Zune Pass: Microsoft's answer to piracy

Zune Pass isn't something new, nor is it something that hasn't been widely covered online, but we're convinced that it really could be the first good attempt at the fight against piracy. We tested out the music subscription to see how well it really works, and if it could actually have a shot at the big time; iTunes.

A few months ago, Microsoft released Windows Phone, a new contender in the mobile market, and the software giants' "new version" of Zune. I was one of the few that went out on Day 1 and got a device. A launch device. Sure, it's been a bumpy, unforgiving ride, but Microsoft has changed the game with Windows Phone, even if the critics disagree right now. The Zune desktop client that goes alongside Windows Phone / Zune hardware is stunning, and really focuses on the music experience, and had me in love from day one.

Shortly after getting a Windows Phone and signing into it, and setting up my account I realized I'd set it up with a New Zealand based Windows Live account. Over here, Microsoft hasn't launched Zune fully, and Zune Pass isn't available, but I kept hearing great things online, so I hard reset my phone and loaded in my old Windows Live ID from the US, then signed up for a 14 day trial of Zune Pass. This is where everything changed.

Marketplace album download view

Zune Pass works on the idea of "try before you buy" music, a common excuse of self-confessed piraters. Those that would always download an album before buying it. Zune gets around this, in a way. When you sign up for Zune Pass, you get full access to the entire catalogue (a massive one, at that) of music on offer. You can download whatever you like, no limits, no restrictions on how much music and the music is yours to keep -- as long as you keep paying subscription costs. This is where Microsoft really throws a curveball, though. On top of the fee you pay for unlimited music ($15 USD at time of writing), you get 10 "song credits" to convert the subscription files (which are DRM loaded) to unlocked MP3 files. Not only does this make Zune Pass more attractive, it essentially means that you're getting an entire album a month for keeps, as well as an entire collection of music to play.

On top of this, you can download music on any 3 authorized PC's, play music on your Xbox 360, transfer it to your Windows Phone or Zune and stream from Zune.com anywhere. That's a competitive package. I've now ditched my iPod in favor of my Windows Phone, considering I have it everywhere anyway. If I run out of song credits, I tend to just buy albums off Zune, too, considering that they're competitively priced.

Zune.com web streaming

Zune Pass is only available in some countries around the world, for more information and to sign up, check out the Zune website.

Update: For those outside the US, there are methods to get a Zune Pass no matter where you are. Check out the guide here.

Has anyone else taken the Zune plunge? Tell us what you think in the comments!

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This has been tried before. People just download a bunch of tracks, strip the DRM, and then drop the service. An unlimited service such as this will just accelerate piracy, and besides, it won't eliminate the traditional avenues.

As a Zune pass member, I haven't even borrowed a CD from a friend to rip it in a couple of years.

There is no reason to dig through illegal and questionable rips like a few friends I know do.

There also isn't a reason to pay $$ just to get the new songs from the new episodes of Glee. (Which I have Gleek friends with iTunes that dump more money in a couple of months than I do for year's Zune Pass subscription.)

However, where it really shines, is when you have a non-technical friend or relative, as they don't even have to rip the CDs they own, nor try to figure out what a torrent site is, or spend tons of money at iTunes.

So, ya it should cut down on piracy, and also should be something that especially pirates consider as a new way to gain access to all the music they want, and not have to worry about breaking the law.

Why download a few CDs of stuff you like illegally, when you can download 100s of CDs of stuff you like legallly.

I just wished more than 3 computers can be authorized to download music. I forgot to deauthorize two computers before I reformatted, but I was able to deauthorize one and reauthorize another (on my netbook) and now I have to wait a month to remove another computer (hoping it's not my desktop, as I reformatted my laptop).

Other than that, I love it! All you can eat music + being able to keep 10 + channels and wireless syncing with my Zune HD (which I wished they'd keep refreshing, but I'll just grab a bigger Zune HD as I don't believe in having everything in one basket).

