Anasfeea Posted July 31, 2018 Share Posted July 31, 2018 I just set a new login password for Windows 10 pc yesterday ,It's an 8- character password, I remember writing it down on a paper last night, but it was gone, and I couldn't remember the password ,is there any way I can restore them back? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick H. Supervisor Posted July 31, 2018 Supervisor Share Posted July 31, 2018 Because it's Windows 10, if your PC account is linked to your Microsoft account there should be a "forgot password" option. But if the account isn't linked to a Microsoft account you don't have many options available. You'll pretty much have to reset the machine, which removes all of the data as well. You can see how to do that here: https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/help/4028457/windows-10-reset-your-local-account-password Shiranui and DConnell 1 1 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+E.Worm Jimmy Subscriber¹ Posted July 31, 2018 Subscriber¹ Share Posted July 31, 2018 8 minutes ago, Nick H. said: You'll pretty much have to reset the machine, which removes all of the data as well. or,you know, you don't have to lose data... if you actually remove hard drive, put it in any other machine with windows 10 where you run an admin account, and go to the user folder, and when prompted, grant yourself access. windows 10 security is basically useless if you have physical access to the machine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xendrome Posted July 31, 2018 Share Posted July 31, 2018 47 minutes ago, Jimmy #1 said: or,you know, you don't have to lose data... if you actually remove hard drive, put it in any other machine with windows 10 where you run an admin account, and go to the user folder, and when prompted, grant yourself access. windows 10 security is basically useless if you have physical access to the machine. That's only going to get him into his data, perhaps he doesn't want to reload the whole system? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xahid Posted July 31, 2018 Share Posted July 31, 2018 There are lot of free utilities which offer to reset windows login credentials . SteveCac, Raa and Terry504 3 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
episode Posted July 31, 2018 Share Posted July 31, 2018 1 hour ago, Nick H. said: Because it's Windows 10, if your PC account is linked to your Microsoft account there should be a "forgot password" option. But if the account isn't linked to a Microsoft account you don't have many options available. You'll pretty much have to reset the machine, which removes all of the data as well. You can see how to do that here: https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/help/4028457/windows-10-reset-your-local-account-password This is patently false. If you have physical access, you just need a CD/DVD/USB to boot from and a utility to help you do so. Such as the ones on https://www.hirensbootcd.org and https://pogostick.net/~pnh/ntpasswd/ You can also do it from a normal Windows install DVD from command prompt if you want to do the registry edits yourself. Or there is the option of using a Windows 10 install DVD/USB to do the following: 1) Boot from the installer and go into recovery. 2) Go into command prompt. 3) Navigate to c:\windows\system32 4) Ren utilman.exe utilman.old 5) copy cmd.exe utilman.exe 6) Reboot the PC. 7) Click on the Accessibility icon in the corner 8- You'll get Command Prompt 9) net user administrator /active:yes 10) Reboot the PC. 11) Log into the Administrator account 12) Change password on the account you lost the password to. 13) Go back and undo steps 4,5, and 9 if you want. +InsaneNutter, DConnell, +E.Worm Jimmy and 2 others 4 1 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Som Posted July 31, 2018 Share Posted July 31, 2018 you can also reboot into recovery , or boot from a boot disk, rename the cmd.exe to utilman.exe , restart the computer, click on the ease of access button on the login screen (bottom right), it then opens a cmd prompt.. you can then enable the admin account by typing "net user /active:yes administrator" without the quotes, reboot and log in as administrator and change the password. you can also use the net user command to reset or change your password.... Just now, episode said: This is patently false. If you have physical access, you just need a CD/DVD/USB to boot from and a utility to help you do so. Such as the ones on https://www.hirensbootcd.org and https://pogostick.net/~pnh/ntpasswd/ You can also do it from a normal Windows install DVD from command prompt if you want to do the registry edits yourself. Or there is the option of using a Windows 10 install DVD/USB to do the following: 1) Boot from the installer and go into recovery. 2) Go into command prompt. 