Elliot B. Posted September 27, 2016 Share Posted September 27, 2016 (edited) I have 6x MKV video files. They're 1.45 GB each. If I convert them to x265 and keep all the same attributes (frame size, frame rate, audio, overall quality etc.), will the overall file size be lower? If so, how can I achieve this in Windows? General Format : Matroska Format version : Version 2 File size : 1.46 GiB Duration : 29 min Overall bit rate : 6 999 kb/s Encoded date : UTC 2012-11-20 08:14:33 Writing application : mkvmerge v4.9.1 ('Ich will') built on Jul 11 2011 23:53:15 Writing library : libebml v1.2.1 + libmatroska v1.1.1 Video ID : 1 Format : AVC Format/Info : Advanced Video Codec Format profile : High@L4.1 Format settings, CABAC : Yes Format settings, ReFrames : 5 frames Codec ID : V_MPEG4/ISO/AVC Duration : 29 min Bit rate : 5 486 kb/s Width : 1 280 pixels Height : 720 pixels Display aspect ratio : 16:9 Frame rate mode : Constant Frame rate : 25.000 FPS Color space : YUV Chroma subsampling : 4:2:0 Bit depth : 8 bits Scan type : Progressive Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 0.238 Stream size : 1.11 GiB (76%) Writing library : x264 core 129 r2230 1cffe9f Encoding settings : cabac=1 / ref=5 / deblock=1:-1:-1 / analyse=0x3:0x113 / me=umh / subme=7 / psy=1 / psy_rd=1.00:0.15 / mixed_ref=1 / me_range=16 / chroma_me=1 / trellis=1 / 8x8dct=1 / cqm=0 / deadzone=21,11 / fast_pskip=1 / chroma_qp_offset=-3 / threads=6 / lookahead_threads=1 / sliced_threads=0 / nr=0 / decimate=1 / interlaced=0 / bluray_compat=0 / constrained_intra=0 / bframes=3 / b_pyramid=2 / b_adapt=2 / b_bias=0 / direct=1 / weightb=1 / open_gop=0 / weightp=2 / keyint=250 / keyint_min=25 / scenecut=40 / intra_refresh=0 / rc_lookahead=40 / rc=2pass / mbtree=1 / bitrate=5486 / ratetol=1.0 / qcomp=0.60 / qpmin=0 / qpmax=69 / qpstep=4 / cplxblur=20.0 / qblur=0.5 / ip_ratio=1.40 / aq=1:1.00 Language : English Default : Yes Forced : No Audio ID : 2 Format : DTS Format/Info : Digital Theater Systems Mode : 16 Format settings, Endianness : Big Codec ID : A_DTS Duration : 29 min Bit rate mode : Constant Bit rate : 1 509 kb/s Channel(s) : 6 channels Channel positions : Front: L C R, Side: L R, LFE Sampling rate : 48.0 kHz Frame rate : 93.750 FPS (512 spf) Bit depth : 24 bits Compression mode : Lossy Stream size : 322 MiB (22%) Language : English Default : Yes Forced : No Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 fusi0n Posted September 27, 2016 Share Posted September 27, 2016 Sounds like a task for Handbrake Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Circaflex Posted September 27, 2016 Share Posted September 27, 2016 Step 1: Download Handbrake Step 2: Convert 1 file Step 3: Check file size Step 4: profit? Theoretically it should end up being a smaller file, isnt that one of the benefits to HEVC/H.265? Really isn't rocket science Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 +BudMan MVC Posted October 1, 2016 MVC Share Posted October 1, 2016 Lets say they are reduced by 50% your talking of a savings of bit over 4GB total. While if you had 600 or 6K files like this I could see doing this. But for 6? Is this a test run before you do your whole library. Is there some other reason you need to shrink these files. To fit on a usb stick or something. What will you be playing the files with, does it support x265? I have done this with some files with handbrake pretty simple.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 AndyMutz Posted October 1, 2016 Share Posted October 1, 2016 keep in mind that re-encoding the video _will_ reduce the quality. whether you will be able to see it or not, is another question.. -andy- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 +BudMan MVC Posted October 1, 2016 MVC Share Posted October 1, 2016 "will_ reduce the quality" "whether you will be able to see it or not, is another question.." Not really true.. Would depend on the settings used for the conversion. And if you can not see it anyway with the human eye than the point is moot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 AndyMutz Posted October 2, 2016 Share Posted October 2, 2016 every time you transcode audio or video using lossy codecs the quality gets reduced, encoding settings don't matter. -andy- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 +BudMan MVC Posted October 2, 2016 MVC Share Posted October 2, 2016 Lets try this again "And if you can not see it anyway with the human eye than the point is moot." Who says the mkv files are lossy source? Maybe it lossless move to the mkv container. MKV is a container, it can contain lossless video files from the source. Which both x264 and x265 can do. This is my point about settings. What the OP has or doesn't have is also moot to my answer to your statement. Yes I agree with you that if you encode lossy and then lossy again, then yes there will be some loss from the original. But if you take your source and encode it to x264 and x265 it can be done lossless to the source. Moving from a source that is lossless and converting it to a different codex also lossless -- what quality would be lost? And then again it all comes down to if the OP can see a difference.. I just converted a copy I had of radar men from the moon.. Old movie serial from 1952.. Quality was never all that good. But the file I had was 4.7GB in size. I converted it to mp4 with x265 using handbrake.. My new size is only 2GB.. If the OP is worried about size, I highly doubt he is too worried about the slight less quality the video might be if done correctly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Circaflex Posted October 6, 2016 Share Posted October 6, 2016 OP any updates? Did you get it figured out? Or is this yet another thread by Elliot where he leaves to never return with any update or solution? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Elliot B.
I have 6x MKV video files.
They're 1.45 GB each.
If I convert them to x265 and keep all the same attributes (frame size, frame rate, audio, overall quality etc.), will the overall file size be lower?
If so, how can I achieve this in Windows?
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