I'm always a little amazed at how accepting some people are. M$ has finally come out with a product that is far less than ideal, but is so much better than their previous disasters, that you jump up and down over how incredibly mediocre it is. If this was their FIRST offering, it would be one thing, this is simply a way to keep you locked into their product and continue paying where with almost every other alternative, it costs less and no DRM. The convenience etc are all very nice, but how about developing a model that DOES NOT include paying forever. Jesus.

Hahaiah said,
The convenience etc are all very nice, but how about developing a model that DOES NOT include paying forever. Jesus.

Right so what, you pay one payment and that's it? There's a major flaw for microsoft and the music artists right there and that's how are they going to get money? The artists like to be paid for their music, so if someone only has to pay a one-off payment these artists wouldn't get much money at all and thus would end up the arists not allowing Zune pass subscribers to download their work.

You only think about the consumer, yes, we would like the best possible outcome, but companies have to compromise because they're not a charity, MS is a business, and businesses need to make money.

Munroe said,

Right so what, you pay one payment and that's it? There's a major flaw for microsoft and the music artists right there and that's how are they going to get money? The artists like to be paid for their music, so if someone only has to pay a one-off payment these artists wouldn't get much money at all and thus would end up the arists not allowing Zune pass subscribers to download their work.

You only think about the consumer, yes, we would like the best possible outcome, but companies have to compromise because they're not a charity, MS is a business, and businesses need to make money.

You can boo hoo for the corporations all you want, the point is there is plenty of money being made, but greedy labels and distributors always want huge profits, not good profits, huge, so they screw the artist, the consumer and each other. This is painfully obvious to most everyone. You got it right though, Yes I don't think I should have to pay more than once for music. If you wan to provide me with a delivery SERVICE, I would entertain the thought, but I for one am not giving M$ complete control over anything. Rock on sheeple.

Everyone keeps talking about how brilliant Zune Pass is and how awesome it is to have it on all of their Microsoft supported devices. When I used it, it was a good service BUT I would like to submit that Rhapsody is cheaper, and available across a wider range of hardware.

Shadrack said,
Everyone keeps talking about how brilliant Zune Pass is and how awesome it is to have it on all of their Microsoft supported devices. When I used it, it was a good service BUT I would like to submit that Rhapsody is cheaper, and available across a wider range of hardware.

Not as easy to use, tbh

Owen W said,

Not as easy to use, tbh

On what? Works fine on my Droid Incredible. Zune Pass isn't bad, but I didn't care for the Zune HD. I had it for almost a year but sold it because of its lack of the hidden wireless connectivity.

@aquanaut88

I'm guessing as you've quoted prices for US dollars that you live in the US, just checked my Zune (UK) and I can download the Beatles, Peter Gabriel and some pink floyd, that "wish you were here" was on zune, but just said unavailable. Guessing pending on country some bands/artists arn't available.

Recently tried the zune pass for 14days and I was quite impressed, massive catalogue of songs, easy quick transfer between my computer and my wp7, very good stuff

I need help !!!!

I live in Canada. I was able to add a Canadian credit card to my U.S. account back in 2006. I changed my credit card recently... and now ... I can't add it using the same technique I used in 2006. In 2006, I used a random valid U.S. address instead of my address when adding the credit card. It was a VISA.

i did read the guide mentioned in the article.......but the tricks wont work ?
If you got this to work outside the US....please help !

Where do you add the credit card to your account exactly ? Web, phone, Zune software, Xbox ???
also, I did a hard reset on my phone yesterday .... I didn't see this :

"Once you done that if you visit the 'Marketplace' on your phone you will be asked for your region (and birthdate) - at this point set the region to United States"

When you go to the phone settings, what do you have exactly under "Region and language" ?

Zune pass is one thing....i can buy one online like you said...but I absolutely need a credit card to buy apps!!!!

Thanks in advance for your help!

