Xbox One must connect online every 24 hours for gaming, offline gaming restricted

If you want to play games on your Xbox One console when it launches later this year, you are required to have an Internet connection. That's the official word from Microsoft in a new blog post that talks about the online features of its next Xbox hardware.

The Xbox Wire blog states that while the Xbox One does not need an "always on" connection to play games, gamers will still need some kind of Internet service to play games for longer than a day. The blog states:

With Xbox One you can game offline for up to 24 hours on your primary console, or one hour if you are logged on to a separate console accessing your library. Offline gaming is not possible after these prescribed times until you re-establish a connection, but you can still watch live TV and enjoy Blu-ray and DVD movies.

Microsoft added that any Xbox One games that require a cloud server, such as the just announced Titanfall from Respawn Entertainment, will also require an Internet connection. Add it all up and the days of playing single player game titles offline for as long as you want won't be possible with the Xbox One.

Microsoft added that that the Xbox One will work best with a broadband connection of at least 1.5 Mbps. The Xbox One can also connect to a mobile broadband network, presumably via a WiFi hotspot. The hardware includes a gigabit Ethernet port and two 802.11n wireless antennas that support 5GHz band.

Source: Xbox Wire | Image via Microsoft

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Ill stick with my GB, 3DS (with flashcard), N64, SNES, Commador 64, PC and Atari thanks.

I would not be shocked if this change is reverted before release or shortly after, The big games publishers only have so much pull, wait till the shareholders get a wiff off why the console is no selling, money talks.

As soon as investors find out the reason it is not selling so well things will change.

Xbox one = online connect every 24 hours.
Xboe one dot one (1.1) online connect every two days <--- microsoft listen!.

:-|

Seriously, Bill Gates needs to come back and take a hold of his company..., nothing but bad news coming from them lately

I was quite excited at the prospect of one of these. But the news that has continued to release since the Xbox One was announced has totally and utterly put me off any notion of owning one.

Good job Microsoft. You're on a roll lately.

Is it Microsoft's fault that ISPs, especially in America, have dragged their feet for nearly 2 decades when it comes to rolling out broadband to everyone? Should that then force Microsoft to ditch moving forward technologically with their consoles? If there's anyone users should be yelling at, it's ISPs that have raked in record profits year in and year out all the while not rolling out more and more cable to those lesser populated areas.

Why should it be up to companies like Google to force the big ISPs' hand when it comes to fiber connections? It's been nearly 20 years since I first connected to the internet and there are still vast amounts of people in America - a supposed first world nation - that only have access to dial-up of all things.

It's the 21st century now and, like it or not, we are moving toward an always online, always connected world. To be up-in-arms against Microsoft for embracing this idea and what it can change from the way we watch TV to how we play our video games is anger that could be better used to light a fire under your ISPs ass and begin to offer not only broadband to everyone but faster, more reliable broadband at that.

While I generally agree with your post, Microsoft needs to still cater their customers that have Internet issues. In a perfect world everything you just said would be implemented but its all about the Benjamin's with ISP's.

Holy crap,microsoft shouldn't need force us to connect to the internet once every 24 hours despite the fact that i have internet access. But it's up to me whether or not the internet will be connect to the XBOX 1. It's my internet and i will be the one who decide whether or not it will get online. I own the Xbox One and i will be his boss not you microsoft. Get it?

Maybe once it is released, Microsoft will do a Sony trick, and release a firmware update that removes this "feature", except unlike Sony this will be a welcome removal!!

No thanks. We are not quite at this point yet. Consoles of the future may be like this, maybe when entire houses are 'connected to the web' or something along those lines but for now I don't see this as such a practical thing.

Although I have access to the internet, and a smartphone, but this is yet another nail in the coffin for me and the XB1, I'm not paying for MS to continue stupid ideas like this. Why would it be required? there is absolutely no reason that I can see. Plus the always on kinect, and used game/game swapping restrictions is just a no for me. I dont even understand how people can defend it.

nik louch said,
One VERY strong reason - it will be another potential block for piracy.

