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  3. Normally I'd agree but there's the first war of the worlds radio broadcast that proves people will believe the dumbest ######. On the other hand if there was no censorship, more of the more outlandish statements would start circulating and people might actually realize twitter is not a reliable source of anything else other than other people's opinions. Now imagine if after the War of the Worlds broadcast, radio stations banned sci-fi in that format from ever airing again just because some people believed it was true. Note this line from Wikipedia, "Welles later remarked that Hitler cited the effect of the broadcast on the American public as evidence of "the corrupt condition and decadent state of affairs in democracy"." So Hitler was an authoritarian that used the broadcast as evidence why democracy was bad and speech needed to be controlled. Radio stations and twitter are not the same platform type. Hitler was also a head of state, Twitter is a user-based platform, they don't even begin to compare to each other. Not really the issue. The issue is whether the public can be trusted with open conversation, and whether a few people being stupid is reason enough to institute heavy controls. Twitter can't police everyone, that's just not possible. But they can institute guidelines for a section of users, for example, politicians that use their services. The real question is, would Twitter need to do this had we not have a President so willing to put out false information to begin with? Chances are no they wouldn't. At the end of the day, none of this changes the fact that twitter still decides what's best for their platform, not the user. If users don't like it, they are free to go elsewhere. Yea, the broader concern with most Twitter users (getting beyond this narrow issue) is whether they're applying their TOC equally, and a lot of users think they don't. If enough Twitter users think they don't and their users are unhappy, they have some choices as a business to make regarding what rules they have and how to apply them. If you have enough unhappy customers its not an issue you can deal with by saying "Its our business, deal with it!" There are going to be consequences for Twitter down the line, both from a business stand point and (IMO) a legal standpoint. It's safe to say that it's not equal. 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auto;">https://twitter.com/BizarreLaz...atus%2F1267570556880076801" rel="external nofollow">https://twitter.com/BizarreLaz...tatus%2F1267570556880076801 Trump is free to post things that others get suspended for. You can bet that is because Trump is POTUS but at the same time, there are no rules saying they have to be equal in their practices. If enough users are upset and want to band together to boycott Twitter, that's just the free market at work and twitter will have to deal with that. Til that happens, the current facts stand and that is Twitter is the ultimate decider of how they run their platform. Yea, because Twitter has different rules for public figures vs. private figures. Which is a whole other issue than whether they create facially neutral rules and apply them unequally. Seems like you answered your own concerns. They don't, and again, they don't have too. No, I didn't. But whatever. Its not like you care to have a conversation. I thought that's what we were doing, having a conversation. I already established that Twitter doesn't treat every user the same, as pointed out that tweeting Trump's same tweets is ok for him for not for others. My point is that they don't have to treat everyone the same, there is no rule book to say otherwise. Odds are if Trump wasn't POTUS, he would have been suspended a long time ago. That may not be fair but from Twitter's POV, he's prob good business for them. Again that's ok, people don't have to like it but again, so what. Well, if they have a rule that public figures are treated differently than private figures, then that's another rule that provides an exemption, not unequal enforcement. Its not a rule that I agree with, because I don't think public figures and private figures should be treated differently, but at least its transparent. According to this page there are about 330 million accounts with roughly half being daily active users. I think it's safe to say that Twitter doesn't have the ability to watch over all of them. Sure people can report questionable tweets but that won't stop the flow of misinformation. From a business POV, I don't think Twitter should treat public figures the same as private ones. That's my view but I also get why some want both to be treated equally. But again, at the end of it, it's still up to Twitter to decide how to balance things out at their benefit and for those that don't like it, simply don't use it. That's honestly the best way to affect Twitter's overall views. Yea, though the issue isn't even whether they watch over all of them equally, but whether on the ones they do watch and happen to check, they make biased decisions due to their rules being overly subjective. My view is that Twitter should stay away from subjectively applicable rules that are open to bias, stick to a few clear rules that are objectively applicable, and try to enforce them equally. This would make the most sense from a purely business POV imo. The way they're approaching the platform now is just making moderation an overcomplicated mess that will leave everyone unhappy. I'm just talking about the business POV at the moment. Personally I think the major problem with Twitter as a platform is how highly centralized it is, same thing with Facebook -- and decentralized social media platforms would work much better for people and avoid a lot of the debates people are having. Rather than pushing for the decentralization of social media, I always see the complainers turn into a legal and political debate, which is unfortunate. I don't necessarily think that Twitter is going to be free of legal or political questions, just my view, but we'll see how that plays out. In your opinion how would decentralizing social media platforms work better for the people? Lots of reasons why I think its not the best idea to have a social media platform on one central server managed by a single company. Relating specifically to what we're talking about, it would mollify perceptions of unfairness, and allow a variety of standards by different servers, then it would be up to the user how they would want to moderate their own feed. Anyway, the reason no competitor to Twitter or Facebook has taken off is not because it can't be done better, its a bandwagon issue. If all your friends are on Facebook and Twitter, you're not likely to go to another platform even if you're unhappy with Facebook and Twitter.
  4. Well, whatever you think you know there's a reason why the question of politicians lying is answered by "their lips are moving." Claiming one or another is "worst ever," "dumbest ever," or "most crooked ever" comes from an ignorance of the species.
  5. techbeck

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    I lied...I also use Google Voice Dialer every now and then when I use my GV line.
