.Kompressor Posted September 21, 2003 Share Posted September 21, 2003 I know we have some Car enthusiasts here on the board so thought i'd post this.... :yes: a friend sent this link to me and I just downloaded this and watched it Pretty impressive performance by both cars. Topgear well known for it's road tests did a comparison of both 2004 models. some funny lines from the reporter: "with their Turbocharged engines & 4wd systems they grip, go & stop so ferociously that your just left absolutely breathless" "In the real world Ferrari's, Porches, Bmw's couldn't hope to keep up with either of them" "it seems that these 2 cars have met in the middle" About the Subaru: "Suspension is harder, steering tighter" "They made it harder, edgier, more of a bar room brawler" "it's hugely manly experience, the noise it makes, macho, almost smells manly with the essence of burnt clutch, spash it on all over before going out for a curry and a fight" LOL About the EVO VIII: "the old Evo 7 was like a hitman without the compassion" "the new car is lighter & it's gearbox has 6 speeds rather than 5, it's quieter & softer" "the mitsubishi is much more technical, it has an active central differential, which moves the power to front or back wheels depending on which has more grip..with keypad to tell it the different road conditions...it's also got something called Super Active Yaw control which moves the power from side to side...sometimes this car drives on 1 wheel in hard cornering" Summed up: "Mitsubishi is like an F16 fighter, light & highly maneuverable. The Subaru is like an F15, a fighter bomber" "both do 150mph, 0-60 under 5 seconds, on the outsides they seemed toned down, but both these cars are shamelessly aggressive" "do you know what these cars should be called? the mitsubishi - did you spill my pint?, & the subaru - you outside now!" "trying to decide which is best is hard, they are both spoon-bendingly halucinogenically, law-breakingly mad & absurd" "it's impossible to choose between these 2 cars, there's no tangible reason why you would take one over the other, just a matter of preference" Finally: After Testing the top modified editions of both models, the Mitsubishi was the fastest on the Track in cornering, beating cars like the Lambogini Mercilago, Aston Martin DB7 GT and Aplina Z8. You can download a copy of the topgear roadtest on bittorrent with this link (size 136mb): http://izigo.suprnova-mirror.net/torrents/...220-avi.torrent Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M$ Agent #2 Posted September 21, 2003 Share Posted September 21, 2003 LOL when I first looked at the title it looked like it was going to say EVO Vs Suburban (Chevy Suburban ?) lol I was like I gotta see this LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dougkinzinger Posted September 21, 2003 Share Posted September 21, 2003 The Mitsu. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.Kompressor Posted September 21, 2003 Author Share Posted September 21, 2003 :laugh: :laugh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eye_see_you Posted September 21, 2003 Share Posted September 21, 2003 man I want the new STI .. the evo is nice but their is nothing like getting a turbo on a sti and making it boost like crazy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CloudEngineer Posted September 21, 2003 Share Posted September 21, 2003 Lets put it this way. If you gave me either car i'd be happy ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SioPao Posted September 21, 2003 Share Posted September 21, 2003 I'm all about the STi, but the Mitsu puts up a good fight =P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zombie9920 Posted September 21, 2003 Share Posted September 21, 2003 (edited) some funny lines from the reporter:"with their Turbocharged engines & 4wd systems they grip, go & stop so ferociously that your just left absolutely breathless" "In the real world Ferrari's, Porches, Bmw's couldn't hope to keep up with either of them" LoL, is that reporter insane? A Ferrari F50 would leave one of those things in the dust. Even a 360 Spyder(Modena) would eat one of those suckers alive. Does he want a car with a good 4wd system with a fast, turbocharged engine? He should look no further than the Lamborghini Diablo VT 6.0 or a Murcielago. Geese, those cars can only do a little over 150mph. How does he have the nerve to even try comparing one to a Ferrari? I think that a Porsche 911 Turbo could take one of those cars. I know that a Porsche Carrera GT definatley could. Granted, they could whoop most BMW's because BMW's really aren't that fast. They are more luxurious than anything. Hehe, a Viper would eat those 2 cars alive also. Those cars have a 0-60 in under 5 seconds? Well all Vipers can do a 0-60 in 3.9 seconds or below(The Venoms have an impressive 0-60 in 3.4 seconds). All Vipers can do at least 180MPH(even the ones from the 90's). The Venoms and the other new Vipers can hit 190+ MPH. Tell me one of those things can smoke a viper. LOL!!!! BTW, aren't those Rally