See, that's a good thing, HOWEVER they are punishing all users for the sake a few. I don't see how piracy on the Xbox hits them that hard. The Xbox is crippled in terms of online play once chipped. Besides someone will chip the Xbox 1 so it activates itself every 24 hrs.

As always the best way people can protest to this madness is to not purchase the console... but they will anyway.

Once every 24 hours? What, will it forget you're subscriber & cripple access if you don't? TiVo will forget after 30 days, but that makes sense since it has a monthly subscription model. Steam will allow you to play games you own in offline mode.

Welcome to cloud computing / gaming. Sorry, if it's in the cloud, it's not yours. You only have a license to access it per terms & conditions.

Sidenote: Good name for it, eh? Cloud? Clouds obsure things. Why couldn't they have called it the sky? Skies are clear...if they're not clouded.

What an absolute joke, what happens if you don't connect it online... Recently Virgin Media had a problem by us whereby someone cut the cable in the ground and didn't have internet for about 48 hours, what happens then.

It can only be to report back gaming usage and personal data being logged back

The requirement shouldn't really affect me however I am keen to find out why there is this requirement. The only thing that comes to mind is to manage DRM.

This is also what I want to know. Why must it call home once a day? I'm hoping Microsoft can explain in detail the purpose of this. Does it enhance our gaming or entertainment experience?

By the way, where are all the wise-a** know-it-all, I-told-you-so fanboys that were asserting vehemently that this was all a rumour. MARKET RESEARCH people, market research.

pmdci said,
By the way, where are all the wise-a** know-it-all, I-told-you-so fanboys that were asserting vehemently that this was all a rumour. MARKET RESEARCH people, market research.

"100% online, all the time. If the internet goes down then boom your game is toast."

That was the original rumor.

laserfloyd said,

"100% online, all the time. If the internet goes down then boom your game is toast."

That was the original rumor.

And I wouldn't be surprised if MSFT toned the requirements down due to the negative feedbacks it received. This is what I mean by mkt research.

My old PS2 (fat version) is still better in the sense that I can carry it with me wherever I go without relying on any connection whatsoever.
And to the drooling zombies:
- No, not everyone have access to the internet.
- Your crappy country doesn't represent the world; if mobile data plans are cheap in your country, its not the same for the whole world.
- And so on...

I guess this will be like another win 8 start button type situatoni. Eventually they will bow to the pressure and revert it.

I mean I can see why MS wants to do it and for 99% of people in western countries its a non issue. Bu that one time when internet goes out gor a few days and being unable to enjoy a game to kill time is when everyone will be cursing MS.

Edited by Hitman2000, Jun 7 2013, 4:53am :

Hitman2000 said,
I guess this will be like another win 8 start button type situatoni. Eventually they will bow to the pressure and revert it.

Totally agree - I'm starting to dislike the way MS are dictating on how the console industry should work - the good old days of taking a console round your mates house & doing link up's - no internet required etc.. Bring back these days.

Why the actual F$#^ would they do this? This is deadset one of THE stupidest things Microsoft have ever done. What the hell are they thinking? What is this achieving? Locking consumers down into crap like this is ridiculous... 24 hours of offline play, thats not friggin offline you morons thats friggin as good as online. If people have an xbox in a rural place or our at an army base or somewhere not in their frigging home you are telling me I have to suck eggs and aren't allowed to play the games I frigging paid for? I just dont understand what the frigging point of this crap is, actually so frigging short sighted. Sony don't have to even make a decent with any great software features because Microsoft are digging them selves a grave. It would be like saying I have to connect my smartphone to the internet every 24 hours- I wouldn't buy it if this was the case. Locking and tieing down consumers is friggin ridiculous. Although this doesnt really affect me I still dont see why I should be FORCED to have a frigging internet connection.

Please everyone shout at Microsoft, they need to come to their senses and remove this crap- its not helping gamers, heck I dont think its going to help any bloody person.

I'll be staying with my 360 until this crap gets sorted out. Whoever's in charge should seriously be shot- I honestly can't believe this crap.