  6. Normally I'd agree but there's the first war of the worlds radio broadcast that proves people will believe the dumbest ######. On the other hand if there was no censorship, more of the more outlandish statements would start circulating and people might actually realize twitter is not a reliable source of anything else other than other people's opinions. Now imagine if after the War of the Worlds broadcast, radio stations banned sci-fi in that format from ever airing again just because some people believed it was true. Note this line from Wikipedia, "Welles later remarked that Hitler cited the effect of the broadcast on the American public as evidence of "the corrupt condition and decadent state of affairs in democracy"." So Hitler was an authoritarian that used the broadcast as evidence why democracy was bad and speech needed to be controlled. Radio stations and twitter are not the same platform type. Hitler was also a head of state, Twitter is a user-based platform, they don't even begin to compare to each other. Not really the issue. The issue is whether the public can be trusted with open conversation, and whether a few people being stupid is reason enough to institute heavy controls. Twitter can't police everyone, that's just not possible. But they can institute guidelines for a section of users, for example, politicians that use their services. The real question is, would Twitter need to do this had we not have a President so willing to put out false information to begin with? Chances are no they wouldn't. At the end of the day, none of this changes the fact that twitter still decides what's best for their platform, not the user. If users don't like it, they are free to go elsewhere. Yea, the broader concern with most Twitter users (getting beyond this narrow issue) is whether they're applying their TOC equally, and a lot of users think they don't. If enough Twitter users think they don't and their users are unhappy, they have some choices as a business to make regarding what rules they have and how to apply them. If you have enough unhappy customers its not an issue you can deal with by saying "Its our business, deal with it!" There are going to be consequences for Twitter down the line, both from a business stand point and (IMO) a legal standpoint. It's safe to say that it's not equal. Here is an example of that. https://twitter.com/BizarreLaz...2F1267570556880076801" rel="external nofollow">https://twitter.com/BizarreLaz...2F1267570556880076801" rel="external nofollow" style="user-select: auto;">https://twitter.com/BizarreLaz...2F1267570556880076801" rel="external nofollow">https://twitter.com/BizarreLaz...2F1267570556880076801" rel="external nofollow" style="user-select: auto;">https://twitter.com/BizarreLaz...2F1267570556880076801" rel="external nofollow" style="user-select: auto;">https://twitter.com/BizarreLaz...2F1267570556880076801" rel="external nofollow">https://twitter.com/BizarreLaz...2F1267570556880076801" rel="external nofollow" style="user-select: auto;">https://twitter.com/BizarreLaz...2F1267570556880076801" rel="external nofollow">https://twitter.com/BizarreLaz...2F1267570556880076801" rel="external nofollow" style="user-select: auto;">https://twitter.com/BizarreLaz...2F1267570556880076801" rel="external nofollow" style="user-select: 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nofollow">https://twitter.com/BizarreLaz...atus%2F1267570556880076801" rel="external nofollow" style="user-select: auto;">https://twitter.com/BizarreLaz...2F1267570556880076801" rel="external nofollow" style="user-select: auto;">https://twitter.com/BizarreLaz...2F1267570556880076801" rel="external nofollow">https://twitter.com/BizarreLaz...atus%2F1267570556880076801" rel="external nofollow" style="user-select: auto;">https://twitter.com/BizarreLaz...tatus%2F1267570556880076801 Trump is free to post things that others get suspended for. You can bet that is because Trump is POTUS but at the same time, there are no rules saying they have to be equal in their practices. If enough users are upset and want to band together to boycott Twitter, that's just the free market at work and twitter will have to deal with that. Til that happens, the current facts stand and that is Twitter is the ultimate decider of how they run their platform. Yea, because Twitter has different rules for public figures vs. private figures. Which is a whole other issue than whether they create facially neutral rules and apply them unequally. Seems like you answered your own concerns. They don't, and again, they don't have too. No, I didn't. But whatever. Its not like you care to have a conversation. I thought that's what we were doing, having a conversation. I already established that Twitter doesn't treat every user the same, as pointed out that tweeting Trump's same tweets is ok for him for not for others. My point is that they don't have to treat everyone the same, there is no rule book to say otherwise. Odds are if Trump wasn't POTUS, he would have been suspended a long time ago. That may not be fair but from Twitter's POV, he's prob good business for them. Again that's ok, people don't have to like it but again, so what. Well, if they have a rule that public figures are treated differently than private figures, then that's another rule that provides an exemption, not unequal enforcement. Its not a rule that I agree with, because I don't think public figures and private figures should be treated differently, but at least its transparent. According to this page there are about 330 million accounts with roughly half being daily active users. I think it's safe to say that Twitter doesn't have the ability to watch over all of them. Sure people can report questionable tweets but that won't stop the flow of misinformation. From a business POV, I don't think Twitter should treat public figures the same as private ones. That's my view but I also get why some want both to be treated equally. But again, at the end of it, it's still up to Twitter to decide how to balance things out at their benefit and for those that don't like it, simply don't use it. That's honestly the best way to affect Twitter's overall views. Yea, though the issue isn't even whether they watch over all of them equally, but whether on the ones they do watch and happen to check, they make biased decisions due to their rules being overly subjective. My view is that Twitter should stay away from subjectively applicable rules that are open to bias, stick to a few clear rules that are objectively applicable, and try to enforce them equally. This would make the most sense from a purely business POV imo. The way they're approaching the platform now is just making moderation an overcomplicated mess that will leave everyone unhappy. I'm just talking about the business POV at the moment. Personally I think the major problem with Twitter as a platform is how highly centralized it is, same thing with Facebook -- and decentralized social media platforms would work much better for people and avoid a lot of the debates people are having. Rather than pushing for the decentralization of social media, I always see the complainers turn into a legal and political debate, which is unfortunate. I don't necessarily think that Twitter is going to be free of legal or political questions, just my view, but we'll see how that plays out. In your opinion how would decentralizing social media platforms work better for the people?
