84Mark Posted September 19, 2003 Share Posted September 19, 2003 Hiya. I'm about to move into my Student house and because I'm a good computer programmer I have been landed with the job of setting us all up with Internet Connection in the house despite the fact I know nothing about networking technology / hardware etc.... I have been living in the lands of dial up for ever. Anyway. We are able to get ADSL where I am going to live so we are gonna get BTYahoo ADSL <UK> http://www.btyahoo.com/broadband/forhome We are wanting to share this connection between 5 computers in the house. My question is.... how!! In my limmited knowledge on this subject I would have though I needed some kind of Ethernet ADSL Modem <BTYahoo seem to supply only USB Modems> and connect this to a ?hub? / ?switch?. Okay so am I on the right lines here? Could anyone suggest some hardware also because I am not sure what will work / won't work. I don't want to spend *alot* of money on hardware. Also, I have a LynkSys Cable / DSL Router <Model BERSR81> but I am told that there are problems with the WAN Interface DHCP client for that modem which means it will not work at all with ADSL. Any help would be much appreciated. - Stressed Student :no: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SMeK Veteran Posted September 19, 2003 Veteran Share Posted September 19, 2003 you will either need to buy a DSL router that has 5 ports or set up a server pc thats always on and can share the connection Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
84Mark Posted September 19, 2003 Author Share Posted September 19, 2003 So.. using a hub wont work? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ggareis Posted September 19, 2003 Share Posted September 19, 2003 http://www.linksys.com/Products/product.asp?grid=23&prid=173 enough said go pick it up at walmart http://www.linksys.com/Products/product.asp?prid=435&scid=36 Linksys BEFW11S4 The EtherFast? Wireless AP + Cable/DSL Router w/4-Port Switch provides the ideal solution for connecting your wireless network to a high-speed broadband Internet connection and a 10/100 Fast Ethernet backbone. Configurable as a DHCP server for your existing network, the EtherFast? Wireless AP + Cable/DSL Router w/4-Port Switch acts as the only externally recognized Internet gateway on your local area network (LAN) and serve as an Internet NAT firewall against unwanted outside intruders. The Router can also be configured to filter internal users? access to the Internet. A typical router may have to rely on an external hub or switch to share its Internet connection, but the Linksys EtherFast? Wireless AP + Cable/DSL Router channels this connection through the blazing, full duplex speed of its built-in EtherFast? 10/100 4-Port Switch. This cutting-edge combination of wireless router and switch technology eliminates the need to buy an additional hub or switch and extends the range of your wireless network. Now your entire wireless network can enjoy blazing broadband Internet connections supported by its robust switched back-bone. With the dual-function speed and power of the EtherFast? Wireless AP + Cable/DSL Router w/4-Port Switch, your network will take off at speeds faster than you ever imagined possible. Linksys WUSB11 If you?ve been searching for an easy way to integrate any PC or laptop into your wireless network, you?ll find just the solution with the Instant Wireless? USB Network Adapter. The Plug-and-Play Wireless USB Network Adapter connects directly to any USB-ready PC?just plug it in and you?re ready to share data, printers, or high speed Internet access over your existing wireless network. For desktop installation, you don?t even have to open your PC?s case. And user-friendly software makes it simple to set up. Not only is the Instant Wireless? USB Network Adapter easy to install and use, it?s also powerful. You can send and receive data at speeds up to 11Mbps and a new higher-powered antenna provides greater ranges than ever. The increased sensitivity helps filter out interference and ?noise? to keep your signal clear. Improved error correction keeps you operating at higher transmission rates over longer distances. It?s also versatile. Need to use it temporarily on another PC? No problem. Plug it into the USB port, set it up, and you?re ready to go. So for full desktop and notebook PC flexibility and wireless con-venience, the Instant Wireless? USB Network Adapter provides an all-in-one solution! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steven Posted September 19, 2003 Share Posted September 19, 2003 (edited) So.. using a hub wont work? for being a "Good Computer Programmer" You sound like you know a wee bit of nothing about networking. Don't be ashamed, it sounds oh so familiar to half the programmers I work with. They spend too much time looking at code and don't know common networking. Read The Following: (All typed by my little tired sleepy fingers ;)) ======================================================================= Hub = a device that connects all machine, but a stupid device that spews packets to all machines even if they didn't request them.. cannot assign IP address, terrible for dividing network traffice. Switches are better. Switch = a device that connects all machines, but a smart device that gives each computer its own 10/100Mb path to the Internet Source, thus not disturbing the connection of another user, a hub will bog down your network quick. Router. = a device that connects to the source of your internet connection, using a technology called NAT (Network Address Translation) the router acts as a firewall to the outside world, thus keeping you safe and out of harm, a Router commonly includes a 4 Port switch, giving you access to connect at least 4 computers to it. Routers can assign IP addresses! Most if not all routers have a built in DHCP server. 1 single Router can serve up to 252 Computers. ======================================================================== Recommded Solution for 5 Computers. [ADSL Modem]----[Cable/DSL Router (w 8 Port Switch)]---[Computers 1 through 5 connected to Routers Switch] Result: 5 Computers Online. ==================================================== Hardware Required for this feat. 1 ADSL Modem 1 Cable/DSL Router with 8 Port Switch. Edited September 19, 2003 by xStainDx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zip Posted September 19, 2003 Share Posted September 19, 2003 buy your own modem though, don't buy one from bt. they'll rip you off for a crappy modem that probably wont work with your router Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Detonator Posted September 23, 2003 Share Posted September 23, 2003 Firstly I would choose another ISP such as Pipex (which I am getting very soon). There are cheaper and the service overall should be better. For a router I would recommend either the speedtouch 510 v4 or Netgear DG814. I have the speedtouch and its very stable. The Netgear will probably be easier to setup though. You can buy routers from DSL Source There are reviews on the two routers I metioned at ADSLguide. Also search the forums there for any other information on networking you are not sure about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elliot Posted September 23, 2003 Share Posted September 23, 2003 ISP such as Pipex (which I am getting very soon). pipex?! my friend went back to 56k because Pipex was so awful! :no: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Detonator Posted September 23, 2003 Share Posted September 23, 2003 pipex?! my friend went back to 56k because Pipex was so awful! :no: I know someone who has had Pipex for over a year with only afew minor problems (which you would expect). I also have read good things about Pipex such as, better for gaming (ie faster pings). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank Posted September 23, 2003 Share Posted September 23, 2003 ISP's are like trucks.....You talk to one person, they say Ford's suck, you talk to another, they say Chevy's suck. It is all a matter of the person?s preference and their experience with the product. For instance I cannot stand Dial Up connections. I wouldn?t be able to survive on one. If someone asked me, I would recommend NOT going with dialup, but for them (if they only surf the web occasionally and send emails) dialup would be fine, and possibly the best route. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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