Agree with everything you just said. Especially the example about military bases in remote locations. I have been deployed 4 times with either no Internet or crappy Internet via satellite. The Xbox is a sanity saver for many troops.

Well, for myself I always have an internet connection... and at a work best rate of 1.5mb/s, its no problem.

My only queef with this is if others will grow some balls and realize this isn't a big deal... Microsoft isn't stupid, and I believe they know every bit of data related to which current 360 owners have internet always, or once in that 24hr period.

auziez said,

I believe they know every bit of data related to which current 360 owners have internet always, or once in that 24hr period.

Well 76 Million xbox 360 consoles sales, and 40 Million xbox live users...
That's 36 Million consoles not online & some of those live subscriptions are for the orginal xbox so it's probably about 50% of 360 owners dont use their console online!

nitroxhotshot said,

Well 76 Million xbox 360 consoles sales, and 40 Million xbox live users...
That's 36 Million consoles not online & some of those live subscriptions are for the orginal xbox so it's probably about 50% of 360 owners dont use their console online!

well ill have to wait for e3 to see exclusives, but it will be interesting to see what happens at launch for both.

All the people complaining about having to be on the internet should stay off the internet so those of us who don't mind connecting our Xbox Ones can game in peace.

It's not about using the internet on the xbox one, it's about being FORCED to use it for no reason and no benefit to you or me, and only serves to restrict offline play when online isn't required at all.

Microsoft just Failed on an EPIC level with this.
That's the news I needed to hear now j can pre order my PS4. Sony will never do this.

Xbox days are over this will NOT sell the only people that are going to but this are the Microsoft employees on neowin website / fourms

Is that true? About the Microsoft employees here? 4 other members here have told me that and advised me not to post anything bad about any Microsoft products here. I was told Neobond gets kickbacks from the Microsoft family to promote its products. Interesting.

JHBrown said,
I was told Neobond gets kickbacks from the Microsoft family to promote its products. Interesting.

Even if this were true, which I doubt, they promote competitor information on Neowin all the time. It can't be too binding of a contract if that were the case.

astropheed said,

Even if this were true, which I doubt, they promote competitor information on Neowin all the time. It can't be too binding of a contract if that were the case.

True

I enjoy how Companies now present their limitations, it's a process really:
1) Announce a terrible 'feature' as a rumour.
2) Withstand backlash, "It might not be true anyways"
3) Wait for it to be annoying for people to complain about
4) Announce the terrible 'feature'.
5) Anyone who complains becomes just another annoying voice.
6) Feature implemented, apologists in place, consumers willing.
7) Rape consumers.
8) Feature becomes standard.

If you complain about said feature, you're just a complainer, and no one will like you.
"You need to stop complaining we basically knew this was gonna happen" (Always On)
"Whatever, I don't do anything wrong on the internet anyways" (Privacy Rights)
"I don't care if they know how many people are in my living-room" (Kinect)
"Who cares that used games don't work, I always buy new anyways" (Used game fees)
"Oh wow a hat!" (0day DLC, preorder)

...
"Everyone has internet anyways, I mean I do, and I'm everyone"

What's next consumers? How much more anal penetration will you take before you ask for some lube?

Anyways, this little voice of mine will do nothing... No one with reason stands a chance in this world anymore; they'll go insane trying to find it to the point that they themselves will lose it.

so what the rationalism for a connecttion every 24 hrs, if you just want to play single-player non-cloud games, and just to re-watch your DVDs collections ?

Watching DVDs or Blu-Rays have no effect with the check in...its only really their for gaming. Infact, you wont notice any difference if all you do is use it for the entertainment stuff. But once you go to play a game, its going to prompt you to connect.

Going a little further with this topic, I really don't like cloud based gaming either. I know the "cool" guys on here will tell me, "this is the future". What I'm worried about is the reliability of the said games server. My 50mb connection is reliable, but I still can't play the new Sim City reliably. Cloud based games are cool on paper but have been executed poorly by companies like EA. I can already see a storm brewing.