  7. Normally I'd agree but there's the first war of the worlds radio broadcast that proves people will believe the dumbest ######. On the other hand if there was no censorship, more of the more outlandish statements would start circulating and people might actually realize twitter is not a reliable source of anything else other than other people's opinions. Now imagine if after the War of the Worlds broadcast, radio stations banned sci-fi in that format from ever airing again just because some people believed it was true. Note this line from Wikipedia, "Welles later remarked that Hitler cited the effect of the broadcast on the American public as evidence of "the corrupt condition and decadent state of affairs in democracy"." So Hitler was an authoritarian that used the broadcast as evidence why democracy was bad and speech needed to be controlled. Radio stations and twitter are not the same platform type. Hitler was also a head of state, Twitter is a user-based platform, they don't even begin to compare to each other. Not really the issue. The issue is whether the public can be trusted with open conversation, and whether a few people being stupid is reason enough to institute heavy controls. Twitter can't police everyone, that's just not possible. But they can institute guidelines for a section of users, for example, politicians that use their services. The real question is, would Twitter need to do this had we not have a President so willing to put out false information to begin with? Chances are no they wouldn't. At the end of the day, none of this changes the fact that twitter still decides what's best for their platform, not the user. If users don't like it, they are free to go elsewhere. Yea, the broader concern with most Twitter users (getting beyond this narrow issue) is whether they're applying their TOC equally, and a lot of users think they don't. If enough Twitter users think they don't and their users are unhappy, they have some choices as a business to make regarding what rules they have and how to apply them. If you have enough unhappy customers its not an issue you can deal with by saying "Its our business, deal with it!" There are going to be consequences for Twitter down the line, both from a business stand point and (IMO) a legal standpoint. It's safe to say that it's not equal. Here is an example of that. https://twitter.com/BizarreLaz...atus%2F1267570556880076801" rel="external nofollow">https://twitter.com/BizarreLaz...2F1267570556880076801" rel="external nofollow">https://twitter.com/BizarreLaz...2F1267570556880076801" rel="external nofollow" style="user-select: auto;">https://twitter.com/BizarreLaz...2F1267570556880076801" rel="external nofollow">https://twitter.com/BizarreLaz...2F1267570556880076801" rel="external nofollow">https://twitter.com/BizarreLaz...2F1267570556880076801" rel="external nofollow" style="user-select: auto;">https://twitter.com/BizarreLaz...2F1267570556880076801" rel="external nofollow">https://twitter.com/BizarreLaz...2F1267570556880076801" rel="external nofollow" style="user-select: auto;">https://twitter.com/BizarreLaz...2F1267570556880076801" rel="external nofollow">https://twitter.com/BizarreLaz...2F1267570556880076801" rel="external nofollow">https://twitter.com/BizarreLaz...2F1267570556880076801" rel="external nofollow" style="user-select: auto;">https://twitter.com/BizarreLaz...2F1267570556880076801" rel="external nofollow">https://twitter.com/BizarreLaz...2F1267570556880076801" rel="external nofollow">https://twitter.com/BizarreLaz...2F1267570556880076801" rel="external nofollow" style="user-select: auto;">https://twitter.com/BizarreLaz...2F1267570556880076801" rel="external nofollow">https://twitter.com/BizarreLaz...2F1267570556880076801" rel="external nofollow" style="user-select: auto;">https://twitter.com/BizarreLaz...2F1267570556880076801" rel="external nofollow">https://twitter.com/BizarreLaz...2F1267570556880076801" rel="external nofollow">https://twitter.com/BizarreLaz...2F1267570556880076801" rel="external nofollow" style="user-select: auto;">https://twitter.com/BizarreLaz...2F1267570556880076801" rel="external nofollow">https://twitter.com/BizarreLaz...2F1267570556880076801" rel="external nofollow" style="user-select: auto;">https://twitter.com/BizarreLaz...atus%2F1267570556880076801" rel="external nofollow">https://twitter.com/BizarreLaz...2F1267570556880076801" rel="external nofollow">https://twitter.com/BizarreLaz...2F1267570556880076801" rel="external nofollow" style="user-select: auto;">https://twitter.com/BizarreLaz...2F1267570556880076801" rel="external nofollow">https://twitter.com/BizarreLaz...2F1267570556880076801" rel="external nofollow">https://twitter.com/BizarreLaz...2F1267570556880076801" rel="external nofollow" style="user-select: auto;">https://twitter.com/BizarreLaz...2F1267570556880076801" rel="external nofollow">https://twitter.com/BizarreLaz...2F1267570556880076801" rel="external nofollow" style="user-select: auto;">https://twitter.com/BizarreLaz...atus%2F1267570556880076801" rel="external nofollow">https://twitter.com/BizarreLaz...2F1267570556880076801" rel="external nofollow">https://twitter.com/BizarreLaz...2F1267570556880076801" rel="external nofollow" style="user-select: auto;">https://twitter.com/BizarreLaz...atus%2F1267570556880076801" rel="external nofollow">https://twitter.com/BizarreLaz...tatus%2F1267570556880076801 Trump is free to post things that others get suspended for. You can bet that is because Trump is POTUS but at the same time, there are no rules saying they have to be equal in their practices. If enough users are upset and want to band together to boycott Twitter, that's just the free market at work and twitter will have to deal with that. Til that happens, the current facts stand and that is Twitter is the ultimate decider of how they run their platform. Yea, because Twitter has different rules for public figures vs. private figures. Which is a whole other issue than whether they create facially neutral rules and apply them unequally. Seems like you answered your own concerns. They don't, and again, they don't have too. No, I didn't. But whatever. Its not like you care to have a conversation. I thought that's what we were doing, having a conversation. I already established that Twitter doesn't treat every user the same, as pointed out that tweeting Trump's same tweets is ok for him for not for others. My point is that they don't have to treat everyone the same, there is no rule book to say otherwise. Odds are if Trump wasn't POTUS, he would have been suspended a long time ago. That may not be fair but from Twitter's POV, he's prob good business for them. Again that's ok, people don't have to like it but again, so what. Well, if they have a rule that public figures are treated differently than private figures, then that's another rule that provides an exemption, not unequal enforcement. Its not a rule that I agree with, because I don't think public figures and private figures should be treated differently, but at least its transparent. According to this page there are about 330 million accounts with roughly half being daily active users. I think it's safe to say that Twitter doesn't have the ability to watch over all of them. Sure people can report questionable tweets but that won't stop the flow of misinformation. From a business POV, I don't think Twitter should treat public figures the same as private ones. That's my view but I also get why some want both to be treated equally. But again, at the end of it, it's still up to Twitter to decide how to balance things out at their benefit and for those that don't like it, simply don't use it. That's honestly the best way to affect Twitter's overall views. Yea, though the issue isn't even whether they watch over all of them equally, but whether on the ones they do watch and happen to check, they make biased decisions due to their rules being overly subjective. My view is that Twitter should stay away from subjectively applicable rules that are open to bias, stick to a few clear rules that are objectively applicable, and try to enforce them equally. This would make the most sense from a purely business POV imo. The way they're approaching the platform now is just making moderation an overcomplicated mess that will leave everyone unhappy. I'm just talking about the business POV at the moment. Personally I think the major problem with Twitter as a platform is how highly centralized it is, same thing with Facebook -- and decentralized social media platforms would work much better for people and avoid a lot of the debates people are having. Rather than pushing for the decentralization of social media, I always see the complainers turn into a legal and political debate, which is unfortunate. I don't necessarily think that Twitter is going to be free of legal or political questions, just my view, but we'll see how that plays out.
