Zipper: Xbox Live "more juvenile" than PSN

Ben Jones of Zipper Interactive, the developers behind PlayStation 3 exclusive MAG, has said that he believes the Xbox Live service to be "the more juvenile of the two," making the PlayStation Network a better platform for the game.

A massive multiplayer online first person shooter, MAG will see gamers battle it out in a huge 256 player online battle. Zipper Interactive's previous games include the popular SOCOM series.

Talking to GamerZines at an event in London last week, Jones said "I actually consider Xbox Live the more juvenile of the two," due to "the things that are being said over Xbox Live."

"Each service has its own posse," he explained. "I think the PlayStation audience definitely fits more to our game. As we saw in the beta we've got an audience that's willing to communicate and willing to organize and structure, and help other people to play the game. That's the most remarkable thing that I saw in the beta -- random people helping other players along to try and familiarize themselves with this really cool experience."

MAG is already released in the United States and Europe, with a UK release coming later this week. Australia and New Zealand won't see MAG until February 11th.

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I have both a PS3 and an Xbox ... I subscribe to Live Gold and I also have PSN .... NEITHER ARE ANY DIFFERENT! PSN is JUST as good as Live albeit without cross game chat. That is all. Other than that, I never have any lag. I never find people any worse than Live (or better). It's the damn same. Live and PSN arguments are stupid, pointless, and complete time wasting. I have both, so I enjoy both. I buy more games for my PS3 because I prefer the pad. Other than that, I have no issue on either live setups. And yes, I was part of the beta for MAG and it was stupidly good without lag. So I'm looking forward to it. But do I think PSN is better than Live? No. I literally have to reiterate ... there is zero difference other than cross game chat being cool on Live. Gah! LOL! This dude is painting people with brushes he shouldn't be.

I almost never play online games and when I did on the PS3 I heard some mental kids in both Fat Princess and Little Big Planet. I can't even imagine what an FPS will be like with kids swearing etc.

Piggy said,
I almost never play online games and when I did on the PS3 I heard some mental kids in both Fat Princess and Little Big Planet.
Order from the McDonalds kids menu, and a Happy Meal is what you get. You cant complain. Try the Whopper from Burger King.

Wii is for kids and tweens
Xbox is for teens and young adults.
PS3 is for people with more money than brains. Which typically rule out the broke ass kids.

dotf said,
Wii is for kids and tweens
Xbox is for teens and young adults.
PS3 is for people with more money than brains. Which typically rule out the broke ass kids.

What a stupid post. All of the above consoles are for people who like games. FACT... and end of subject.

I find it true. Most people you come across on PSN are over 20 at least. It will only get worse of course.

I hate playing against non-friends on Live. Usually ******s.

I wish they could divide both services into age strata. I would love to be in a 25+ tier. I think that would help plenty if there was a reliable way to do it, regardless of who has microphones.

Thsi guy would mayb ehave been right a year a go, but since the price drop the PS3 crowd is largely the same as XBL. Part of why I stopped playing MW2 online, so many whiny high-pitched kids screaming their lungs out, and playing terrible music over the mic.

360 attracts the more juvenile crowd because:

1) It's tons cheaper.
2) It has all the generic and over hyped casual games like Halo.

Xilo said,
360 attracts the more juvenile crowd because:

1) It's tons cheaper.
2) It has all the generic and over hyped casual games like Halo.

And to think I thought I was going to only see fan boy comments from apple fans today.
1 They are now the same price.
2 PS3 gets over rated games too and very few exclusive amazing games.

Oh, please.

1. 360 had a 4 year head start before PS3 came down in price to about equal levels.
2. PS3 exclusives are generally a lot better than 360s. Sorry, but games that also are on Windows aren't "exclusives". What do you have left? Halo, Gears of War, and some others? Not too many good ones.

[quote=S00N3R FR3AK said,]

And to think I thought I was going to only see fan boy comments from apple fans today.
1 They are now the same price.
2 PS3 gets over rated games too and very few exclusive amazing games.[/quote

Only thing I want to say is that 360 has more quantity but PS3 has more quality, not that 360 do not have great quality games too. But, if you need to, just go on any gaming review site and take the avg of their top 10 games for ps3 and 360 and see which one is avgs higher.