Everyone that posting on this forum have had internet access, so 100% of all of you people here have no problems accessing Xbox ONE. Don't you all dare spit hatred

minster11 said,
Everyone that posting on this forum have had internet access, so 100% of all of you people here have no problems accessing Xbox ONE. Don't you all dare spit hatred

+100000

If you have cable access you most likely have internet access. If you have cable you most likely have a bundled internet access package since they make sure its more expensive to have just internet than a cable+internet package to entice everyone to get the bundle over just the internet alone.

Those who are looking for the XBOX ONE to entertainment and gaming are pretty much guaranteed to have both CABLE AND INTERNET ACCESS!!

What's all the bitchin about? Single player is not the way of the future and the XBOX Memberships that are active proves this point.

SO BITCHIN and just hand over your money!

Yes I have internet at home, but that now basically prevents me from taking my Xbox with me when I get sent on Training Courses, or Overseas Deployments.

If there was value to this I could maybe accept it, but there's not. It's just forced intrusion that limits how I currently and would like to continue using my consoles. Makes me sad...I was looking forward to this.

Spicoli said,
And what is your other option?

PS4, PC, WiiU? Is it mandatory to own an Xbox to say you are a gamer? or even a console gamer now that the big 2 are running on x86?

gonchuki said,

PS4, PC, WiiU? Is it mandatory to own an Xbox to say you are a gamer? or even a console gamer now that the big 2 are running on x86?

PS4 and Wii U are options to "consoles"? I have always considered those two as consoles.

You can't use Google, Bing, Amazon, Roku, Steam, iTunes, and pretty every other recent consumer entertainment service without an Internet connection. Why does everyone expect this one product to stay in the past?

Spicoli said,
You can't use Google, Bing, Amazon, Roku, Steam, iTunes, and pretty every other recent consumer entertainment service without an Internet connection. Why does everyone expect this one product to stay in the past?

Did you just put search engines and online stores and compare them to a games console? Probably the stupidest post i've ever read on neowin.

torrentthief said,

Did you just put search engines and online stores and compare them to a games console? Probably the stupidest post i've ever read on neowin.

Nothing stupid about it.. we don't accept phones without internet, we buy tablets with 3g/4g built in, we expect our devices, our cars, our computers and our games to be connected.

I've had my consoles on the internet since I got my Dreamcast..

Spicoli said,
You can't use Google, Bing, Amazon, Roku, Steam, iTunes, and pretty every other recent consumer entertainment service without an Internet connection. Why does everyone expect this one product to stay in the past?

because the all augment things that were traditionally offline. Gaming was always traditionally offline, but Microsoft is forcing it online only.

greenwizard88 said,

because the all augment things that were traditionally offline. Gaming was always traditionally offline, but Microsoft is forcing it online only.

It's not just a gaming device now though. It's an entertainment device and, as such, needs the internet to function properly.

Spicoli said,
Are you seriously saying Google is only a search engine, Amazon is only a store, and Steam doesn't have games. If you're going to be a jerk, at least make sense.

give me the address to the retail shop for amazon, steam and apple where i can buy amazon's products and apple's itunes music, oh wait you can't. Give me the google and bing search engine and several tb of data so i can do an offline search oh wait you can't. These businesses cannot exist without the internet, thats how the products and services are distributed. The xbox one games can come on a disc therefore there is no need for the internet AT ALL hence my point proven.

you know, this will still suck for areas where there are no wired connections and no WISPs (cell phone isp's etc) except for maybe satellite connections... which have very small usage quotas generally... yes there are a lot of areas in the USA like this in the mid west...

They really don't want many people to buy this thing now do they?

(And that's coming from someone who's been an Xbox fan in this gen and the last gen!)

This is horrible news, as i mentioned this in another X1 Topic. I hope they come up with a clear answer regarding what happens to our game collection on X1, if we were to some how get banned from the live service, since we would not be able to activate the live service within 24 hours would our entire game collection suddenly become worthless? This also applies to what would happen to our collection if the X1 live service was to retire. With news like this, i think i will pass on this X1 and go with PS4 this time around. Hopefully, Sony doesn't pull this b.s as well.

