m4ch1n3g0d Posted September 11, 2003 Share Posted September 11, 2003 I was just wondering if there is anyone here who believes the RIAA is doing something good? I have not had the oportunity to meet anyone who was pro-riaa yet. At least not anyone who really studys up on what they are doing. I am definetly against the RIAA so much to the point of that i feel bad even purchasing albums from mainstreem labels. I feel as if i am supporting them in some way. It irritates me to hear bands support them also in example Metallica of which i have heard went so far as to seach cars at their concerts for burned copys of albums in order to fine people who the catch with them. This has gone way too far, and I believe that they are damaging their name, making it obviouse they dont care about the artists or music, but more about their fat little pockets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fotix Posted September 11, 2003 Share Posted September 11, 2003 There are some on this site who are pro-RIAA; I am not one of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[hxc] Posted September 11, 2003 Share Posted September 11, 2003 its all a question of morals. i believe people who purposely download just cause they are too cheap to buy a cd, are in the wrong. me personally i download to find new bands. because of downloading i currently have a 500+ cd collection of band i would not know of any other way. i guess thats all i have to say. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
m4ch1n3g0d Posted September 11, 2003 Author Share Posted September 11, 2003 its all a question of morals. i believe people who purposely download just cause they are too cheap to buy a cd, are in the wrong. me personally i download to find new bands. because of downloading i currently have a 500+ cd collection of band i would not know of any other way. i guess thats all i have to say. Yeah, I agree. Its horrible to just buy an album and hate it though, or try out a band and waste your money. I personally like to have the album the way it was intended to be, with the art and cover and all. Plus the quality is always so much better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mAcOdIn Veteran Posted September 11, 2003 Veteran Share Posted September 11, 2003 It depends on what point you ask on wether I'm pro-RIAA or not. On one hand they are clearly price gouging us. There is absolutely no reason why it should cost them more to manufacture a cd than a cassette. The cd prices were supposed to go down long ago. Further more the equipment needed to actually record an album has also gone down considerably, hell Trent Reznor did the And All That Could Have Been Live DVD on a powermac. These savings in cost should have been transferred to the consumer long ago but they never have. Further more I think that the consumer really wants something like the Apple iTunes store, there are very few albums that I want to buy full, usually I just want a song or two from them, and I won't pay 15 dollars for 2 songs. That said I don't think there name or image even matters. They are a business, Metallica is a business. If an artist was really doing it all for the music they would be happy living out of a band making 50 bucks a night but that's not what it's about. They like the money and hiting it big is a goal that almost all aspiring musicians have wether they say it or not. Furthermore it needs to be a business. Now I'm not saying they all need to make millions but if every artist has to have a full time job on the side then eventually they'd stop making music and get a job with real money to support themselves and thier family. But that being said I also see why the RIAA is doing what they are doing. It's clearly within thier legal rights to pursue file sharers, and in catching file sharers they are breaking no laws because they don't actually hack your pc they just see what files you're sharing and that's completely legal, so they're doing no wrong there. And it was never our inailiable right to download music for free, it's just that we have been able to do so for so long it *seems* like we should be able to. I never heard of the Metallica thing about searching cars though that's just silly, I understand going after pirating at it's source and all but searching people who paid to go to your concert is silly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eli Posted September 12, 2003 Share Posted September 12, 2003 The only company that I really saw was 'pro-RIAA' was some Hollywood movie production company. In the buisness not too many people agree with them of what I know of. I know the Canadain side sees CD buying has increased. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Samoa Posted September 12, 2003 Share Posted September 12, 2003 There are some on this site who are pro-RIAA; I am not one of them. I'm right there with you man....(Y) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boffa Jones Veteran Posted September 12, 2003 Veteran Share Posted September 12, 2003 the RIAA is terrible from what i understand they gouge their own musicians to make cash, so ta band makes very little money on a cd it recorded. But like Macodi said they can legally charge you and no amount of complaining will change that. If you steal songs then you steal song. It is a pain in the ass though. I wish that the musicians would jsut sell their mp3's through their own websites, or things liek the apple music deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lexcyn Posted September 12, 2003 Share Posted September 12, 2003 I for one am strongly against the RIAA and what they're doing, simply because they aren't going about the file swapping situation in the best way possible. Instead of going after EVERY individual person that downloads files... why not fix your relationship with the public eye by lowering CD prices and giving independant artists more of the money that they deserve? File swapping will never go away if CD prices stay as high as they do. I suppose they just think that by sueing the people who can't afford CDs, let alone a 3000$ settlement, will get them more brownie points with someone, and therefore eliminate file swapping. [sarcasm] Of course, they are right because they're a large corperation. [/sarcasm] :wacko: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mAcOdIn Veteran Posted September 12, 2003 Veteran Share Posted September 12, 2003 But they are not out to score brownie points with the public they're out to protect thier profits. File sharing does cut into thier profits no matter what you say. I am sure it's not to the amount they claim necause some people wouldn't by the cd even if there wasn't a free way, but many people when given a choice between downloading for free, or paying a reasonable price, would still download for free. That is what they're fighting. Lots of people like neowin but in reality how many of it's members do you think would actually pay for it? It's the whole why pay for what I can get for free mentality they're trying to destroy, not no one likes us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xxdesmus Posted September 14, 2003 Share Posted September 14, 2003 the RIAA sucks. it represents all that is evil. the musicians deserve to be getting the profits, not some greedy middle-man. i will be more than happy to hand my money over to the artist...but I WILL NEVER PAY 15-18$ for a music cd. never. Pro RIAA? ...yeah right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aem4162 Posted September 14, 2003 Share Posted September 14, 2003 anti riaa here...they need to stop harassing the people who keep their members in business and start pushing for quality music at better prices Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James55 Posted September 14, 2003 Share Posted September 14, 2003 I for one would like to see a way to pay the artists directly cutting out the price gouging corporations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Allen Veteran Posted September 14, 2003 Veteran Share Posted September 14, 2003 I know the Canadain side sees CD buying has increased. That's right. Gotta love being a Canadian friends. :D ...too bad I'll have to live in the States when I'm older to do the job that I've wanted all my life... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
insurektion Posted September 14, 2003 Share Posted September 14, 2003 I think it would be awesome to start a Record Label on my own if i could get backing then up money that goes to the artist and lower cd prices. I would be more han happy making little more than 300-500k /year. non of this 50 mill paycheck bs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ike Posted September 14, 2003 Share Posted September 14, 2003 more and more i see people saying that they would love to buy music if they could contribute directly to the artist. they all need paypal donate buttons ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yzero Posted September 14, 2003 Share Posted September 14, 2003 the RIAA can burn in hell Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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