Xilo said,
360 attracts the more juvenile crowd because:

1) It's tons cheaper.
2) It has all the generic and over hyped casual games like Halo.

Halo is far from a casual game. It's an OLD game (it came out for the original XB and foir PC), but even the PC version was never casual (and still isn't). The price argument, however, is, UNfortunately, dead-on; lower prices DO have a tendency to attract "riffraff" (whether it's consoles or housing; why do you think project housing has the rep it has?).

A lot of you probably either don't know or are forgetting they're doing text input for MAG as well, so you don't even need a microphone.

I don`t know the rights or wrongs of the statement, what i can say is i`ve just signed up to XBox live ( now i get spam all of a sudden...!:-() and i got a microphone/headset. Whenever i wear it all i seem to hear are juvenile delinquents making stupid noises and talking like they are some gangsta.........very strange!

I have both and played on both. They are both the same in terms of the type of people you run into. I think what is being overlooked is that little racists and certain adults/kids suck so you start to become 'friends' with people who play like you and end up playing in semi closed groups more. I.E. i am an adult (who is not a racist!) and likes to play seriously so i am friends with people who play the same on each respective service. For some reason though I enjoy LIVE better than PSN but i think its because i like the Xbox Controller better and my LIVE works better which i find weird. Maybe its FIOS who knows. But this guys rationale of Juvenile should be re-examined since his statement is one of a trolling fanboy or someone with money at stake. Clearly a greedy self serving statement. both are pretty good at what they try to be but people are people.

I actually agree 110% with this statement, with that said as Sethos and others have pointed out, a lot less people actually have Mics on the PS3 so give everyone mics and that very well could change, but from my experience on both networks, he is without a doubt right.

I can't really see how Zipper could make that sort of comparison when they are only testing their game on PS3. How do they know what Xbox live players are like on a specific multiplayer game exclusive to PS3. Are they using experiences from other games? Is that really a fair comparison?

kikumbob said,
I can't really see how Zipper could make that sort of comparison when they are only testing their game on PS3. How do they know what Xbox live players are like on a specific multiplayer game exclusive to PS3. Are they using experiences from other games? Is that really a fair comparison?

ZI used to be multiplatform (including PC; ever heard of Recoil?) - didn't they get bought by a company that was in turn acquired by SCEA?

ZI was one of two companies that were originally known for both original PS and PC (or even multiplatform) titles that *weren't* part of Acclaim (which melted down) or GOD (the other was Psygnosis, home of the WipeOut franchise, which after WipeOut 2047/XL, also went Sony console-exclusive; in Psygnosis' case, it was due to their acquisition by SCEA). So I have to take that coment with a Siberian Salt Mine.

This is old news to anyone with access to both consoles. You can pull the microphone card all you want. How hard do you really think it is to get a bluetooth earpiece? Give a kid and an adult a mic and see which is more verbal. Anyone stating in contrary to this article, either doesnt have both consoles, is a fanny, or are the very ones doing all the whining on live. No one in their right mind would go with 256 xbl players over the same number psn players. The thought alone is traumatizing.

mind you, ive stopped playing online on my xbox because of the "kids" (yes i know there are some childish adults too) but i just cant be arsed with them... so my xbox live gold account of 4 years is now a silver.

LMAO, what a fail. I bet you would hear a lot more *kids* on PSN if more had mics. Most do on xbox live and most dont on PSN that I have found.
And its not like people are not helpful on xbox live...
This is all before we get to the fact the the PSN is just a bit more shoddy then xbox in terms of systems in general.

It was the reason why i gave up my gold account for silver, got tired of the kids screaming crap through a microphone.

REM2000 said,
It was the reason why i gave up my gold account for silver, got tired of the kids screaming crap through a microphone.

Happens on PSN just as much, in some respects worse since there is no real rating system and an almost complete lack or moderation.

REM2000 said,
It was the reason why i gave up my gold account for silver, got tired of the kids screaming crap through a microphone.

Not like that problem doesn't exist on PSN. On Live you can easily mute people or only allow your friends to talk to you to solve that problem.

bob_c_b said,

Happens on PSN just as much, in some respects worse since there is no real rating system and an almost complete lack or moderation.