Ultravires said,
[...]Hopefully, Sony doesn't pull this b.s as well.

Lets wait and see what sort of BS will Sony pull from their sleeves sooner or later. After all, they didn't go around filing used-game prevention patents for nothing.

I'm sure it will be the same as now. You can lose access to your licensed content for severe infractions such as hacking into the system. There's plenty of stuff about it in the terms of use and the support site.

zicoz said,
I honestly don't think this is an issue at all. It's a modern device for a modern time.

oh sorry, you wanted to use this modern fridge that includes an ice cube dispenser? please connect it to the Internet so it can phone home every 24 hours or your food will go bad.

Modern does not equal "internet connection mandatory".

gonchuki said,

oh sorry, you wanted to use this modern fridge that includes an ice cube dispenser? please connect it to the Internet so it can phone home every 24 hours or your food will go bad.

Modern does not equal "internet connection mandatory".

In all fairness, the refrigerator does require power 24 hours a day. Not a good analogy.

laserfloyd said,

In all fairness, the refrigerator does require power 24 hours a day. Not a good analogy.


Power is not Internet. The problem is that you are out of Internet way more often than you are out of electricity. Reliability needs to go way up before you can state that things need to be always online, or even online once every 24 hours.

myxomatosis said,

Windows 8 = moving forward, remember?

At least Windows 8 doesn't refuse to start if it doesn't detect a touch screen. This on the other hand...

Console gamers meet what PC gamers have had for many years, this is simply the future. People that think they will avoid it by going for PS4 will be in for a surprise when games (like Titanfall) aren't even going to release on it. If Sony aren't already planning it, they will be forced into these DRM-type schemes by game publishers just to get the games on their console.

This totally sucks from a consumer stand point, but if I was to pretend I was a game developer, it's good news.

Exactly. It's no secret that both MS & Sony want to get rid of the physical distribution & have a online, Steam like, store. That's where it was always going, what we don't know is how it gets there.

Developers should have there own forms of DRM, but not chain everyone else to this. I for one, will not be buying an XBox One, just like I quit buying Ubisoft games because of their DRM. I understand the need, but the implementations SUCK. There have been times where my internet has been down for 3 or 4 days. I'll be damned if I'm going to buy something that doesn't allow me to play just because I don't have internet.

Nooooooo developers should absolutely NOT have their own DRM - that should be platform enforced. That's how we ended up with things like limited install count, online pass, Starforce, etc. It's perfectly fine to ignore or lambast the Xbox One because their licensing system isn't acceptable, but forcing everybody to make that evaluation with every game purchase would just be awful, and it's one of the things that I dislike about Steam. I do my very best to avoid buying anything on Steam with extra DRM.

That said, I agree; this is terrible news. 24 hours is far too frequent to be acceptable (2 weeks would be workable for me), and without a promise to permanently authorize all Xboxes when the licensing system for Xbox One is brought offline in 20 years, I question whether I should buy in at all.

farmeunit said,
... just like I quit buying Ubisoft games because of their DRM ...

Actually Ubisoft backpedaled on their always online DRM last year and newer games have been free from that burden (and some older titles patched to remove the invasive DRM).

And you know what? MS at some point will be forced to do the same when sales numbers start going bad in the rest of the world where Internet isn't as reliable, cable TV providers are not in their pockets, and NHL/NBA stats are meaningless. All you are left with is a glorified DVD/Bluray player untill your internet comes back.

I sense ruffled feathers! Microsoft can't assume that every Xbox owner currently, has an internet connection..... can they?! Wait, rhetorical question, they just did!