Zune Pass is definitely a winner... I know people in the States that have it and have never downloaded illegally in ages. I really hope they can get worldwide release rights soon otherwise iTunes will probably rip them off with a similiar service someday.

There should be a run off of pros and cons all music servies, Amazon, itunes, Zune, Rhapsody, Qriocity, ect... THat would be a nice article on neowin

Doli said,
There should be a run off of pros and cons all music servies, Amazon, itunes, Zune, Rhapsody, Qriocity, ect... THat would be a nice article on neowin

Thanks for the idea

Gutierrez said,
the people still buying this crappy device?.

Zune Pass not Zune. One is a music subscription the other is a device.

I have a Zune Pass. I just recently said to a friend "I can't remember the last time I torrented something". Between Zune and Netflix, my entertainment needs are satiated

It's interesting how the article mentions "try before buy" as an excuse, not a reason. Isn't it possible that people want to know what they're buying before they spend their money?

rheostat said,
It's interesting how the article mentions "try before buy" as an excuse, not a reason. Isn't it possible that people want to know what they're buying before they spend their money?

Same thing? What is an excuse but a reason to do something that you might in other circumstances not do?

rheostat said,
It's interesting how the article mentions "try before buy" as an excuse, not a reason. Isn't it possible that people want to know what they're buying before they spend their money?

100% agree.

I used to download album to try before buying them. Now i use youtube

Saved me A LOT of money. I'm glad i did try the last Linkin Park CD before buying it.

rheostat said,
It's interesting how the article mentions "try before buy" as an excuse, not a reason. Isn't it possible that people want to know what they're buying before they spend their money?

It is the reason that many pirate though.

Bought a 1 year pass for my son last Xmas, a little cheaper if you pay for a year at a time. I think it is fantastic. He has a Zune HD and works very good, the 32GB Zune HD is a great bargain compared to anything apple offers. The Zune software is very good and most people who have used it give it high marks. Unfortunately people are sucked into apple and don't even look at the Zune HD. Microsoft has been incompetent when promoting and selling the Zune HD.

I've had Zune pass for about a year now, and once I showed it to family members, they signed up too. I've also found lots of bands I wouldn't have listened to if I had to buy their CDs by downloading playlists and using SmartDJ. Hopefully SmartDJ makes it to the phone soon. Don't listen to the haters - Zune pass is one of the best deals out there.

briangw said,
Didn't Rhapsody do this subscription service long before Zune Pass?

You say it as if they're interchangeable. Apple wasn't the first to make a smartphone yet some people prefer iPhones. Explain that?

burnblue said,

You say it as if they're interchangeable. Apple wasn't the first to make a smartphone yet some people prefer iPhones. Explain that?

No, I just don't understand why the title mentions "the answer to piracy" when Rhapsody did it long before. Can YOU explain that????

briangw said,

No, I just don't understand why the title mentions "the answer to piracy" when Rhapsody did it long before. Can YOU explain that????


It reads MICROSOFTS answer to piracy. Can you see the emphasis?

Owen W said,

It reads MICROSOFTS answer to piracy. Can you see the emphasis?

"but we're convinced that it really could be the first good attempt at the fight against piracy."

My point here was that Rhapsody did it first....

Edited by briangw, Apr 13 2011, 2:54am :

briangw said,
Didn't Rhapsody do this subscription service long before Zune Pass?

The difference is the way Microsoft attacks the problem. Zune is a combination of iTunes and Rhapsody. Zune matches the ecosystem of the device and desktop software of iTunes while at the same time offering users the opportunity to purchase music by the album, track or subscription. Thats the difference! In addition, Microsoft has did subscriptions long before Zune with its joint venture with MTV (URGE).

I have to admit that if iTunes offered a similar service (though I would prefer $9.99 / month), I would probably get it.....until then I'll have to keep downloading else where

If I had a Zune or Windows Phone device then I would definately subscribe to it - but without the devices I can't justify its use over Spotify or Grooveshark.

