Xbox One Twitch app reported to have 1280x720 streaming video versus 960x540 for PS4

A new report claims that the upcoming Twitch app update for Microsoft's Xbox One console will not only add the ability to stream live gameplay, but it will do so at a higher resolution and bitrate than the current version found on Sony's PlayStation 4 console.

A Reddit post from user "rotj" links to a stats page for the Xbox One Twitch app, which recorded information from the stream of Microsoft's own Larry "Major Nelson" Hryb. The stats show that the Xbox One Twitch update will stream live gameplay at a resolution of 1280x720 compared to 960x540 for the current PS4 version. In addition, the bitrate for the Xbox One is close to 2.7Mbps, compared to 1.7Mbps for the PS4. Both display at 30 FPS.

The Reddit post also says that the Twitch app will allow for Xbox One users to archive any gameplay video stream they create, something that the PS4 cannot do at the moment. People who broadcast game streams will be able to see viewer and chat stats without displaying those numbers to the public. It also won't broadcast audio from any group chats.

The Twitch app is scheduled to be updated on March 11th, the same day as the Xbox One version of the long awaited first person shooter Titanfall is to be released.

Source: Reddit | Image via Twitch

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Wow, this information was very useful for me because I actually use my gaming consoles to watch other people play games instead of playing games myself. Since the X1 is able to stream better, it clearly means that its the best out of the two, the games for it may not always be in 1080p or not always play at higher fps, but that doesn't matter since it can stream in higher resolutions.

(such extreme sarcasm)

PC master race signing in, what's going on?
oh, you can stream 720p but you still can't do 4K gaming.
Call me back in 2020 when the low spec PS4/BX1 catch up.
pc master race signing out.

trojan_market said,
PC games will always be ahead of consoles.

But who would have expected that they are so far ahead this generation

If they drop a PC version, my PS3 copy is going bye bye. No sense in having an inferior copy of the game...

(Being honest here, mods make games like The Elder Scrolls, Fallout, and GTA just that much more awesome; much greater longevity)

They call this next-gen? I dont touch anything thats not doing 4k resolution let alone 1080p.MS and Sony have totally failed. /s

Round and round the resolutions go, where will it stop? Nobody knows!

I seriously wish the PS4 & Xbox fanboys, and the equally guilty tech media would shut the hell up about the stupid epeen measurements between the consoles. I never hear anyone actually talk about how much fun they're having with the PS4/XB1 anyways. It's always either a complaint or chest thumping over how their purchase is superior.

I wonder if we're going to see a reverse in app performance between the two from game performance where the One performs better with stuff like this because it was designed around it whereas the PS4 is the better pure games console. If the social stuff really takes off could that be a difference maker?

This is cool I guess... I'm not really a Twitch guy, but I know those who are, seem to be loving the work put into making this a great app to use...

Edit: I personally think most 3rd applications on the X1 are gonna be pretty good. Considering they have resources allocated to it...

suprNOVA said,
really? thats incredible. i didnt know Twitch was that big. is there a source or anything?

Don't really need much of a source when you can check here: http://www.twitch.tv/directory

Easily more than 100k viewers. The biggest thing recently is twitchplayspokemon which had up to 85k viewers concurrently at points.

Good, but still not good enough. In 2014 you should have the option to stream in 1080p and a reasonable bitrate like you can on PC.

I own a PS4 but am completely underwhelmed with the streaming quality, it is really awful. 720p is an improvement and hopefully it starts pushing sony to up the quality more.

Unlike the Xbox One, the PS4 has dedicated video encoding hardware which is currently used for the Vita remote play. It's quite possible that the PS4 SDK still gives no direct access to that piece of hardware to app developers and they are just piping Twitch through the Vita renderer instead of tapping directly into the hardware.

gonchuki said,
Unlike the Xbox One, the PS4 has dedicated video encoding hardware which is currently used for the Vita remote play. It's quite possible that the PS4 SDK still gives no direct access to that piece of hardware to app developers and they are just piping Twitch through the Vita renderer instead of tapping directly into the hardware.

