time more

TCLN Ryster said,

I'm looking forward to my Kinect that will arrive in 10 days time more
Haha! Be sure to let me know how you like it on my profile. Kinect looks really awesome, but I think I'll stick to my controller for now.

I am a beta tester so I have most of the updates, there are three glaring issues for me.

1. There seems to be no Zune interface between the computer and the Zune on the Xbox. So I can't browse the music on my pc, on the Zune interface on the XBOX. This seems bizarre to me. Especially since there IS an option on the Zune software on the PC to share with the XBOX.

2. If my math is correct, I can download an entire season of a show for around 2800 "points". Thats about $20. That seems like an obsene amount to me.

3. When browsing through the litereally HUNDREDS of ESPN available sports events. I can only flip through a scrolling list; left to right, ONE at a time. WTF? Even a "sea of icons" would be better than that. This to me is the most glaring issue of all. How is anyone supposed to find a sporting event flipping through the channels one at a time?!!! This is BIZARRE, big time bizarre.

jimmyfal said,
I am a beta tester so I have most of the updates, there are three glaring issues for me.

1. There seems to be no Zune interface between the computer and the Zune on the Xbox. So I can't browse the music on my pc, on the Zune interface on the XBOX. This seems bizarre to me. Especially since there IS an option on the Zune software on the PC to share with the XBOX.

2. If my math is correct, I can download an entire season of a show for around 2800 "points". Thats about $20. That seems like an obsene amount to me.

3. When browsing through the litereally HUNDREDS of ESPN available sports events. I can only flip through a scrolling list; left to right, ONE at a time. WTF? Even a "sea of icons" would be better than that. This to me is the most glaring issue of all. How is anyone supposed to find a sporting event flipping through the channels one at a time?!!! This is BIZARRE, big time bizarre.

Where can you buy a whole season of TV on DVD for less than $20 for newish shows?

jimmyfal said,
I am a beta tester so I have most of the updates, there are three glaring issues for me.

1. There seems to be no Zune interface between the computer and the Zune on the Xbox. So I can't browse the music on my pc, on the Zune interface on the XBOX. This seems bizarre to me. Especially since there IS an option on the Zune software on the PC to share with the XBOX.

Yes there, that is called Windows Media Center. Zune shares the same library as Windows Media Center. So if you go to Windows Media Center from your XBOX you can listen to/watch the content of your Zune library.

jimmyfal said,
2. If my math is correct, I can download an entire season of a show for around 2800 "points". Thats about $20. That seems like an obsene amount to me.

If by "obscene" you mean high, then have you ever bought a hard copy of show's entire season? You're looking at a good $40 at least. Theres about 20 eps. in a season, so thats a good buck an ep. I'd say thats more than fair considering music vids are 99 pts.

jimmyfal said,

2. If my math is correct, I can download an entire season of a show for around 2800 "points". Thats about $20. That seems like an obsene amount to me.

2800 points = $35. About what you'd pay on Amazon for a series dvd set .

bob_c_b said,

Where can you buy a whole season of TV on DVD for less than $20 for newish shows?


ASDA here are selling outnumbered for £5 or so per season.

jimmyfal said,
I am a beta tester so I have most of the updates, there are three glaring issues for me.

1. There seems to be no Zune interface between the computer and the Zune on the Xbox. So I can't browse the music on my pc, on the Zune interface on the XBOX. This seems bizarre to me. Especially since there IS an option on the Zune software on the PC to share with the XBOX.


Not true at all. Even the current NXE/Xbox OS allows you to access music, video, and pictures from other PCs. In fact, if you install the Zune software your music is accessible in 3 different places on the Xbox: Windows File Sharing (network) places an entry under Music Library in My Xbox, Windows Media Center Extender, and the Zune software creates an additional sharing service on the PC that also appears in Music Library on the Xbox.

n_K said,

ASDA here are selling outnumbered for £5 or so per season.