I was using the Zune Pass on my PC even before I bought the Samsung Focus. I love this service - I can listen to anything in the library plus get to keep 10 songs every month. I think the pricing is very reasonable. I'm in the US. They should really roll this out globally.

reverseswing said,
I was using the Zune Pass on my PC even before I bought the Samsung Focus. I love this service - I can listen to anything in the library plus get to keep 10 songs every month. I think the pricing is very reasonable. I'm in the US. They should really roll this out globally.

thats not fare.. im using it but in the uk they dont let us have 10 free songs per month

Zune Pass sucks anywhere outside of the US. You don't get 10 free DRM songs every month like the US just unlimited streaming which puts it in the same boat as Spotify and bettered by Napster which offers free songs every month like the US version of the Zune Pass on more varied price subscriptions. Microsoft fails again.

oceanmotion said,
Zune Pass sucks anywhere outside of the US. You don't get 10 free DRM songs every month like the US just unlimited streaming which puts it in the same boat as Spotify and bettered by Napster which offers free songs every month like the US version of the Zune Pass on more varied price subscriptions. Microsoft fails again.

This has been said about 5 times by now, the issue comes from the record companies not MS. Get off the MS bagging bandwagon. Take iTunes as a good example, I live in Australia and over here iTunes singles for the most part are $2.19 and in the US its $0.99, now take into account the current exchange rate which is about 1.05 USD to 1 AUD. Is this fair? Of course not, but it's not Apple's fault but the record companies.

hynesy said,

This has been said about 5 times by now, the issue comes from the record companies not MS. Get off the MS bagging bandwagon. Take iTunes as a good example, I live in Australia and over here iTunes singles for the most part are $2.19 and in the US its $0.99, now take into account the current exchange rate which is about 1.05 USD to 1 AUD. Is this fair? Of course not, but it's not Apple's fault but the record companies.

Who knows, can't say either way.

http://www.napster.co.uk/product_info.html

Napster seems to manage though.

£5 a month - 1 month Unlimited Streaming - 5 DRM Free MP3s to keep
£10 a month - 1 month Unlimited Streaming - 12 DRM Free MP3s to keep
£15 - 3 months Unlimited Streaming -15 DRM Free MP3s to keep

hynesy said,

This has been said about 5 times by now, the issue comes from the record companies not MS. Get off the MS bagging bandwagon. Take iTunes as a good example, I live in Australia and over here iTunes singles for the most part are $2.19 and in the US its $0.99, now take into account the current exchange rate which is about 1.05 USD to 1 AUD. Is this fair? Of course not, but it's not Apple's fault but the record companies.

And what's the point ?

Who cares if it's the fault of MS or the boogeyman ?

The fact is it's not offered outside of USA.

oceanmotion said,

Who knows, can't say either way.

http://www.napster.co.uk/product_info.html

Napster seems to manage though.

£5 a month - 1 month Unlimited Streaming - 5 DRM Free MP3s to keep
£10 a month - 1 month Unlimited Streaming - 12 DRM Free MP3s to keep
£15 - 3 months Unlimited Streaming -15 DRM Free MP3s to keep

That is the joy of contracts. Not everyone can negotiate the same terms...

Frazell Thomas said,

That is the joy of contracts. Not everyone can negotiate the same terms...

+1

It is very frustrating. The record companies have fought against the internet for too long now, as opposed to trying to develop a sustainable business model and revenue stream from the internet.