Cmon, be realistic, 99.99% of 360 owners probably have internet connections....I don't know a single person without it, haven't for 10 years...technology has been 'always online' for years just nobody realised or made it mandatory, (this still isn't 100% mandatory just every 24 hours). no big deal.

when you go on a trip its had to find a internet connection, i dont play Xbox but this is bad, i would never but a device that need a daily connection to work

That's where YOU have lived. I currently live 10 minutes out of Kansas City, but it's so rural, they only internet is satellite or cell hotspots. Most people don't have either. They use their cell phones for internet, but no hotspots. The caps for that are ridiculous and most people don't want to pay for it. My last location was similar. The town I live in had it, but I worked it a small school district and a lot of people could only do satellite or cell there, also.

More and more people have a internet connection in their pocket. It's not as if this "phone home" thing is going to consists of gigabytes of data. The only place I can think of that I might not have internet connection these days is if I'm going camping in the mountains. And I'm not really gonna bring my XO with me there.

yeoo_andy_ni said,
I sense ruffled feathers! Microsoft can't assume that every Xbox owner currently, has an internet connection..... can they?! Wait, rhetorical question, they just did!

I mean, they do already have a 50 million user base to get online data usage from...

I've said before, I'm sure they know a lot more about the online situation of gamers that a lot of people here pretend to know.

I haven't paid for an Xbox live gold for over 5 years, and haven't hooked my Xbox on the internet for a good while. Don't care -- never cared, never will.

ah, and 88.6795% of people that come with "99.99% stats" are full of bull.

pmdci said,
I haven't paid for an Xbox live gold for over 5 years, and haven't hooked my Xbox on the internet for a good while. Don't care -- never cared, never will.

ah, and 88.6795% of people that come with "99.99% stats" are full of bull.

I didn't say that 99.99% had the 360 hooked up to the Internet, just that they have some form of connection, be that, POTS broadband, fibre, cable, sat, mobile(cell) for the Americans ;-) which now adays is probably not that far from true. And it was more to prove a point that be a factual statistic anyway.

philcruicks said,
I didn't say that 99.99% had the 360 hooked up to the Internet, just that they have some form of connection, [...]

Regardless... As a statistician myself, nothing screams desperation like make-believe stats. Plus, you can't prove points with hyperboles and litotes such as "not far from true".

Edited by pmdci, Jun 6 2013, 11:16pm :

spenser.d said,

I mean, they do already have a 50 million user base to get online data usage from...

I've said before, I'm sure they know a lot more about the online situation of gamers that a lot of people here pretend to know.


Because they are of course going to get usage data from users who never connect to the internet.

philcruicks said,
Cmon, be realistic, 99.99% of 360 owners probably have internet connections....I don't know a single person without it, haven't for 10 years...technology has been 'always online' for years just nobody realised or made it mandatory, (this still isn't 100% mandatory just every 24 hours). no big deal.

Exactly.

erikpienk said,
when you go on a trip its had to find a internet connection, i dont play Xbox but this is bad, i would never but a device that need a daily connection to work

I make sure where ever I go has internet connection. Most hotels do.

erikpienk said,
when you go on a trip its had to find a internet connection, i dont play Xbox but this is bad, i would never but a device that need a daily connection to work

When you're on a trip, you should probably leave the xbox home anyways. Isn't that some of the point with going on a trip?

Graimer said,

When you're on a trip, you should probably leave the xbox home anyways. Isn't that some of the point with going on a trip?

ah! There you are!!! We were all eagerly waiting for your eye-opening condescending comment.

philcruicks said,
Cmon, be realistic, 99.99% of 360 owners probably have internet connections....I don't know a single person without it, haven't for 10 years...technology has been 'always online' for years just nobody realised or made it mandatory, (this still isn't 100% mandatory just every 24 hours). no big deal.

... Yes that's because everybody you know lives near you

what about the word " mandatory " do you not understand
If something is required to happen in order to allow something else to go ahead then it is mandatory

pmdci said,

ah! There you are!!! We were all eagerly waiting for your eye-opening condescending comment.


A game console is not meant to be portable. Have you seen it's size? And the requirement of a TV? For trips, you use a PORTABLE player like PSP. That's the reason PORTABLE PLAYERS were made.