cars? Who drives a Rally car as regular means of transportation? Edited September 21, 2003 by Zombie9920 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.Kompressor Posted September 21, 2003 Author Share Posted September 21, 2003 yes when it comes to top speed lambogini's or other's can beat them...but how often will you go past 150mph. LOL much less 200mph. anyway the real fun in a car is the acceleration and handling. These cars don't burn any Rubber whatsoever. While thos powerhouses like lamboghini etc..is at the starting line peeling out in the quarter these cars highly sophisticated 4wd systems will not let the car tyres slip and if they sense a loss of traction in a wheel they immediately send all power to the other 3.. so let's just say it won't get left behind. LMAO. :laugh: By the way these cars are the Street version of the Rally circuit cars for consumers so it has practicality like a Honda Accord or Camry with 4 doors and a trunk. with Rally roots and power....the best of both worlds IMO. Yes some cars like you say F50 will go under 4 seconds. but they will never out handle one of these cars with the 4wd systems which keep them accelerating around corners leaving those in the dust. They handly like it's on RAILS...it will out accelerate them in handling thus leaving them in the dust fish tailing and understeering everywhere. LOL :woot: no other production cars in the markets feature the technology these have. :rofl: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yanman Posted September 21, 2003 Share Posted September 21, 2003 it really depends on how the car has been tuned up... i mean if you bought a stock STi or Evo, there is no way it can beat a Ferrari or Lambo or Dodge in a straight. But when it comes to track, 4WD systems always provide better traction and steering response. So STis and Evos are better in that case. But yes, if you really done up and tuned a STi or Evo hard, it'll definately beat a Ferrari, Lambo and Dodge in a track race. Btw, TopGear's reports and reviews on cars are excellent, but i do believe that when it comes to racing and comparisons with other cars... it's a load of crap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sedriss Posted September 21, 2003 Share Posted September 21, 2003 Well why do you guys think that the 3000GT VR-4s and the Dodge Stealth TT's were so fast? Both had awd with 320 hp to boot. The 300ZX's and Supra's couldnt beat them in the straight line (credit is due both to the Supra and Z for being = fast in their own right). The thing that made the Stealths and 3000's so fast was the awd. Other than that, they would have gotten owned. But it also can come down to the driver. How fast some can shift and control a car. So it can be very quesitonable indeed if these could take on a Viper, Lambo, yada yada yada.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bizkit Posted September 21, 2003 Share Posted September 21, 2003 I drive a Lancer! Yeah me! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dpanda Posted September 21, 2003 Share Posted September 21, 2003 either oen of them drives me crazy...but hmm...dif choice...evo would be better for me.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aaron901 Posted September 21, 2003 Share Posted September 21, 2003 some funny lines from the reporter:"with their Turbocharged engines & 4wd systems they grip, go & stop so ferociously that your just left absolutely breathless" "In the real world Ferrari's, Porches, Bmw's couldn't hope to keep up with either of them" LoL, is that reporter insane? A Ferrari F50 would leave one of those things in the dust. Even a 360 Spyder(Modena) would eat one of those suckers alive. Does he want a car with a good 4wd system with a fast, turbocharged engine? He should look no further than the Lamborghini Diablo VT 6.0 or a Murcielago. Geese, those cars can only do a little over 150mph. How does he have the nerve to even try comparing one to a Ferrari? I think that a Porsche 911 Turbo could take one of those cars. I know that a Porsche Carrera GT definatley could. Granted, they could whoop most BMW's because BMW's really aren't that fast. They are more luxurious than anything. Hehe, a Viper would eat those 2 cars alive also. Those cars have a 0-60 in under 5 seconds? Well all Vipers can do a 0-60 in 3.9 seconds or below(The Venoms have an impressive 0-60 in 3.4 seconds). All Vipers can do at least 180MPH(even the ones from the 90's). The Venoms and the other new Vipers can hit 190+ MPH. Tell me one of those things can smoke a viper. LOL!!!! BTW, aren't those Rally cars? Who drives a Rally car as regular means of transportation? you're only assuming they race on a straight course. it's another story when you talk about streetracing. raw power isn't everything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.Kompressor Posted September 21, 2003 Author Share Posted September 21, 2003 all i'm going to say is...If you ever get a chance to test drive either of these cars fully like push it a bit hard...you won't