3) Navigate to c:\windows\system32 4) Ren utilman.exe utilman.old 5) copy cmd.exe utilman.exe 6) Reboot the PC. 7) Click on the Accessibility icon in the corner 8- You'll get Command Prompt 9) net user administrator /active:yes 10) Reboot the PC. 11) Log into the Administrator account 12) Change password on the account you lost the password to. 13) Go back and undo steps 4,5, and 9 if you want. ah ya beat me to it by seconds ? +E.Worm Jimmy 1 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Wilmi Posted August 1, 2018 Share Posted August 1, 2018 13 hours ago, episode said: This is patently false. If you have physical access, you just need a CD/DVD/USB to boot from and a utility to help you do so. Such as the ones on https://www.hirensbootcd.org and https://pogostick.net/~pnh/ntpasswd/ You can also do it from a normal Windows install DVD from command prompt if you want to do the registry edits yourself. Or there is the option of using a Windows 10 install DVD/USB to do the following: 1) Boot from the installer and go into recovery. 2) Go into command prompt. 3) Navigate to c:\windows\system32 4) Ren utilman.exe utilman.old 5) copy cmd.exe utilman.exe 6) Reboot the PC. 7) Click on the Accessibility icon in the corner 8- You'll get Command Prompt 9) net user administrator /active:yes 10) Reboot the PC. 11) Log into the Administrator account 12) Change password on the account you lost the password to. 13) Go back and undo steps 4,5, and 9 if you want. Just make a little change with the above trick and we can create a new admin user for signing into Windows. This is especially useful when we're locked out of a Microsoft account. Additionally, an 8-character password could also be recovered using the free password cracking software Ophcrack. If password reset/recovery is not feasible, restoring the system back to a previous backup point could be a good alternative. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anasfeea Posted August 1, 2018 Author Share Posted August 1, 2018 19 hours ago, Nick H. said: Because it's Windows 10, if your PC account is linked to your Microsoft account there should be a "forgot password" option. But if the account isn't linked to a Microsoft account you don't have many options available. You'll pretty much have to reset the machine, which removes all of the data as well. You can see how to do that here: https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/help/4028457/windows-10-reset-your-local-account-password First , thank you very much for your advice , unfortunately, i haven't used Microsoft account yet .I'll try to follow your advice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anasfeea Posted August 1, 2018 Author Share Posted August 1, 2018 19 hours ago, Jimmy #1 said: or,you know, you don't have to lose data... if you actually remove hard drive, put it in any other machine with windows 10 where you run an admin account, and go to the user folder, and when prompted, grant yourself access. windows 10 security is basically useless if you have physical access to the machine. I've learned , It would be best to minimize the risk to other data on the computer . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+E.Worm Jimmy Subscriber¹ Posted August 3, 2018 Subscriber¹ Share Posted August 3, 2018 On 8/1/2018 at 2:30 AM, Anasfeea said: I've learned , It would be best to minimize the risk to other data on the computer . so.. what happened. there was some great advice posted after me. did you use it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adrynalyne Posted August 3, 2018 Share Posted August 3, 2018 On 7/31/2018 at 4:54 AM, episode said: This is patently false. If you have physical access, you just need a CD/DVD/USB to boot from and a utility to help you do so. Such as the ones on https://www.hirensbootcd.org and https://pogostick.net/~pnh/ntpasswd/ You can also do it from a normal Windows install DVD from command prompt if you want to do the registry edits yourself. Or there is the option of using a Windows 10 install DVD/USB to do the following: 1) Boot from the installer and go into recovery. 2) Go into command prompt. 3) Navigate to c:\windows\system32 4) Ren utilman.exe utilman.old 5) copy cmd.exe utilman.exe 6) Reboot the PC. 7) Click on the Accessibility icon in the corner 8- You'll get Command Prompt 9) net user administrator /active:yes 10) Reboot the PC. 11) Log into the Administrator account 12) Change password on the account you lost the password to. 13) Go back and undo steps 4,5, and 9 if you want. Why not just do it all at the command prompt and then you don’t need to add an additional security hole to your machine? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anasfeea Posted August 3, 2018 Author Share Posted August 3, 2018 I've tried it. It's mostly based on text format ,too complicated . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveCac Posted August 3, 2018 Share Posted August 3, 2018 On 7/31/2018 at 12:40 PM, Xahid said: There are lot of free utilities which offer to reset windows login credentials . This every time for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
episode Posted August 3, 2018 Share Posted August 3, 2018 47 minutes ago, Anasfeea said: I've tried it. It's mostly based on text format ,too complicated . Yes, its in command prompt, but I gave you the commands you need to type in. I guess except for step 3. That should just be first c: then cd windows\system32 Then do the rest. If you can't just follow the directions, you'll need to either use one of the utilities posted (which might be a little more complicated without a walkthrough) or bring the computer to someone who knows what they are doing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