So are you implying that the XB1 doesn't have hardware video encoding? Where did you get that idea? Have you seen the block diagram of the XB1 SoC? Check it out for yourself.

http://semiaccurate.com/2013/0...fts-xbox-ones-architecture/
http://semiaccurate.com/2013/0...ck-is-much-more-than-audio/

Quote from second link:

The system as a whole has a massive chunk of hardware devoted to AV tasks, enough to make background encoding, decoding, playback, scaling, and the rest about as seamless as possible to the gamer. AV should just work and gaming should just work regardless of what the other is doing, something the PS4 should do as well but in a very different way. Then again the majority of this functionality is available in a <$100 Android box so it isn't a standout feature if you follow tech at all.

MS has hardware accelerated video/audio decoding/encoding a long, long time ago, so to think the XB1 doesn't have hardware encoding is beyond ridiculous.

I see, my bad. For some reason I looked for articles stating if the Xbox One had dedicated encoding hardware and could not find anything, so I assumed they were using a combination of the reserved shaders and 1/2 CPU cores for encoding.

It's shaping up to be an interesting contest between the two and functionality differences like this are meaningful (even if this particular one has none for me).
I'm seeing that the Xbox One appears to be the all round best console and can't see a selling point for ps3 (baring higher resolutions) that would make me think it is a good long term purchase. Even the price seems a fairly moot point given the additional features of Xbox.

Thats it.. this console war is over! Ive been saying all along whoever can live stream in the highest resolution wins! /s

I'm guessing the PS4 can't steam at 720p anyway as that takes processing power, and twitch on PS4 possibly also lacks certain other features because the X1 has reserved resources for multitasking. MS can do more, like the snap mode for instance. On the other hand thats resources that games could be using and it would help more games reach 1080p, as 10% of the GPU is reserved. Theres benefits and trade-offs.

Wat?

It's more likely that they took the remote play output that the Vita uses for a quick and dirty streaming feature considering Vita screen is 960x544.

Benefit: Xone can stream at 720p
Tradeoff: The games render at 720p anyways, so no resources needed for downscaling...

E6B9VR said,
Wat?

It's more likely that they took the remote play output that the Vita uses for a quick and dirty streaming feature considering Vita screen is 960x544.

... Err thats my point. PS4 would need to do that as it don't have the resources to do more. Streaming HD video takes processing power and the PS4 has less reserved resources for multitasking. The X1 has more reserved hardware for multitasking so it can simply do more at once, and apps like Twitch can benefit from it. This isn't rocket science.

It doesn't make sense to output 1080p stream for remote play. There is no reason why PS4 can't do 720p streaming as from what I can gather the H.264 encoder built into both XB1 and PS4 APU takes the framebuffer, downscales and encodes it with negligible performance cost to beam over wifi. The PS4 video share feature records at 720p anyway.

I'm not trying to make excuses but maybe it was a Twitch stipulation so they didn't overload the servers at launch, but assumptions aside if the XB1 is capable of it the PS4 is more than capable.

you guys killing yourselves here PS4 has this resolution, XB1 has that resolution. eventually they both going to be pretty much same, games will look like same, and they both going to be good. The only thing will be 1 year from now what exclusive games on each you prefer the most, you will going to get that console. period.

PS4 has a dedicated processor for background tasks such as encoding video, which allows it to stream its screen at 60fps to the Vita and at 720p to Vita TV (since Vita TV's max red is 720p). I'm sure it could handle 30fps 720p to twitch.

Anyway I care more about how my games look to me than to others.

Clearly, the PS4 streaming is superior as it will take less bandwidth because the PS4 is about GAMES not streaming silly videos.

SARCASM!

DClark said,
Clearly, the PS4 streaming is superior as it will take less bandwidth because the PS4 is about GAMES not streaming silly videos.

SARCASM!

Don't forget that PS4 has better video quality video stream at a lower resolution, I swear I have tested it. Sony rocks, MS Sucks! /s