You get it on both consoles just as much. The 360 is a more kid friendly environment too. The systems were cheaper and then interface was more kid like, cartoony. It's almost a mix of Wii and PS3. I always found that the 360 looks more kiddish and wants to look fun where the PS3 is just get down to business, lets game or whatever else you wanna do.

dogmai said,

You get it on both consoles just as much. The 360 is a more kid friendly environment too. The systems were cheaper and then interface was more kid like, cartoony. It's almost a mix of Wii and PS3. I always found that the 360 looks more kiddish and wants to look fun where the PS3 is just get down to business, lets game or whatever else you wanna do.

The PS3 does not look like it wants to "get down to business", it looks like the interface is an afterthought.

Look at you all jumping to the defence of a console, god forbid a service has a flaw or some criticism. Is it really that difficult for some of you to understand that some people have had a different experience than yourself using live?

Either way the Sony shareholders must be spitting Microsoft is making people charge for the priviledge and sony is not and yet some how Microsoft still has the more popular service even if there is more younger people playing online.

Vandalsquad said,
Either way the Sony shareholders must be spitting Microsoft is making people charge for the priviledge and sony is not and yet some how Microsoft still has the more popular service even if there is more younger people playing online.

People seem to think that if you pay for it vs getting it free, you must be getting something better. Not the case but who am I to say. I'm just one of millions. I have both consoles too and don't find it worth paying to get online so my 360 is on a shelf collecting dust now. Sorry, I won't pay to play. I already did when I bought the game.

Can you imagine the abuse that's going to happen when you get 256 (if that number is even possible without a lagfest slideshow of a game) jackasses simultaneously in one game?
Good luck with that.

Two-hundred and fifty-six people with no penalty for hacking. As much as anyone can hate Xbox Live (or paying for it), they hand out bans proactively when people use glitches, whereas I do not necessarily hear the same of PSN, where you can just create a new account for free if your account catches a ban.

Yert said,
Two-hundred and fifty-six people with no penalty for hacking. As much as anyone can hate Xbox Live (or paying for it), they hand out bans proactively when people use glitches, whereas I do not necessarily hear the same of PSN, where you can just create a new account for free if your account catches a ban.

Maybe they don't want to proactivly ban people on PSN so the numbers stay high? Hey, it's good marketing you know.

ahhell said,
Can you imagine the abuse that's going to happen when you get 256 (if that number is even possible without a lagfest slideshow of a game) jackasses simultaneously in one game?
Good luck with that.

Would be a good remark if you actually read a damn thing about MAG, you're broken into squads of 8, and only the squad leaders can communicate with the other squads.

And to be a leader you need to earn that rank.

AND, Sony do ban PS3s. Jesus ahhell, how wrong could you be in one post.

Edited by Audioboxer, Jan 27 2010, 1:39pm :

ahhell said,
Can you imagine the abuse that's going to happen when you get 256 (if that number is even possible without a lagfest slideshow of a game) jackasses simultaneously in one game?
Good luck with that.

Didn't make the rank for the 256 player games yet (only was released yesterday), but I played on a 128 player game with no lag what so ever. The game runs silky smooth.

Yeah, he might be a bit biased. It's weird because you would think that charging for Xbox Live would keep out some of the kids. I guess it does but maybe the demographic of the 360 is slightly younger than that of the PS3? I don't know.

mad_onion said,
Yeah, he might be a bit biased. It's weird because you would think that charging for Xbox Live would keep out some of the kids. I guess it does but maybe the demographic of the 360 is slightly younger than that of the PS3? I don't know.
No sir. What weeded out the kids was the hefty ps3 pricetag at launch up till recent. Having both live and psn my multiplayer always took me to psn. The enviroment as a whole was much more enjoyable and sophisticated in comparison.

schiz-o-phren-ic said,
No sir. What weeded out the kids was the hefty ps3 pricetag at launch up till recent. Having both live and psn my multiplayer always took me to psn. The enviroment as a whole was much more enjoyable and sophisticated in comparison.
Spot on. Having used both services I would say psn is definitely much less juvenile than live. I don't get why some people take remarks like this so personally, both systems have there pros and cons...

Edited by TSO, Jan 28 2010, 2:45am :

GP007 said,
Uh huh. That sony exclusivity money plays no part in any of this bias.. er I mean opinion about the two right?

Of course not silly..