  8. DentedAphid7

    Images of the new Xbox Store for Windows surface online

    How many redesigns does Microsoft need? I mean...
  9. That still doesn't change the subjectivness of your post. By which you're adding to that subjectiveness with your "50+ yeas of experience" rhetoric.
  10. PWA = progressive web apps for anyone like me who had no idea what that meant. Might want to mention this next time for the uninitiated.
  11. Well let's see: https://play.google.com/store/...pCovid19Cat&hl=en" rel="external nofollow">https://play.google.com/store/...i.StopCovid19Cat&hl=en" rel="external nofollow">https://play.google.com/store/...bi.StopCovid19Cat&hl=en "Installs 500,000+" Can't find a direct link on web apple app store but it shows as 112th most downloaded app in the 'health & fitness' category So yes I do believe their stats are accurate. if did not know better i would this virus larks is a swiz, but i do think that it is an excuse for them to control people Yep.... you don't know better
  12. Jim K

    Phone dialer app

    Stock dialer also. Though I use the little phone icon on webpages to send the number to the phone. Those are pretty cool. 🙂
  13. Normally I'd agree but there's the first war of the worlds radio broadcast that proves people will believe the dumbest ######. On the other hand if there was no censorship, more of the more outlandish statements would start circulating and people might actually realize twitter is not a reliable source of anything else other than other people's opinions. Now imagine if after the War of the Worlds broadcast, radio stations banned sci-fi in that format from ever airing again just because some people believed it was true. Note this line from Wikipedia, "Welles later remarked that Hitler cited the effect of the broadcast on the American public as evidence of "the corrupt condition and decadent state of affairs in democracy"." So Hitler was an authoritarian that used the broadcast as evidence why democracy was bad and speech needed to be controlled. Radio stations and twitter are not the same platform type. Hitler was also a head of state, Twitter is a user-based platform, they don't even begin to compare to each other. Not really the issue. The issue is whether the public can be trusted with open conversation, and whether a few people being stupid is reason enough to institute heavy controls. Twitter can't police everyone, that's just not possible. But they can institute guidelines for a section of users, for example, politicians that use their services. The real question is, would Twitter need to do this had we not have a President so willing to put out false information to begin with? Chances are no they wouldn't. At the end of the day, none of this changes the fact that twitter still decides what's best for their platform, not the user. If users don't like it, they are free to go elsewhere. Yea, the broader concern with most Twitter users (getting beyond this narrow issue) is whether they're applying their TOC equally, and a lot of users think they don't. If enough Twitter users think they don't and their users are unhappy, they have some choices as a business to make regarding what rules they have and how to apply them. If you have enough unhappy customers its not an issue you can deal with by saying "Its our business, deal with it!" There are going to be consequences for Twitter down the line, both from a business stand point and (IMO) a legal standpoint. It's safe to say that it's not equal. Here is an example of that. https://twitter.com/BizarreLaz...2F1267570556880076801" rel="external nofollow">https://twitter.com/BizarreLaz...2F1267570556880076801" rel="external nofollow" style="user-select: auto;">https://twitter.com/BizarreLaz...2F1267570556880076801" rel="external nofollow">https://twitter.com/BizarreLaz...2F1267570556880076801" rel="external nofollow" style="user-select: auto;">https://twitter.com/BizarreLaz...2F1267570556880076801" rel="external nofollow" style="user-select: auto;">https://twitter.com/BizarreLaz...2F1267570556880076801" rel="external nofollow">https://twitter.com/BizarreLaz...2F1267570556880076801" rel="external nofollow" style="user-select: auto;">https://twitter.com/BizarreLaz...2F1267570556880076801" rel="external nofollow">https://twitter.com/BizarreLaz...atus%2F1267570556880076801" rel="external nofollow" style="user-select: auto;">https://twitter.com/BizarreLaz...2F1267570556880076801" rel="external nofollow" style="user-select: auto;">https://twitter.com/BizarreLaz...2F1267570556880076801" rel="external nofollow">https://twitter.com/BizarreLaz...2F1267570556880076801" rel="external nofollow" style="user-select: auto;">https://twitter.com/BizarreLaz...2F1267570556880076801" rel="external nofollow" style="user-select: auto;">https://twitter.com/BizarreLaz...2F1267570556880076801" rel="external nofollow">https://twitter.com/BizarreLaz...2F1267570556880076801" rel="external nofollow" style="user-select: auto;">https://twitter.com/BizarreLaz...2F1267570556880076801" rel="external nofollow">https://twitter.com/BizarreLaz...atus%2F1267570556880076801" rel="external nofollow" style="user-select: auto;">https://twitter.com/BizarreLaz...2F1267570556880076801" rel="external nofollow" style="user-select: auto;">https://twitter.com/BizarreLaz...2F1267570556880076801" rel="external nofollow">https://twitter.com/BizarreLaz...atus%2F1267570556880076801" rel="external nofollow" style="user-select: auto;">https://twitter.com/BizarreLaz...tatus%2F1267570556880076801 Trump is free to post things that others get suspended for. You can bet that is because Trump is POTUS but at the same time, there are no rules saying they have to be equal in their practices. If enough users are upset and want to band together to boycott Twitter, that's just the free market at work and twitter will have to deal with that. Til that happens, the current facts stand and that is Twitter is the ultimate decider of how they run their platform. Yea, because Twitter has different rules for public figures vs. private figures. Which is a whole other issue than whether they create facially neutral rules and apply them unequally. Seems like you answered your own concerns. They don't, and again, they don't have too. No, I didn't. But whatever. Its not like you care to have a conversation. I