Graimer said,

A game console is not meant to be portable. Have you seen it's size? And the requirement of a TV? For trips, you use a PORTABLE player like PSP. That's the reason PORTABLE PLAYERS were made.

That's just stupid. We use to use the xbox in the car (with portable tvs) on long trips.

nub said,

That's just stupid. We use to use the xbox in the car (with portable tvs) on long trips.

I'm sorry, I thought you said I was stupid. Bringing a player that relies on discs in a car? One bump and it's scratched and won't play. Nevertheless, you're that 1% who does that. It's not possible to please all...

Graimer said,

I'm sorry, I thought you said I was stupid.

I said you're comment was stupid, not you. Also they should take all those cd players out of cars.

Graimer said,

A game console is not meant to be portable. Have you seen it's size? And the requirement of a TV? For trips, you use a PORTABLE player like PSP. That's the reason PORTABLE PLAYERS were made.

What sort of retard argument is that? The guy isn't talking about carrying the Xbox One on his freaking pocket and to play it while he waits for his desert in a restaurant. Even though, this is an idiotic paradigm from the start. He is talking about taking the console from one location to another, which he is entitled to do.

Zedox said,
And here comes the hate.

Well, it should be expected given the current consumer dislike of online requirements for single-player games.

The TV in my room is working months without a cable or satelite connection, why must my game console connect to the internet to player a single player game which I own the physical disc for?
If Microsoft said well just insert the Disc to verify the install I'd say ok, but you want to tell me that if my ISP screws up or a Storm/Huricane is passing or friends/family gathered somewhere rural, my Xbox will refuse to play the game, with the disc in the drive, because it can't say hello to a Microsoft server?
Surely you see how ridiculous that sounds.

Zedox said,
And here comes the hate.

Yes, they come bold and hard... Right behind the confirming fanboys. So close the fanboys can feel the haters' breath on their necks. /s

I guess when I get one of these for christmas I won't be bringing it to my families new years gathering on the coast... No internet at the beach house we rent. Which makes me almost want to wait to buy it until after christmas so I can buy a cool gadget to bring with me at new years.

NastySasquatch said,
I guess when I get one of these for christmas I won't be bringing it to my families new years gathering on the coast... No internet at the beach house we rent. Which makes me almost want to wait to buy it until after christmas so I can buy a cool gadget to bring with me at new years.

I'm counting the minutes until some wise a** ahole replies to your comment preaching that you shouldn't be playing video games at your beach house -- you should be at the beach!

zicoz said,
Or you could just use your smartphone as a hotspot.

No cell coverage, no cable lines. The place has satellite TV. It's in a remote location on the coast. I don't even think it has phone lines hooked up to it. Also who says everyone has a smartphone. The only reason I'm really even getting an xbone is for my kids.

zicoz said,
Or you could just use your smartphone as a hotspot.

Yeah, because everyone can afford to use their phone as a hotspot. The price of mobile data would kill you

Auzeras said,

Yeah, because everyone can afford to use their phone as a hotspot. The price of mobile data would kill you

Not necessarily, presumably it just needs to connect momentarily every 24 hours then you can go ahead and play offline for the next 23 hours 59 minutes (that's how I interpreted it)

So to momentarily reconnect online I do not see you using more than a couple megabytes of data, if that.

But you're right, if you were to game ONLINE, or leave it on for an extended period, you will be gouged by the mobile data rates.

NastySasquatch said,
I guess when I get one of these for christmas I won't be bringing it to my families new years gathering on the coast... No internet at the beach house we rent. Which makes me almost want to wait to buy it until after christmas so I can buy a cool gadget to bring with me at new years.

Sucks for you.

Auzeras said,

Yeah, because everyone can afford to use their phone as a hotspot. The price of mobile data would kill you

T-Mobile... unlimited data, mobile hotspot included, no contracts.

pmdci said,

Ah, there you are! I was wondering when you would show up!

I am here because you and people discriminate me because I have no avatar.

Wyn6 said,

T-Mobile... unlimited data, mobile hotspot included, no contracts.