I believe it's again, like wp7, poorly misunderstood. And therefore, numbskulls like the guy above stuck on drm issues, prefer to live under a rock in closed-minded ignorant bliss. So much for the stone ages... with digital media, 320Kbps mp3's for $0.99 a track, and an exploding selection of flavors of media services (napster, zune, spotify, etc.) i dare say the music cd, like it's vinyl predecessor before it, is a dinosaur and my 9-year olds generation will see it into extinction. Zune just happens to be a good fit for me and my family. Guess timing is everything.

aquanaut88 said,
I believe it's again, like wp7, poorly misunderstood. And therefore, numbskulls like the guy above stuck on drm issues, prefer to live under a rock in closed-minded ignorant bliss. So much for the stone ages... with digital media, 320Kbps mp3's for $0.99 a track, and an exploding selection of flavors of media services (napster, zune, spotify, etc.) i dare say the music cd, like it's vinyl predecessor before it, is a dinosaur and my 9-year olds generation will see it into extinction. Zune just happens to be a good fit for me and my family. Guess timing is everything.

Exactly

Why do other music services have no problem expanding their reach, but MS can never get out of the US for most services?

bob_c_b said,
Why do other music services have no problem expanding their reach, but MS can never get out of the US for most services?

My only guess is that the labels are wary of rubbing iTMS the wrong way.

Sounds like a spotify premium with a few differences:
U get to keep 10 songs. So I guess all the other "unlimited downloads" are DRM'd files that can only be played on compatible devices?

Spotify premium doesnt let you keep any song but at least their app is available pretty much on every platform (iOS, android, and symbian, and I'm sure WP7 is soon to follow), windows, osx, linux, and there's other hardware with spotify support (an onkyo thing, etc).

WP7 barely has any marketshare compared to iOS+android+symbian. But when they release spotify for wp7 I can't see how zune is a better option.

Julius Caro said,
Sounds like a spotify premium with a few differences:
U get to keep 10 songs. So I guess all the other "unlimited downloads" are DRM'd files that can only be played on compatible devices?

Spotify premium doesnt let you keep any song but at least their app is available pretty much on every platform (iOS, android, and symbian, and I'm sure WP7 is soon to follow), windows, osx, linux, and there's other hardware with spotify support (an onkyo thing, etc).

WP7 barely has any marketshare compared to iOS+android+symbian. But when they release spotify for wp7 I can't see how zune is a better option.

Yes you get 10 free songs a month and anything else you can buy with points or download as DRM files. Your collection can be on up to 3 different PC's. Your collection can also be transferred to three different devices i.e. Zune devices and WP7 devices. In addition, you can stream music via Zune on the XBox 360 and you can also stream the collection on your PC via the XBox 360. And theres more......you can stream music via zune.net from any Windows PC where Zune is available.

So while Zune is not compatible with every OS out there....it sure does cover all the places where Windows lives. Windows Phone 7s marketshare does not matter because it could certainly chage in the futue so your argument there is moot. Spotfy just can't match Zune.

Now heres what I think is Zunes best feature......whenever I have a party I stream my music via my XBox and Zune profides a very cool transition on the screen of my TV with pictures of the artist, the name of the song, the album title and the countdown of the song length. Can Spotfy do that? Oh this same feature is present in the Zune desktop software and on Zune HD devices.

NPGMBR said,

Yes you get 10 free songs a month and anything else you can buy with points or download as DRM files. Your collection can be on up to 3 different PC's. Your collection can also be transferred to three different devices i.e. Zune devices and WP7 devices. In addition, you can stream music via Zune on the XBox 360 and you can also stream the collection on your PC via the XBox 360. And theres more......you can stream music via zune.net from any Windows PC where Zune is available.

So while Zune is not compatible with every OS out there....it sure does cover all the places where Windows lives. Windows Phone 7s marketshare does not matter because it could certainly chage in the futue so your argument there is moot. Spotfy just can't match Zune.

Now heres what I think is Zunes best feature......whenever I have a party I stream my music via my XBox and Zune profides a very cool transition on the screen of my TV with pictures of the artist, the name of the song, the album title and the countdown of the song length. Can Spotfy do that? Oh this same feature is present in the Zune desktop software and on Zune HD devices.

I'm not saying zune is worse, it works if you have wp7 and an xbox. It's similar price and similar features.