thought that's what we were doing, having a conversation. I already established that Twitter doesn't treat every user the same, as pointed out that tweeting Trump's same tweets is ok for him for not for others. My point is that they don't have to treat everyone the same, there is no rule book to say otherwise. Odds are if Trump wasn't POTUS, he would have been suspended a long time ago. That may not be fair but from Twitter's POV, he's prob good business for them. Again that's ok, people don't have to like it but again, so what. Well, if they have a rule that public figures are treated differently than private figures, then that's another rule that provides an exemption, not unequal enforcement. Its not a rule that I agree with, because I don't think public figures and private figures should be treated differently, but at least its transparent. A quick search shows there are about 330 million accounts with roughly half being daily active users. I think it's safe to say that Twitter doesn't have the ability to watch over all of them. Sure people can report questionable tweets but that won't stop the flow of misinformation. From a business POV, I don't think Twitter should treat public figures the same as private ones. That's my view but I also get why some want both to be treated equally. But again, at the end of it, it's still up to Twitter to decide how to balance things out at their benefit and for those that don't like it, simply don't use it. That's honestly the best way to affect Twitter's overall views.
  14. It's to reel people in that only want it on Steam. Funny that the free to claim period is NOT being offered on Steam (instead, it is on the Epic Games Store). It doesn't fit the logic. ? It is exclusive to Epic store for 1 year. They know a large chunk of people will only buy the game on Steam. How do you combat that? You offer it for free initially, those people who would buy it on Steam in 1 years time will be unable to resist getting it for free. In the future those people are more likely to buy games on Epic store because they now have an account.
  15. techbeck

    Phone dialer app

    I use the Default phone app. Always have. Saw no reason for me to change it. Also, why help you out? What are you looking to do?
  16. warwagon

    Phone dialer app

    I use the stock Android Dialer.
  17. Bruinator

    Phone dialer app

    Come on guys, I know you use them. Help me out on what you use plz? TIA
  18. That's 50+ years of experience watching and dealing with politicians, some of which weren't indicted because the prosecutors deemed them too stupid to know they did wrong (seriously, and recent.)
  19. Normally I'd agree but there's the first war of the worlds radio broadcast that proves people will believe the dumbest ######. On the other hand if there was no censorship, more of the more outlandish statements would start circulating and people might actually realize twitter is not a reliable source of anything else other than other people's opinions. Now imagine if after the War of the Worlds broadcast, radio stations banned sci-fi in that format from ever airing again just because some people believed it was true. Note this line from Wikipedia, "Welles later remarked that Hitler cited the effect of the broadcast on the American public as evidence of "the corrupt condition and decadent state of affairs in democracy"." So Hitler was an authoritarian that used the broadcast as evidence why democracy was bad and speech needed to be controlled. Radio stations and twitter are not the same platform type. Hitler was also a head of state, Twitter is a user-based platform, they don't even begin to compare to each other. Not really the issue. The issue is whether the public can be trusted with open conversation, and whether a few people being stupid is reason enough to institute heavy controls. Twitter can't police everyone, that's just not possible. But they can institute guidelines for a section of users, for example, politicians that use their services. The real question is, would Twitter need to do this had we not have a President so willing to put out false information to begin with? Chances are no they wouldn't. At the end of the day, none of this changes the fact that twitter still decides what's best for their platform, not the user. If users don't like it, they are free to go elsewhere. Yea, the broader concern with most Twitter users (getting beyond this narrow issue) is whether they're applying their TOC equally, and a lot of users think they don't. If enough Twitter users think they don't and their users are unhappy, they have some choices as a business to make regarding what rules they have and how to apply them. If you have enough unhappy customers its not an issue you can deal with by saying "Its our business, deal with it!" There are going to be consequences for Twitter down the line, both from a business stand point and (IMO) a legal standpoint. It's safe to say that it's not equal. Here is an example of that. https://twitter.com/BizarreLaz...atus%2F1267570556880076801" rel="external nofollow">https://twitter.com/BizarreLaz...2F1267570556880076801" rel="external nofollow">https://twitter.com/BizarreLaz...2F1267570556880076801" rel="external nofollow" style="user-select: auto;">https://twitter.com/BizarreLaz...2F1267570556880076801" rel="external nofollow">https://twitter.com/BizarreLaz...2F1267570556880076801" rel="external nofollow">https://twitter.com/BizarreLaz...2F1267570556880076801" rel="external nofollow" style="user-select: auto;">https://twitter.com/BizarreLaz...2F1267570556880076801" rel="external nofollow">https://twitter.com/BizarreLaz...2F1267570556880076801" rel="external nofollow" style="user-select: auto;">https://twitter.com/BizarreLaz...atus%2F1267570556880076801" rel="external nofollow">https://twitter.com/BizarreLaz...2F1267570556880076801" rel="external nofollow">https://twitter.com/BizarreLaz...2F1267570556880076801" rel="external nofollow" style="user-select: auto;">https://twitter.com/BizarreLaz...atus%2F1267570556880076801" rel="external nofollow">https://twitter.com/BizarreLaz...tatus%2F1267570556880076801 Trump is free to post things that others get suspended for. You can bet that is because Trump is POTUS but at the same time, there are no rules saying they have to