Time for a new SpaceX Updates  Thread 9. New info, and a too long thread 8   Thread 8:   Musk at ISS R&D   In line with the earlier comments before Congress that pushed  for a cis-lunar COTS program.   Translation: a high risk of failure on the first flight. No duh!     Subscale BFR/BFS confirmed to better make the business case (but still very large), and sooner so it can be used in LEO and cis-lunar space.   Red Dragon