With zune pass u get 10 free songs a month, but with spotify whenever u stop paying, u still get to listen to the entire library (minus sporadic premium-only tracks), though only streaming on a PC.

With spotify (premium) u can have up to 3 computers synced with whichever playlists u want as well, and it wont complain if u want to stream from ANY other PC or mobile device.

So the features are definitely comparable. IMO, iOS+android+windows+osx still beats zune and WP7, which let's face it, have marginal market shares.

The only thing I miss is the xbox feature. But I wouldn't be surprised if they launch a spotify app for the ps3 (OR the 360) like there are for netflix and the iplayer.
And I dont really care about nice transitions, I mean, come on. Even when I use my ps3 to listen to music I leave the screen on audio only. And on a mobile device, 99% of the time the thing will be on my pocket or running in the background. What am I supposed to do ? be staring at a slideshow ?


I agree, Zune software is amazing and a much better player than iTunes is (faster, clean, better). And zune pass just makes it even more amazing.

It's like spotify, but cheaper, get free songs, larger library and syncing onto devices (Xbox/WP7). I don't see how anybody could insult/knock Zune/ZunePass. I've been on it for 6 months and love it. And i advise you to try it too

Must agree with the OP -- Zune is a fantastic deal and superior experience to iTunes.

Advantages: at $150/12 months you keep 120 drm-free tracks and store as much music from the master zune collection as you can fit on your NAS, 3 personal computers, 5 wp7 or zune devices. At US$0.99/track, that comes to US$3/month for an all-you-can-download experience.

Disadvantages: artists like peter gabriel, the beatles, and some of pink floyd (wish you were here are not available on zune at all (same as Rhapsody, but Amazon has for purchase). Other artists like the Eagles only available for purchase (no drm tracks).

What they don't tell you zune needs to update the device license periodically. So, before you board a very long flight, play your zune before take-off with an internet connection or else you'll find the device isn't able to verify your license and you're screwed until you land (no wifi yet on trans-pacific flights). discovered this last month between orlando and dallas... connected via 3G in dallas and was good all way to Tokyo...

One last limitation outside US, unable to purchase video (SNL reruns) even with US billing address. That's not just on Zune though.

Coup de gras: MS make zune pass playable through a Sonos device (like Wolfgang's locker, Napster, Rhapsody). Then, a wp7 control app... oh yeah! ;-)

Cheers

Sounds nice but I still prefer Spotify Premium as its available on iOS and Android (not sure about WP or Symbian though) plus desktop versions. Of course, what really matters is the catalog. While Spotify has great selection it still lacks lots of music. Also, being european, Spotify is pretty much the only choice I have.

OK so in the UK I signed into and really liked it - I have WP7, Xbox360 and laptops/pc etc. What I do not get in the UK is the 10 credits a months I think this is US only. Not very well advertised. It is now a debate to cancel it or not.

Zune pass is amazing, i only had it for a few days, but its a great idea. Stream music to my Windows Phone, Download from the PC and sync for offline use !!, and even go play them on my xbox... brilliant.. music anywhere, and everywhere !

I can't believe that Microsoft hasn't launched Zune support worldwide at this date.
They have been loosing customers/clients because of this.

I have a Windows Phone (LG Optimus 7) but I hate that I can't buy songs or applications because I live in Mexico and I can't change my account details (I opened a live id account in the US when they launched live.com) to Mexico. I'm stuck at United States

ajua said,
I can't believe that Microsoft hasn't launched Zune support worldwide at this date.
They have been loosing customers/clients because of this.

Well you do understand that for Microsoft to make the zune pass work abroad, they have to sign agreements with record labels.

Now the problem is those record labels may not be a fan of the pass since in the long run they would be making less money than if they sold those songs individually.

MrPink said,
And how did he sign up for Zune pass as it requires a US credit card with US billing address?
Exactly what I was wondering. I'd very much like to get the Zune Pass for my WP7, but even for the 14 days trial you need a credit card number.