be equal in their practices. If enough users are upset and want to band together to boycott Twitter, that's just the free market at work and twitter will have to deal with that. Til that happens, the current facts stand and that is Twitter is the ultimate decider of how they run their platform. Yea, because Twitter has different rules for public figures vs. private figures. Which is a whole other issue than whether they create facially neutral rules and apply them unequally. Seems like you answered your own concerns. They don't, and again, they don't have too. No, I didn't. But whatever. Its not like you care to have a conversation. I thought that's what we were doing, having a conversation. I already established that Twitter doesn't treat every user the same, as pointed out that tweeting Trump's same tweets is ok for him for not for others. My point is that they don't have to treat everyone the same, there is no rule book to say otherwise. Odds are if Trump wasn't POTUS, he would have been suspended a long time ago. That may not be fair but from Twitter's POV, he's prob good business for them. Again that's ok, people don't have to like it but again, so what. Well, if they have a rule that public figures are treated differently than private figures, then that's another rule that provides an exemption, not unequal enforcement. Its not a rule that I agree with, because I don't think public figures and private figures should be treated differently, but at least its transparent.
  20. dustojnikhummer

    Images of the new Xbox Store for Windows surface online

    If it still uses the awful Windows Store in the background nothing will help. And that doesn't address the worst part of Gamepass. Locked down game files. Just look at how many broken ports are on Gamepass! Exodus and Rage 2 are examples of that. But since game files are encrypted we can't fix anything
  21. Normally I'd agree but there's the first war of the worlds radio broadcast that proves people will believe the dumbest ######. On the other hand if there was no censorship, more of the more outlandish statements would start circulating and people might actually realize twitter is not a reliable source of anything else other than other people's opinions. Now imagine if after the War of the Worlds broadcast, radio stations banned sci-fi in that format from ever airing again just because some people believed it was true. Note this line from Wikipedia, "Welles later remarked that Hitler cited the effect of the broadcast on the American public as evidence of "the corrupt condition and decadent state of affairs in democracy"." So Hitler was an authoritarian that used the broadcast as evidence why democracy was bad and speech needed to be controlled. Radio stations and twitter are not the same platform type. Hitler was also a head of state, Twitter is a user-based platform, they don't even begin to compare to each other. Not really the issue. The issue is whether the public can be trusted with open conversation, and whether a few people being stupid is reason enough to institute heavy controls. Twitter can't police everyone, that's just not possible. But they can institute guidelines for a section of users, for example, politicians that use their services. The real question is, would Twitter need to do this had we not have a President so willing to put out false information to begin with? Chances are no they wouldn't. At the end of the day, none of this changes the fact that twitter still decides what's best for their platform, not the user. If users don't like it, they are free to go elsewhere. Yea, the broader concern with most Twitter users (getting beyond this narrow issue) is whether they're applying their TOC equally, and a lot of users think they don't. If enough Twitter users think they don't and their users are unhappy, they have some choices as a business to make regarding what rules they have and how to apply them. If you have enough unhappy customers its not an issue you can deal with by saying "Its our business, deal with it!" There are going to be consequences for Twitter down the line, both from a business stand point and (IMO) a legal standpoint. It's safe to say that it's not equal. Here is an example of that. https://twitter.com/BizarreLaz...2F1267570556880076801" rel="external nofollow">https://twitter.com/BizarreLaz...2F1267570556880076801" rel="external nofollow" style="user-select: auto;">https://twitter.com/BizarreLaz...2F1267570556880076801" rel="external nofollow">https://twitter.com/BizarreLaz...atus%2F1267570556880076801" rel="external nofollow" style="user-select: auto;">https://twitter.com/BizarreLaz...2F1267570556880076801" rel="external nofollow" style="user-select: auto;">https://twitter.com/BizarreLaz...2F1267570556880076801" rel="external nofollow">https://twitter.com/BizarreLaz...atus%2F1267570556880076801" rel="external nofollow" style="user-select: auto;">https://twitter.com/BizarreLaz...tatus%2F1267570556880076801 Trump is free to post things that others get suspended for. You can bet that is because Trump is POTUS but at the same time, there are no rules saying they have to be equal in their practices. If enough users are upset and want to band together to boycott Twitter, that's just the free market at work and twitter will have to deal with that. Til that happens, the current facts stand and that is Twitter is the ultimate decider of how they run their platform. Yea, because Twitter has different rules for public figures vs. private figures. Which is a whole other issue than whether they create facially neutral rules and apply them unequally. Seems like you answered your own concerns. They don't, and again, they don't have too. No, I didn't. But whatever. Its not like you care to have a conversation. I thought that's what we were doing, having a conversation. I already established that Twitter doesn't treat every user the same, as pointed out that tweeting Trump's same tweets is ok for him for not for others. My point is that they don't have to treat everyone the same, there is no rule book to say otherwise. Odds are if Trump wasn't POTUS, he would have been suspended a long time ago. That may not be fair but from Twitter's POV, he's prob good business for them. Again that's ok, people don't have to like it but again, so what.