Not every TV show ever produced is a high amount. Outnumbered for example wasn't a prime time show nor was it extremely popular compared to shows, such as; The Inbetweeners or Lost.

Rookas said,

2800 points = $35. About what you'd pay on Amazon for a series dvd set .

With no extras, questionable quality, inferior FF/REW, no ability to take it between devices, etc.

I'd take the DVD every time, and now that a lot of shows are coming out on Blu-ray it's not even a contest.

If I can open Zune on my PC, and see my collection, it seems logical that I should open Zune on the XBOX and see my collection. If I wanted to do it through media center I would. i like the Zune interface. I want to use it on the Xbox. That is my point. Is that not logical?

xpxp2002 said,

Not true at all. Even the current NXE/Xbox OS allows you to access music, video, and pictures from other PCs. In fact, if you install the Zune software your music is accessible in 3 different places on the Xbox: Windows File Sharing (network) places an entry under Music Library in My Xbox, Windows Media Center Extender, and the Zune software creates an additional sharing service on the PC that also appears in Music Library on the Xbox.

Rookas said,

2800 points = $35. About what you'd pay on Amazon for a series dvd set .

Well I have Comcast, and I can tape the whole series and watch if for free with my DVR. So this is for people who want to watch TV series over and over. Ok, I guess I just like to watch stuff once and I'm done with it. I get it I guess. I'd rather have the option of watching it for free, with all the ads on the screen anytime I want.

jimmyfal said,
I am a beta tester so I have most of the updates, there are three glaring issues for me.

1. There seems to be no Zune interface between the computer and the Zune on the Xbox. So I can't browse the music on my pc, on the Zune interface on the XBOX. This seems bizarre to me. Especially since there IS an option on the Zune software on the PC to share with the XBOX.

2. If my math is correct, I can download an entire season of a show for around 2800 "points". Thats about $20. That seems like an obsene amount to me.

3. When browsing through the litereally HUNDREDS of ESPN available sports events. I can only flip through a scrolling list; left to right, ONE at a time. WTF? Even a "sea of icons" would be better than that. This to me is the most glaring issue of all. How is anyone supposed to find a sporting event flipping through the channels one at a time?!!! This is BIZARRE, big time bizarre.

1) You browse your PC Music via the My XBox Music Library, there is no need for the Zune software on the XBox to do this, and yes this includes the Zune Pass content. This has been there as long as Zune and Vista have been around. The Zune Software on the XBox is a way to stream, browse, or buy music from the Zune Market, it wasn't meant to replace the XBox Music Library interface that does network sharing of Music and Video.

2) The price isn't out of line, in fact is cheaper than buying the DVD or BluRay version of the Shows/Movies most of the time, also includes the extras from the DVDs/BluRay, and is provided in 1080p/5.1 that is available to you at any computer or XBox you want to sign into. So no matter where you are, if you have a computer or XBox and internet, you have your Movie/TV collection with you.

3) Search...


PS The majority of the Dashboard update is for the Kinect, with some new avatar features for later on and a few new features like Zune Music access and merging of the XBox store and the Zune store (for the WP7 release coordination), and newer versions of things like Netflix that also support the Kinect for navigation and control.

darkthunder said,
Is this mandatory update on November 1st applicable to both the US and EU, or only the US?

Well obviously it's got to be world wide. They can't very well update one group of Xboxs before an other. The old and new dashboards are not compatible with each other in terms of communications, so they'd be cutting half the world off from the other half if they did that. (slight exaggeration, but you know what I mean).

TCLN Ryster said,

Well obviously it's got to be world wide. They can't very well update one group of Xboxs before an other. The old and new dashboards are not compatible with each other in terms of communications, so they'd be cutting half the world off from the other half if they did that. (slight exaggeration, but you know what I mean).

Actually that wouldn't be quite true. Voice Message and Group Chat wasn't compatible. In-Game chat worked fine.