Zune Loses to iPod by 1 Point

Cnet hosts a show called Prizefight in which two gadgets duke it out head to head for bragging rights of the Universe. It's like Frankenfights with less sources and in video.

They break the battle down point by point as the Zune almost goes the distance.

Scores:
Design: Zune 4 - Ipod 4
Interface Zune 5 - Ipod 4
Compatibility: Zune 2 - Ipod 3
Features: Zune 4 - Ipod 5
Performance: Zune 4 - 4
The wise people at Cnet agreed with the Frankenfight's interface and compatibility scoring, though our 10-legged monster gave the design round to the iPod. To me, who would still choose an iPod over the Zune, it's refreshing to watch Apple called out as a fallible manufacturing company instead of an immortal design studio, blessing us with MP3 mana from the heavens.

News source: Gizmodo via Back Page news

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what i want is something thats got the least ammount of limitations with a good "bang for the buck" product to... cause i aint gonna have not being able to use the mp3 player as a hard drive if i want.

is creative players any good? (i never really looked into these hd based mp3 players much so as of now i dont know to much about em)

compatibility is better on the ipod: it works in os x and windows . can't say of the zune..
also the design is better on apples site. more colors and stuff. so i agree with these findings.

Its too early to farely compare the iPod to the zune in the first place. The iPod simply has the exposure as its had many years to establish a loyal consumer base and draw them in with there colorful commercials and the many years to implement new features and update it time and time again. Zune just released several months ago in its first generation and there allredy trying to measure it up with something. Give the zune a year or two for them to launch a next gen zune and it will kick some ass. Im sorry but the iPod is seriously beginning to lack in terms of features and especially its look. Maybe its just me but im sick and tired of the iPod's look actually apple products as a whole. The aqua theme just aint cuttin it.. least for me anyways. Everything apple makes the interface looks remotely the same and its just getting on my nerves. Apple's gonna have to um set the bar and introduce something new that the zune doesnt have if they actually expect to keep their strangehold on the media player market. As far i can tell the zune has everything the iPod has and then some. The only reason im keeping my ipod is because of the compatibilty issues with the zune so ill hold off for now.

No it's not, Microsoft had a perfect chance to knock apple around a bit. It didn't in fact, it could not even shake sandisk and creative. And don't go brandishing the holy grail of version 2.0. As if apple, creative and sandisk are going to sit on theyre behind and wait for microsoft to come barging in. Unless Microsoft comes around with a product that is better designed, better marketed and with better feature at a better price than a ipod. It will only be able to get second place at best.

Quote - Darkinspiration said @ #12.1
No it's not, Microsoft had a perfect chance to knock apple around a bit. It didn't in fact, it could not even shake sandisk and creative. And don't go brandishing the holy grail of version 2.0. As if apple, creative and sandisk are going to sit on theyre behind and wait for microsoft to come barging in. Unless Microsoft comes around with a product that is better designed, better marketed and with better feature at a better price than a ipod. It will only be able to get second place at best.

Regardless its still to early to make any assumptions as to who is "winning". You can't make that judgement and neither can CNet. One thing that is true is the Zune is a promising product to look at in the future and honestly i dont know how you can really constitute what is first and second in this world as everyone has their own opinion. It could only be measured by place in the number of sales and its simply too soon to calculate that yet. Only time can tell. Im not saying its going to kill the iPod but its a great alternative with a lot of potential. I will hand it to apple though as the most important thing to iPod success has been mostly the marketing.

Compatibility: Zune 2

they should give it 0 or at most 1, Zune marketplace, playforsure, wifi-drm, No Mac...etc The only reason why I didn't get an iPod because I personally hate iTune, why would I lock myself to another software.

Design: Zune 4

How could Zune tied with iPod? It's heavier and bigger, I can't believe MS can't produce a device as slim as iPod. I'm looking forward for "Zune 360".

"blessing us with MP3 mana from the heaven"

And whoever said Apple does that? Steve Jobs? Ok, anyone else?

Nope, didn't think so.

wait till the second generation zune. then we'll see how microsoft deals. if it is great, which i'm thinking it SHOULD be, i'll get one for sure.

Does anyone really trust CNet and their stupidly biased 'comparisons' any more? I remember when they compared Mozilla Firefox to Internet Explorer 7 and it was the most biased thing I've ever read.