  22. Today
  23. Normally I'd agree but there's the first war of the worlds radio broadcast that proves people will believe the dumbest ######. On the other hand if there was no censorship, more of the more outlandish statements would start circulating and people might actually realize twitter is not a reliable source of anything else other than other people's opinions. Now imagine if after the War of the Worlds broadcast, radio stations banned sci-fi in that format from ever airing again just because some people believed it was true. Note this line from Wikipedia, "Welles later remarked that Hitler cited the effect of the broadcast on the American public as evidence of "the corrupt condition and decadent state of affairs in democracy"." So Hitler was an authoritarian that used the broadcast as evidence why democracy was bad and speech needed to be controlled. Radio stations and twitter are not the same platform type. Hitler was also a head of state, Twitter is a user-based platform, they don't even begin to compare to each other. Not really the issue. The issue is whether the public can be trusted with open conversation, and whether a few people being stupid is reason enough to institute heavy controls. Twitter can't police everyone, that's just not possible. But they can institute guidelines for a section of users, for example, politicians that use their services. The real question is, would Twitter need to do this had we not have a President so willing to put out false information to begin with? Chances are no they wouldn't. At the end of the day, none of this changes the fact that twitter still decides what's best for their platform, not the user. If users don't like it, they are free to go elsewhere. Yea, the broader concern with most Twitter users (getting beyond this narrow issue) is whether they're applying their TOC equally, and a lot of users think they don't. If enough Twitter users think they don't and their users are unhappy, they have some choices as a business to make regarding what rules they have and how to apply them. If you have enough unhappy customers its not an issue you can deal with by saying "Its our business, deal with it!" There are going to be consequences for Twitter down the line, both from a business stand point and (IMO) a legal standpoint. It's safe to say that it's not equal. Here is an example of that. https://twitter.com/BizarreLaz...atus%2F1267570556880076801" rel="external nofollow">https://twitter.com/BizarreLaz...2F1267570556880076801" rel="external nofollow">https://twitter.com/BizarreLaz...2F1267570556880076801" rel="external nofollow" style="user-select: auto;">https://twitter.com/BizarreLaz...atus%2F1267570556880076801" rel="external nofollow">https://twitter.com/BizarreLaz...tatus%2F1267570556880076801 Trump is free to post things that others get suspended for. You can bet that is because Trump is POTUS but at the same time, there are no rules saying they have to be equal in their practices. If enough users are upset and want to band together to boycott Twitter, that's just the free market at work and twitter will have to deal with that. Til that happens, the current facts stand and that is Twitter is the ultimate decider of how they run their platform. Yea, because Twitter has different rules for public figures vs. private figures. Which is a whole other issue than whether they create facially neutral rules and apply them unequally. Seems like you answered your own concerns. They don't, and again, they don't have too. No, I didn't. But whatever. Its not like you care to have a conversation.
  24. Normally I'd agree but there's the first war of the worlds radio broadcast that proves people will believe the dumbest ######. On the other hand if there was no censorship, more of the more outlandish statements would start circulating and people might actually realize twitter is not a reliable source of anything else other than other people's opinions. Now imagine if after the War of the Worlds broadcast, radio stations banned sci-fi in that format from ever airing again just because some people believed it was true. Note this line from Wikipedia, "Welles later remarked that Hitler cited the effect of the broadcast on the American public as evidence of "the corrupt condition and decadent state of affairs in democracy"." So Hitler was an authoritarian that used the broadcast as evidence why democracy was bad and speech needed to be controlled. Radio stations and twitter are not the same platform type. Hitler was also a head of state, Twitter is a user-based platform, they don't even begin to compare to each other. Not really the issue. The issue is whether the public can be trusted with open conversation, and whether a few people being stupid is reason enough to institute heavy controls. Twitter can't police everyone, that's just not possible. But they can institute guidelines for a section of users, for example, politicians that use their services. The real question is, would Twitter need to do this had we not have a President so willing to put out false information to begin with? Chances are no they wouldn't. At the end of the day, none of this changes the fact that twitter still decides what's best for their platform, not the user. If users don't like it, they are free to go elsewhere. Yea, the broader concern with most Twitter users (getting beyond this narrow issue) is whether they're applying their TOC equally, and a lot of users think they don't. If enough Twitter users think they don't and their users are unhappy, they have some choices as a business to make regarding what rules they have and how to apply them. If you have enough unhappy customers its not an issue you can deal with by saying "Its our business, deal with it!" There are going to be consequences for Twitter down the line, both from a business stand point and (IMO) a legal standpoint. It's safe to say that it's not equal. Here is an example of that. https://twitter.com/BizarreLaz...2F1267570556880076801" rel="external nofollow">https://twitter.com/BizarreLaz...atus%2F1267570556880076801" rel="external nofollow" style="user-select: auto;">https://twitter.com/BizarreLaz...tatus%2F1267570556880076801 Trump is free to post things that others get suspended for. You can bet that is because Trump is POTUS but at the same time, there are no rules saying they have to be equal in their practices. If enough users are upset and want to band together to boycott Twitter, that's just the free market at work and twitter will have to deal with that. Til that happens, the current facts stand and that is Twitter is the ultimate decider of how they run their platform. Yea, because Twitter has different rules for public figures vs. private figures. Which is a whole other issue than whether they create facially neutral rules and apply them unequally. Seems like you answered your own concerns. They don't, and again, they don't have too.