MrPink said,
And how did he sign up for Zune pass as it requires a US credit card with US billing address?
Actually the Zune pass is available in some European countries now too.

Just to point out though, while you may need a US billing address...you might be able to get around it by entering a fake one. You'd be surprised at how often that works (hell I bought pizza the other day using a different billing address and the wrong 3 digit number and it accepted it just fine )

/- Razorfold said,
Actually the Zune pass is available in some European countries now too.

Just to point out though, while you may need a US billing address...you might be able to get around it by entering a fake one. You'd be surprised at how often that works (hell I bought pizza the other day using a different billing address and the wrong 3 digit number and it accepted it just fine )

I'm in the UK and have a Zune Pass, but its slightly different in that you don't get the 10 credits per month, just the subscription based access (which is fine as its the same as I was paying for spotify, but better and available on my phone, pc, and 360).

articuno1au said,
Now if only there were some love for AUSTRALIA.

This is my biggest hate @ Microsoft SO LITTLE LOVE

Blame the massive record companies and their unwillingness to sacrifice a little bit of profit to make their materials available there through the same program.

Reacon said,

Blame the massive record companies and their unwillingness to sacrifice a little bit of profit to make their materials available there through the same program.

I agree but once the record lables start to see that Zune its making money they will ask MS to join and not MS asking the labels to join.

Hey Owen, do you think its possible for Neowin to reach out to Microsoft and ask why its taking soooooo long for them to get their act together?

First the Zune hardware it self and this is still a coming soon feature?? Phone 7 went off with little to no delay...

I definitely loved the Zune Pass when I had it. Always recommened it to others. What's not to love about keeping 10 songs a month and having access to millions more?

Basically you are making you buy 10 songs a month, and pay $5 a month for your unlimited subscription. Not a bad deal, but I like my $10 a month for unlimited downloads on rhapsody.

reidtheweed01 said,
Basically you are making you buy 10 songs a month, and pay $5 a month for your unlimited subscription. Not a bad deal, but I like my $10 a month for unlimited downloads on rhapsody.

It really is not that bad of a deal, but I should point out that (at least the last time I used Zune Pass about a year ago) the 10 songs that you keep each month are not DRM-free. Most services (Amazon, iTunes, and even Zune) would give you DRM-free songs for your money.

So in reality, it is unlimited download and keep 10 songs a month that you can use and enjoy so long as you use a Zune or WP7 device.

Shadrack said,

It really is not that bad of a deal, but I should point out that (at least the last time I used Zune Pass about a year ago) the 10 songs that you keep each month are not DRM-free. Most services (Amazon, iTunes, and even Zune) would give you DRM-free songs for your money.

So in reality, it is unlimited download and keep 10 songs a month that you can use and enjoy so long as you use a Zune or WP7 device.


Sorry to tell you but the 10 songs are DRM-free and you can used them on any player or computer and you don't have keep paying them to keep them.

Signed up for it last night. The streaming experience on the xbox is simply amazing. Thinking of a Windows Phone cause of this now

Now if only it was able to be accesed down under???

I think zune pass is the next big thing... If it would actually become available here...

Zune pass + 360 + ???? = Winning

Owning a Phone 7 + Zune + 360 makes this more and more appealing for me... But it was hard enough getting my Zune from the US let alone the pass on my main account

brent3000 said,
Now if only it was able to be accesed down under???

I think zune pass is the next big thing... If it would actually become available here...

Zune pass + 360 + ???? = Winning

Owning a Phone 7 + Zune + 360 makes this more and more appealing for me... But it was hard enough getting my Zune from the US let alone the pass on my main account

Ya, you just gotta blame the labels and the copyright holders in other countries for holding back the expansion of Zune services to more places. I doubt MS doesn't want to spread it out, but if the price/cost/red tape is too much to handle they'll just sit and wait.