episode Posted August 3, 2018 Share Posted August 3, 2018 8 hours ago, adrynalyne said: Why not just do it all at the command prompt and then you don’t need to add an additional security hole to your machine? You can't create a new user from recovery/boot disk. adrynalyne 1 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adrynalyne Posted August 3, 2018 Share Posted August 3, 2018 (edited) 2 hours ago, episode said: You can't create a new user from recovery/boot disk. Why create a new user when you can use an existing one? https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.howtogeek.com/75470/how-to-enable-the-hidden-windows-7-admin-account-using-the-registry/amp/ It has worked since Windows XP all the way up to 8. There is also another way for newer. Let me find a link. Edit: Guess they changed it for 10. There is another backdoor Indoubt they closed from the days I did MS support but that one I don’t give out because it runs the risk of destroying the OS. Edited August 3, 2018 by adrynalyne Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
episode Posted August 3, 2018 Share Posted August 3, 2018 41 minutes ago, adrynalyne said: Why create a new user when you can use an existing one? https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.howtogeek.com/75470/how-to-enable-the-hidden-windows-7-admin-account-using-the-registry/amp/ It has worked since Windows XP all the way up to 8. There is also another way for newer. Let me find a link. Edit: Guess they changed it for 10. There is another backdoor Indoubt they closed from the days I did MS support but that one I don’t give out because it runs the risk of destroying the OS. What in the name of ######? The method I posted does the exact same thing - turns on the Administrator account via command prompt from a boot device or recovery. Going into the registry to do so is MORE complicated, not less. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adrynalyne Posted August 3, 2018 Share Posted August 3, 2018 (edited) 6 hours ago, episode said: What in the name of ######? The method I posted does the exact same thing - turns on the Administrator account via command prompt from a boot device or recovery. Going into the registry to do so is MORE complicated, not less. I didn’t say it was easier kiddo. It’s more secure than renaming something and creating a security hole. Less secure methods are often easier LOL. Moot point as it was apparently changed in 10. Learn to read, eh? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
episode Posted August 3, 2018 Share Posted August 3, 2018 53 minutes ago, adrynalyne said: I didn’t say it was easier kiddo. It’s more secure than renaming something and creating a security hole. Less secure methods are often easier LOL. Moot point as it was apparently changed in 10. Learn to read, eh? To close the 'security hole' you just delete the renamed utilman.exe and set utilman.old back to utilman.exe. I even said in the last step to undo what you did in those steps. Not complicated 'kiddo'. +Warwagon 1 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adrynalyne Posted August 4, 2018 Share Posted August 4, 2018 5 hours ago, episode said: To close the 'security hole' you just delete the renamed utilman.exe and set utilman.old back to utilman.exe. I even said in the last step to undo what you did in those steps. Not complicated 'kiddo'. Which most people won’t do. Duh. My method wouldn’t create it in the first place and anyone who can read is perfectly safe doing it. Again, all a moot point, kiddo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anasfeea Posted August 7, 2018 Author Share Posted August 7, 2018 On 8/3/2018 at 8:01 PM, episode said: Yes, its in command prompt, but I gave you the commands you need to type in. I guess except for step 3. That should just be first c: then cd windows\system32 Then do the rest. If you can't just follow the directions, you'll need to either use one of the utilities posted (which might be a little more complicated without a walkthrough) or bring the computer to someone who knows what they are doing. I left for several days.(On a business trip) ,that was the first thing I did when I came back, thanks . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Warwagon MVC Posted August 7, 2018 MVC Share Posted August 7, 2018 On 8/3/2018 at 4:42 PM, episode said: To close the 'security hole' you just delete the renamed utilman.exe and set utilman.old back to utilman.exe. I even said in the last step to undo what you did in those steps. Not complicated 'kiddo'. Wouldn't that mean you just deleted CMD as you need to rename utilman.exe to utilman.old and cmd.exe to utilman.exe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
episode Posted August 7, 2018 Share Posted August 7, 2018 10 hours ago, warwagon said: Wouldn't that mean you just deleted CMD as you need to rename utilman.exe to utilman.old and cmd.exe to utilman.exe ... aren't you an IT consultant? What does step #5 say? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anasfeea Posted August 10, 2018 Author Share Posted August 10, 2018 On 8/7/2018 at 11:57 AM, warwagon said: Wouldn't that mean you just deleted CMD as you need to rename utilman.exe to utilman.old and cmd.exe to utilman.exe It seems complicated....... anyway , thanks . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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