  25. Normally I'd agree but there's the first war of the worlds radio broadcast that proves people will believe the dumbest ######. On the other hand if there was no censorship, more of the more outlandish statements would start circulating and people might actually realize twitter is not a reliable source of anything else other than other people's opinions. Now imagine if after the War of the Worlds broadcast, radio stations banned sci-fi in that format from ever airing again just because some people believed it was true. Note this line from Wikipedia, "Welles later remarked that Hitler cited the effect of the broadcast on the American public as evidence of "the corrupt condition and decadent state of affairs in democracy"." So Hitler was an authoritarian that used the broadcast as evidence why democracy was bad and speech needed to be controlled. Radio stations and twitter are not the same platform type. Hitler was also a head of state, Twitter is a user-based platform, they don't even begin to compare to each other. Not really the issue. The issue is whether the public can be trusted with open conversation, and whether a few people being stupid is reason enough to institute heavy controls. Twitter can't police everyone, that's just not possible. But they can institute guidelines for a section of users, for example, politicians that use their services. The real question is, would Twitter need to do this had we not have a President so willing to put out false information to begin with? Chances are no they wouldn't. At the end of the day, none of this changes the fact that twitter still decides what's best for their platform, not the user. If users don't like it, they are free to go elsewhere. Yea, the broader concern with most Twitter users (getting beyond this narrow issue) is whether they're applying their TOC equally, and a lot of users think they don't. If enough Twitter users think they don't and their users are unhappy, they have some choices as a business to make regarding what rules they have and how to apply them. If you have enough unhappy customers its not an issue you can deal with by saying "Its our business, deal with it!" There are going to be consequences for Twitter down the line, both from a business stand point and (IMO) a legal standpoint. It's safe to say that it's not equal. Here is an example of that. https://twitter.com/BizarreLaz...atus%2F1267570556880076801" rel="external nofollow">https://twitter.com/BizarreLaz...tatus%2F1267570556880076801 Trump is free to post things that others get suspended for. You can bet that is because Trump is POTUS but at the same time, there are no rules saying they have to be equal in their practices. If enough users are upset and want to band together to boycott Twitter, that's just the free market at work and twitter will have to deal with that. Til that happens, the current facts stand and that is Twitter is the ultimate decider of how they run their platform. Yea, because Twitter has different rules for public figures vs. private figures. Which is a whole other issue than whether they create facially neutral rules and apply them unequally.
  26. Normally I'd agree but there's the first war of the worlds radio broadcast that proves people will believe the dumbest ######. On the other hand if there was no censorship, more of the more outlandish statements would start circulating and people might actually realize twitter is not a reliable source of anything else other than other people's opinions. Now imagine if after the War of the Worlds broadcast, radio stations banned sci-fi in that format from ever airing again just because some people believed it was true. Note this line from Wikipedia, "Welles later remarked that Hitler cited the effect of the broadcast on the American public as evidence of "the corrupt condition and decadent state of affairs in democracy"." So Hitler was an authoritarian that used the broadcast as evidence why democracy was bad and speech needed to be controlled. Radio stations and twitter are not the same platform type. Hitler was also a head of state, Twitter is a user-based platform, they don't even begin to compare to each other. Not really the issue. The issue is whether the public can be trusted with open conversation, and whether a few people being stupid is reason enough to institute heavy controls. Twitter can't police everyone, that's just not possible. But they can institute guidelines for a section of users, for example, politicians that use their services. The real question is, would Twitter need to do this had we not have a President so willing to put out false information to begin with? Chances are no they wouldn't. At the end of the day, none of this changes the fact that twitter still decides what's best for their platform, not the user. If users don't like it, they are free to go elsewhere. Yea, the broader concern with most Twitter users (getting beyond this narrow issue) is whether they're applying their TOC equally, and a lot of users think they don't. If enough Twitter users think they don't and their users are unhappy, they have some choices as a business to make regarding what rules they have and how to apply them. If you have enough unhappy customers its not an issue you can deal with by saying "Its our business, deal with it!" There are going to be consequences for Twitter down the line, both from a business stand point and (IMO) a legal standpoint. It's safe to say that it's not equal. Here is an example of that. https://twitter.com/BizarreLaz...tatus%2F1267570556880076801 Trump is free to post things that others get suspended for. You can bet that is because Trump is POTUS but at the same time, there are no rules saying they have to be equal in their practices. If enough users are upset and want to band together to boycott Twitter, that's just the free market at work and twitter will have to deal with that. Til that happens, the current facts stand and that is Twitter is the ultimate decider of how they run their platform.
  27. Normally I'd agree but there's the first war of the worlds radio broadcast that proves people will believe the dumbest ######. On the other hand if there was no censorship, more of the more outlandish statements would start circulating and people might actually realize twitter is not a reliable source of anything else other than other people's opinions. Now imagine if after the War of the Worlds broadcast, radio stations banned sci-fi in that format from ever airing again just because some people believed it was true. Note this line from Wikipedia, "Welles later remarked that Hitler cited the effect of the broadcast on the American public as evidence of "the corrupt condition and decadent state of affairs in democracy"." So Hitler was an authoritarian that used the broadcast as evidence why democracy was bad and speech needed to be controlled. Radio stations and twitter are not the same platform type. Hitler was also a head of state, Twitter is a user-based platform, they don't even begin to compare to each other. Not really the issue. The issue is whether the public can be trusted with open conversation, and whether a few people being stupid is reason enough to institute heavy controls. Twitter can't police everyone, that's just not possible. But they can institute guidelines for a section of users, for example, politicians that use their services. The real question is, would Twitter need to do this had we not have a President so willing to put out false information to begin with? Chances are no they wouldn't. At the end of the day, none of this changes the fact that twitter still decides what's best for their platform, not the user. If users don't like it, they are free to go elsewhere. Yea, the broader concern with most Twitter users (getting beyond this narrow issue) is whether they're applying their TOC equally, and a lot of users think they don't. If enough Twitter users think they don't and their users are unhappy, they have some choices as a business to make regarding what rules they have and how to apply them. If you have enough unhappy customers its not an issue you can deal with by saying "Its our business, deal with it!" There are going to be consequences for Twitter down the line, both from a business stand point and (IMO) a legal standpoint.
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