Ah, that is, if you're American. In New Zealand you can try $65 USD for 3 GB

max22 said,

I am here because you and people discriminate me because I have no avatar.

Eh? Speake the englishe?

Auzeras said,

Yeah, because everyone can afford to use their phone as a hotspot. The price of mobile data would kill you


While it's inconvenient, you're only required to connect once per 24 hours. A simple login using ur smartphone's internet would not kill you. It's probably around 1MB or less traffic.

What about the 10 of thousands of soldiers and contractors deployed that buy Xboxes. The internet speeds there are crazy slow ( 56k and less slow). Sometimes connections down for days. This screws them.

Rural usa not everyone has high speed yet. I never play online with people, i will stick with the other game systems. I bet Sony will do the same thing.

Agreed. I know a LOT of people out in very rural areas that internet isn't readily available. Satellite is, but more than most people want to pay and they all have caps.

Damn... that seals it for me then. It sucks because I love the Xbox and enjoy Microsoft products. Even as a Microsoft fan (not fanboy) I can say this is seriously disheartening for me. It sucks because I am not sure what the minority or majority are in this category, but most of the time, and even where my X360 is now, I don't have internet.

This really strikes out a lot of rural people, and even some in the city, especially students.

Perfect72 said,

This really strikes out a lot of rural people, and even some in the city, especially students.

I don't think this is much of a problem for people living in city and never going anywhere else.

But for me it's a problem. I have a cottage in the middle of a forest. No way to get internet there. Normal cell phones don't work. Impossible to get any TV channel either. When i go there i always bring my console just in case the weather is not good and it's raining.

IMO Microsoft wil probably do something about it so you can play games offline without the need to connect every 24 hours.

Yeah you're right its not much of a problem for someone living in the city but wtf why do I need an internet connection to play a game

It only gets worse w this because if consoles follow always on DRM, and PC games for the majority are all ports of the xbox because of lazy ass major companies, we'll start moving towards a very internet based gaming setup, which is of course what most major developers want and think need be done in a 60 billion dollar industry.

suprNOVA said,
Yeah you're right its not much of a problem for someone living in the city but wtf why do I need an internet connection to play a game

Personaly I don't have a problem with this. It doesn't really matter if it's required or not, because why would I want to play offline? I like to chat with friends even when I play single-player games, and be able to see when someone comes online so I could play multi-player right away.

I can however, see the frustration from people who doesn't have an internet connection.

Perfect72 said,
Damn... that seals it for me then. It sucks because I love the Xbox and enjoy Microsoft products. Even as a Microsoft fan (not fanboy) I can say this is seriously disheartening for me. It sucks because I am not sure what the minority or majority are in this category, but most of the time, and even where my X360 is now, I don't have internet.

This really strikes out a lot of rural people, and even some in the city, especially students.


Yup. It is a saddening change in the console world. I remember when I moved and didn't have internet for a month. The internetless times happen and they're hard enough without the lack of games.

LaP said,

But for me it's a problem. I have a cottage in the middle of a forest. No way to get internet there.

Doesn't sound like a problem to me. Why would you want tech there anyway? Sounds like heaven...

Harreh said,

Doesn't sound like a problem to me. Why would you want tech there anyway? Sounds like heaven...

Maybe because Mother Nature is not always cooperating ....

Windsinger said,

Sheep usually don't have a problem until they are near the slaughterhouse. Are you going to wait till the blade is an inch from your throat before you "have a problem" with it?

History is filled with sheep such as yourself who "have no problem" with overlords.

You should really watch your mouth. Just because I'm not complaining about every new rule, feature etc. doesn't mean I'm a sheep you piece of sh*t!

I buy a console because it fits me. If I only have to connect once a day to be able to SHARE my games with my family who lives 9 hours away without having to mail the damn disc, I'd have no problem with it.

As I've said earlier, I can understand the people without internet are complaining, but they are the underdogs in this "battle". Over 60% (likely a lot more) HAS internet, if not they wouldn't be able to complain here like you. I would however wish the MS changes it to 72 hours in the case the internet is down for someone or their on a weekend trip.