nX07 Posted January 30, 2007 Share Posted January 30, 2007 Okay well I have Vista Ultimate Upgrade (retail) sitting right beside me, unopened.. and when I read the news about the deactivation of your XP CD-Key I said no way am I installing.. but let me call Microsoft to confirm all is well. I asked them the question straight up if my XP Key becomes deactivated and I can no longer activate any installations with that CD-Key.. they said no thats not true, it will NOT deactivate your key. Then, to make sure, I gave them the senario to ensure they were on the same page as me. I basically said in the event I need to format and re-install my OS; I will obiviously first need to install XP and Activitate it before I can "upgrade" it to vista. So, in this case, I will still be able to install and activiate XP again even though I've already performed an upgrade on this license before, right? They said yes I will have no problems. So, as per the customer service agent in the department of licensing and product information we should all be fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ahfunaki Posted January 30, 2007 Share Posted January 30, 2007 good to know... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blachole Posted January 30, 2007 Share Posted January 30, 2007 I ended up installing it anyways, but this settles my stomach after reading all the stories about this. Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trparky Posted January 30, 2007 Share Posted January 30, 2007 Thank you! That's been a question that I've had for the past two days. Nice to have an official answer to this nagging question. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJLunacy Posted January 30, 2007 Share Posted January 30, 2007 good to know, I didn't think that would be the case in light of the needing to install and activate XP before the upgrade. But stranger things have happened. Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bilemke Posted January 31, 2007 Share Posted January 31, 2007 nX07 asked the exact question I thought of as soon as I noticed this topic. Vista Upgrades requiring a activated copy of XP would only be able to install Vista once and never reinstall (if this de-activating keys thing were true). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gambit MEM Posted January 31, 2007 Share Posted January 31, 2007 Thanks! Your time and effort on this are greatly appreciated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dirtfarmer Posted February 4, 2007 Share Posted February 4, 2007 https://www.neowin.net/forum/index.php?show...#entry588277583 EULA/CD Key De-activation blah blah blah Answer, I called MS Okay well I have Vista Ultimate Upgrade (retail) sitting right beside me, unopened.. and when I read the news about the deactivation of your XP CD-Key I said no way am I installing.. but let me call Microsoft to confirm all is well. I asked them the question straight up if my XP Key becomes deactivated and I can no longer activate any installations with that CD-Key.. they said no thats not true, it will NOT deactivate your key. Then, to make sure, I gave them the senario to ensure they were on the same page as me. I basically said in the event I need to format and re-install my OS; I will obiviously first need to install XP and Activitate it before I can "upgrade" it to vista. So, in this case, I will still be able to install and activiate XP again even though I've already performed an upgrade on this license before, right? They said yes I will have no problems. So, as per the customer service agent in the department of licensing and product information we should all be fine. ................................ http://www.tomcoyote.org/tech/vista-upgrad...your-xp-key/74/ Vista upgrade invalidates your XP key If you choose to purchase an upgrade version of Windows Vista to upgrade XP, you will no longer be able to use that version of XP. Either on another system, or as a dual-boot option. The key will be invalidated, preventing activation. From Vista?s EULA found here (PDF) : 13. UPGRADES. To use upgrade software, you must first be licensed for the software that is eligiblefor the upgrade. Upon upgrade, this agreement takes the place of the agreement for the software you upgraded from. After you upgrade, you may no longer use the software you upgraded from. For many people this may not be a problem, but it?s a change from earlier versions of Windows. Update: Workaround posted here! http://www.tomcoyote.org/security/workarou...pgrade-dvds/76/ Workaround For Clean Install With Vista Upgrade DVDs ActiveWin published a workaround provided by Microsoft internal documentation for Vista Upgrade DVDs that will not invalidate the Windows XP Key, as discussed here. Edit Update: As noted in the comments below, Blair provided the original source, not credited by ActiveWin, as Paul Thurrott. ?Per Microsoft?s new licensing requirements for Vista, users are required to install a Windows Vista Upgrade from within Windows XP. When this occurs, the Windows XP license is forfeited and the Windows Vista installation process can take place. Now, however, this workaround allows users to perform a ?clean install.? The process is a bit tedious, but is not hard are all to complete. Users have to perform these simple steps to perform a clean install of Vista without a previous version of Windows installed with an upgrade DVD: 1. Boot from the Windows Vista Upgrade DVD and start the setup program. 2. When prompted to enter your product key, DO NOT enter it. Click ?Next? and proceed with setup. This will install Windows Vista as a 30-day trial. 3. When prompted, select the edition of Vista which you have purchased and continue with setup. 4. Once setup has been completed and you have been brought to the desktop for the first time, run the install program from within Windows Vista. 5. This time, type in your product key when prompted. 6. When asked whether to perform an Upgrade or Custom (advanced) install, choose Custom (advanced) to perform a clean install of Vista. Yes, this means that you will have to install Vista for a second time. 7. Once setup has completed for the second time, you should be able to activate Windows Vista normally. You can also delete the Windows.old directory which contains information from the first Vista install.? ....................................... http://forums.cnet.com/5208-10152_102-0.ht...amp;tag=nl.e729 Buzz Out Loud Lounge: Is it true? Vista upgrades invalidate XP licenses??? ................................................ http://forums.winxpcentral.com/showthread.php?p=42580 Vista upgrade invalidates your XP key Yea, this was a topic of discussion at the Launch Today. I was asked this question by a very nice couple. If you choose to purchase an upgrade version of Windows Vista to upgrade XP, you will no longer be able to use that version of XP. Either on another system, or as a dual-boot option. The key will be invalidated, preventing activation You can relax people, this has been proven incorrect. See https://www.neowin.net/forum/index.ph...entry588277583 Even Microsoft knows that if they did this, they would be really shooting themselves in the foot. And besides, the XP EULA has the same clause. 9. UPGRADES. To use Software identified as an upgrade, you must first be licensed for the software identified by Microsoft as eligible for the upgrade. After upgrading, you may no longer use the software that formed the basis for your upgrade eligibility. Its just that this is the first time Microsoft will be taking the ability of just feeding the installer a CD of a past version of Windows away from us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nX07 Posted February 4, 2007 Author Share Posted February 4, 2007 Welcome to the wonderful world of Internet Media.. one some source reads the EULA the wrong way and spits out bent truth, everybody else is there to spit it out again. Not only did Microsoft confirm this is not true, but there was also several people here on neowin in various threads that let known their XP keys were not invalid after their upgrade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DKAngel Posted February 4, 2007 Share Posted February 4, 2007 if ppl didnt freak out everytime so much bullcrap wouldnt spread so fast use your common sence ppl! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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