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Buttus Posted August 15, 2011 Share Posted August 15, 2011 good idea, but it just doesn't work for me... i can point to a place where it's not blue any more but not red either (purple) i can't point at a monkey and say 'well, it's not a monkey, but it's not a human either' people are looking for the "purple" animal in evolution... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Co-ords Posted August 15, 2011 Share Posted August 15, 2011 Sure life just spontaneously sprung out of nothing, makes perfect sense! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vincent Posted August 15, 2011 Share Posted August 15, 2011 Sure life just spontaneously sprung out of nothing, makes perfect sense! Sure a magical sky god made a human from a patch of dirt and a rib, makes perfect sense! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HawkMan Posted August 15, 2011 Share Posted August 15, 2011 Obviously life did'nt gradually evolve from base chemicals over billions of years. But instead anall encompassing all-powerful super being sprang forth spontaniusly to create the universe and life in 7 days.... Makes perfect sense Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rigby Posted August 15, 2011 Share Posted August 15, 2011 Sure life just spontaneously sprung out of nothing, makes perfect sense! Do you even realize how incredibly stupid that video is? It's nothing but creationist propaganda. Life springing from nothing is what the bible says, which is nonsense. Science doesn't say it sprang from nothing though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stetson Posted August 15, 2011 Share Posted August 15, 2011 good idea, but it just doesn't work for me... i can point to a place where it's not blue any more but not red either (purple) i can't point at a monkey and say 'well, it's not a monkey, but it's not a human either' people are looking for the "purple" animal in evolution... That's because the entire continuum of species does not survive in the long run. The parallel to the OP's example would be if one of two blue objects slowly became red over time, passing through purple in between. When you got done there would be a blue object and a red object and no purple, even though the process had to take very small steps. (And that's ignoring the fact that humans aren't even claimed to be evolutionary descendants of monkeys) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bryan R. Posted August 15, 2011 Share Posted August 15, 2011 That's because the entire continuum of species does not survive in the long run. The parallel to the OP's example would be if one of two blue objects slowly became red over time, passing through purple in between. When you got done there would be a blue object and a red object and no purple, even though the process had to take very small steps. (And that's ignoring the fact that humans aren't even claimed to be evolutionary descendants of monkeys) To correct your analogy, you would have to add that the objects took sh**s along the way which the red objects would be able to look back on and extrapolate a history. What our missing link is, a lack of living or dead remnants of a purple object. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
giantpotato Posted August 15, 2011 Share Posted August 15, 2011 This makes no sense. "There is no 'missing link', only points on a continuum" Ok then, could you please show me those points on a continuum? Oh, they're missing. So you're saying there's missing points on a continuum... Missing points that link two other points :pinch: So I guess you could say there's missing links in that continuum... :whistle: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DocM Posted August 15, 2011 Share Posted August 15, 2011 A theory arose in the 70's called Punctuated Equilibrium and is still a hot topic. While genetic mutation may accumulate in a smoothish manner, those changes often don't build up to the point of being visible in the fossil record for many generations. This can cause what appears to be 'jumps' in the fossil record. http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Punctuated_equilibrium Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rigby Posted August 15, 2011 Share Posted August 15, 2011 We don't have every single fossil from every single mutation from every single animal that ever lived, therefore it's not true. An invisible supreme being made us with magic! Makes complete sense. :laugh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cacoe Posted August 15, 2011 Share Posted August 15, 2011 Do you even realize how incredibly stupid that video is? It's nothing but creationist propaganda. Life springing from nothing is what the bible says, which is nonsense. Science doesn't say it sprang from nothing though. While I think the video is stupid, it does raise an interesting point. Why do we still not see life come together from inanimate parts any longer? Do the components and conditions simply not exist any more? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
giantpotato Posted August 15, 2011 Share Posted August 15, 2011 We don't have every single fossil from every single mutation from every single animal that ever lived, therefore it's not true. An invisible supreme being made us with magic! Makes complete sense. :laugh: And since we don't have the fossils, guess what word is used to describe those fossils? That's right, "Missing". I'm not saying evolution doesn't make sense, I'm saying that graphic doesn't make sense. There were obviously many things in between that we don't have evidence of, which are essentially missing links so it doesn't make sense to say there is no 'missing link'. There are many missing links. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bryan R. Posted August 15, 2011 Share Posted August 15, 2011 While I think the video is stupid, it does raise an interesting point. Why do we still not see life come together from inanimate parts any longer? Do the components and conditions simply not exist any more? That's exactly why.......... Read anything on evolution to find that out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rigby Posted August 15, 2011 Share Posted August 15, 2011 While I think the video is stupid, it does raise an interesting point. Why do we still not see life come together from inanimate parts any longer? Do the components and conditions simply not exist any more? It took billions of years and very specific conditions to happen. We humans have only been around for a short while. Plus if it did happen somewhere, maybe out in the ocean, how would we even know? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hum Posted August 15, 2011 Share Posted August 15, 2011 The 'missing' link is non-sense. The various races of humans are not all from one source. There were numerous genetic interventions by so-called Aliens, including direct seeding of modern humans, from other points in the galaxy. And yes, there is more advanced technology that allows travel between stars, in relatively short periods of time. This is why we have many of our Myths & Legends about 'gods'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guru Posted August 15, 2011 Share Posted August 15, 2011 A theory arose in the 70's called Punctuated Equilibrium and is still a hot topic. While genetic mutation may accumulate in a smoothish manner, those changes often don't build up to the point of being visible in the fossil record for many generations. This can cause what appears to be 'jumps' in the fossil record. http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Punctuated_equilibrium interesting!! wouldn't be surprised if it were true The 'missing' link is non-sense. The various races of humans are not all from one source. There were numerous genetic interventions by so-called Aliens, including direct seeding of modern humans, from other points in the galaxy. And yes, there is more advanced technology that allows travel between stars, in relatively short periods of time. This is why we have many of our Myths & Legends about 'gods'. :shiftyninja:did you just finish watching Thor? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stetson Posted August 17, 2011 Share Posted August 17, 2011 The 'missing' link is non-sense. The various races of humans are not all from one source. There were numerous genetic interventions by so-called Aliens, including direct seeding of modern humans, from other points in the galaxy. And yes, there is more advanced technology that allows travel between stars, in relatively short periods of time. This is why we have many of our Myths & Legends about 'gods'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Mirumir Subscriber¹ Posted August 17, 2011 Subscriber¹ Share Posted August 17, 2011 medium_pimpin (Y) for sharing this! good idea, but it just doesn't work for me... i can point to a place where it's not blue any more but not red either (purple) i can't point at a monkey and say 'well, it's not a monkey, but it's not a human either' people are looking for the "purple" animal in evolution... First of all, both the apes and the humans are all the primates. The biologists classify the humans as the great apes, by the way. We are all part of the Hominoidea superfamily. Secondly, can you define a monkey? Strictly speaking, it's a specie of simiiformes infraorder (simian) of Haplorhini suborder...like this macaque, for example: I can show you "monkeys" of different suborders and families who don't resemble simian monkeys at all: A lemur of Strepsirrhini suborder: A philippine tarsier: Or Emperor Tamarin of Callitrichidae family: Neither of the above resemble a chimp or a macaque who are monkeys in the traditional meaning of the word - yet they are all related despite their dramatically different looks/sizes/features whose evolutionary split occured earlier than the evolution of the homo genus. In the grande scheme of things, all the mammals living today or who ever lived, not just the primates, had one common ancestor. And last but not least, we can't point to a missing link not necessarily because we can't find it, but because there are so damn many of them. Who did Australopithecus resemble more: a modern human, or a modern ape? What about homo erectus or homo habilis? Their distinctive features changed gradually. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WolvesHunt Posted August 17, 2011 Share Posted August 17, 2011 Obviously life did'nt gradually evolve from base chemicals over billions of years. But instead anall encompassing all-powerful super being sprang forth spontaniusly to create the universe and life in 7 days.... Makes perfect sense Here we go. since you assume 7day is 7dx24h=168Hours and the world was made. In your dreams. When the bible takes about god making the world in 7 days, Its pointing to 7 days in (heaven). The bible say 1 day in heaven is 1000 years on earth. How ever I still think the translation is wrong. It would take more then 7000 years @ 49,000 Earth Hours to crate planet(s) and a star system. now if 1 day in heaven is 100,000 earth years that would make scene at 700,000 years @ 4.9M earth hours. or better yet. 1 day in heaven is 1Million earth years, 7Million years @ 49M Earth hours is even more believable I think the translation of the scripture is off by a few 0's when it relates heaven time vs earthly time. But it would make scene in science terms as well as in scripture terms. But since time is irreverent and dose not exist. We will never know the real calculation between heaven and earth, since heaven is forever and earth is temporary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HawkMan Posted August 17, 2011 Share Posted August 17, 2011 Heh, the workarounds religious people find for faults in their story books are always entertaining. Still missing an answer to the most important question none of you can answer, if life was created by God indicating life can't happen by itself, who made God? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j4c3 Posted August 18, 2011 Share Posted August 18, 2011 @op I totally agree If you watch pbs you'll see lots of shows about different homo-something or others relating us to a common ancestor of monkeys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mudslag Posted August 18, 2011 Share Posted August 18, 2011 Sure life just spontaneously sprung out of nothing, makes perfect sense! To be fair, science doesnt argue that life sprang from "nothing" but some people like to ignore that tid bit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mudslag Posted August 18, 2011 Share Posted August 18, 2011 The 'missing' link is non-sense. The various races of humans are not all from one source. There were numerous genetic interventions by so-called Aliens, including direct seeding of modern humans, from other points in the galaxy. And yes, there is more advanced technology that allows travel between stars, in relatively short periods of time. This is why we have many of our Myths & Legends about 'gods'. DNA would like to have a word with you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rigby Posted August 18, 2011 Share Posted August 18, 2011 Here we go. since you assume 7day is 7dx24h=168Hours and the world was made. In your dreams. When the bible takes about god making the world in 7 days, Its pointing to 7 days in (heaven). The bible say 1 day in heaven is 1000 years on earth. Yeah that's nice except it still doesn't explain a magic sky wizard creating a man out of some dirt, making a woman from one of his ribs, and a talking snake... does it really matter if the 7 days thing is accurate or not? I just can't understand how otherwise rational and intelligent adults can believe such ridiculous things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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