Of course just about everyone is Anti-MS these days. Though I'd expect reviewers to set aside their personal views to be fair and professional, but unfortunantly that wont happen because most are about as childish as the fanboys that plague here and everywhere. One thing I have noticed is that the people who tend to be biased are one sided and probably haven't even used the other said competition as much as the first and therefore have no right to even open their damn mouths.

I dont understand how the zune only got a 4 for features whereas the ipod got 5? How does that make sense when the zune has wifi functionality and an fm tuner built in?

Quote - Kevola said @ #4
I dont understand how the zune only got a 4 for features whereas the ipod got 5? How does that make sense when the zune has wifi functionality and an fm tuner built in?

Who said anything about it making sense?

The only reason the iPod is better than the Zune is that its got around 5 years of development behind it to correct flaws in the design. The Zune should be left to mature before comparing it.

And Microsoft has the dual advantages of a) tons of resources to throw into the product, more so than any other company has, and b) the advantage of being able to stand on the shoulder of giants - that is, to see what is already successful in the market that other companies funded in their development and marketing. Rather than spending R&D money just to get here today, they are already here now.

That said, I think that would have rated Zune features a "5", instead of the "4" they give it. The wireless part is great. Well, potentially great. It doesn't home-network or sync with it (it should!) and Microsoft should really release or license this information to others to use, so that the Zune can share with more than just other Zunes. I imagine that these sorts of incremental improvements are already in the works at Redmond as nifty "new" features on Zune 2.0.

Quote - markjensen said @ #3.1
That said, I think that would have rated Zune features a "5", instead of the "4" they give it. The wireless part is great. Well, potentially great. It doesn't home-network or sync with it (it should!)

That's probably why they only gave it 4. The features are crippled on purpose, surely that's enough to lose a point.

It is a great start! I don't think the Zune would be as good as it is today if it weren't for the Ipod being around and creating the marketplace it has over the years!

I do have a 60GB black Ipod and I am considering in waiting for the second gen Zune. I think it is very competitive now, however I think their next version will beat the pants off of the Ipod. A healthy competition will be great!

Not a bad start for Microsoft to be honest. I ain't bothered about their delay in Europe, I would rather wait for a second generation Zune anyways. Let's see what they have instore for us next.

But come on, you have to admit, if the Zune came out when the Original Ipod was released -- The Ipod wouldn't be around now. This a good start, even if it looks doom and gloom at the moment..

Quote - NeoFlux said @ #1
But come on, you have to admit, if the Zune came out when the Original Ipod was released -- The Ipod wouldn't be around now.

That couldn't possibly have happened. MS created the Zune only after Apple created the market for these kinds of players.

Apple is MS's R&D department. All MS ever does is copy Apple, Google & Linux. Usually years too late. That might be a sound business strategy, but it makes for mediocre products.


But come on, you have to admit, if the Zune came out when the Original Ipod was released

Well thats like saying "Imagine if the Xbox360 had come out when the Super Nintendo was out.. the Super Nintendo wouldn't be around now!"

Of course it wouldn't - the research, the design and more importantly the technology for MP3 players has come along in leaps and bounds. Back then Microsoft wouldn't have been able to put in a colour screen, anywhere near that capacity, WiFi or video playback. It would have been a comparable product to the iPod of the time, and i'd still wager that the iPod would do better.

Quote - toadeater said @ #1.2
All MS ever does is copy Apple, Google & Linux. Usually years too late. That might be a sound business strategy, but it makes for mediocre products.

I am not supporting MS here, but I have to ask, when was the last time Apple came up with anything on their own? The only thing Apple does is take the work of others, and put it in a pretty wrapper, and then all Laguna Beachers of the world buy it up because they need to accessorize without a clue as to what the product they are buying really does, or whether there are better products on the market or not.

Now, again, that's not to say that all MS users are knowledgeable, as the majority are not either, I just hate how so many people think Apple is innovative and MS is not, when really, they both pull the same crap and use the ideas and work of others to profit.

(toadeater said @ #1.2)

That couldn't possibly have happened. MS created the Zune only after Apple created the market for these kinds of players.

Apple is MS's R&D department. All MS ever does is copy Apple, Google & Linux. Usually years too late. That might be a sound business strategy, but it makes for mediocre products.

Microsoft didn't want to get into the MP3 business....MS was trying to push the MP3 manufacturers to make a quallity product to compete against the iPod. Since MS wasn't satisfied with the MP3 player makers they had to just do it themselves thus the Zune was Born.