wan't to leave it. It's infectious.. These cars can be bought stock in different versions in Europe, Japan & Caribbean. they are faster than the ones in the U.S. In those parts of the world Mitsubishi produces different editions like the Tommi Makinen, RS, GRS, etc.. just depends on how much power you wan't. The Standard stock one in Japan comes with 285bhp and in the U.S. it's 276bhp. then the higher editions in Europe can range up to 380bhp+ with even more tweaked suspensions. etc...just depends on how much you want to spend. still less though than a BMW, Porche, or highend and is more fun to drive :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nookadum Posted September 21, 2003 Share Posted September 21, 2003 TopGear has the best reviewers ever. Really. :) Zombie9920: I drive one for everyday practical use. Evo III. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GenesisNZ Posted September 21, 2003 Share Posted September 21, 2003 some funny lines from the reporter:"with their Turbocharged engines & 4wd systems they grip, go & stop so ferociously that your just left absolutely breathless" "In the real world Ferrari's, Porches, Bmw's couldn't hope to keep up with either of them" LoL, is that reporter insane? A Ferrari F50 would leave one of those things in the dust. Even a 360 Spyder(Modena) would eat one of those suckers alive. Does he want a car with a good 4wd system with a fast, turbocharged engine? He should look no further than the Lamborghini Diablo VT 6.0 or a Murcielago. Geese, those cars can only do a little over 150mph. How does he have the nerve to even try comparing one to a Ferrari? I think that a Porsche 911 Turbo could take one of those cars. I know that a Porsche Carrera GT definatley could. Granted, they could whoop most BMW's because BMW's really aren't that fast. They are more luxurious than anything. Hehe, a Viper would eat those 2 cars alive also. Those cars have a 0-60 in under 5 seconds? Well all Vipers can do a 0-60 in 3.9 seconds or below(The Venoms have an impressive 0-60 in 3.4 seconds). All Vipers can do at least 180MPH(even the ones from the 90's). The Venoms and the other new Vipers can hit 190+ MPH. Tell me one of those things can smoke a viper. LOL!!!! BTW, aren't those Rally cars? Who drives a Rally car as regular means of transportation? Love to see how a Ferrari F50, Dodge Viper or a Lamb. Diablo VT6.0 would do in the WRX/Impreza STi's real environment.. The rally track... :devil: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LiGhTfast Posted September 21, 2003 Share Posted September 21, 2003 great episode i love top gear can't wait for the next series... as for the cars i havent a clue what i'd go for the subaru is more in your face but the lancer is trendier Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wildliquid Posted September 21, 2003 Share Posted September 21, 2003 i have always loved subaru wrx's, when i am rich i want one, gotta agree with lightfast though, subaru tuffer, lancer cleaner Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
altezza Veteran Posted September 21, 2003 Veteran Share Posted September 21, 2003 TopGear has the best reviewers ever. Really. :) I agree, but I prefer Best Motoring from Japan...full of reviews and fun and all the crazy drivers :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicane-UK Veteran Posted September 21, 2003 Veteran Share Posted September 21, 2003 Straightline speed the muscle cars have it.. when it comes to actually taking corners, the Evo's and Impreza's are renowned for showing pretty much anything up. Top Gear always say there is no better way to cover ground on country roads and B roads (as they known here) than in an Evo or an Impreza... supercars would be all over the place... and as countless pictures show, cars like the Viper would be on its roof in a field!! :) Oh.. and remeber that the Evo's and Impreza's cost next to nothing when compared with things like the Ferarri or the Lamborghini.. and the fact that they can and HAVE embarassed them on countless occasions makes for even more fun imho :) Plus they wont break down every time there is a letter 'D' in the day unlike the Ferarri ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Selraich Posted September 21, 2003 Share Posted September 21, 2003 I'm more of a domestic guy , but both of these cars are really nice. Except the fact that i think the wings look terrible, is there a delete option on them? Also, the straight line muscle car speed is not true anymore - modern muscle cars like the '03 Cobra and Corvette Z06 can take curves with the best of em (the Z06 pulls more G's on the skidpad then a Porsche GT3). As for choosing between the Scooby and Evo - STi please, in black(and no wing - or maybe a smaller aftermarket unit). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ytterbium Posted September 21, 2003 Share Posted September 21, 2003 At Ten of the Best 2 in the UK which was a collection of the fastest cars in the UK. has some hard numbers on which cars are good at what. 1/4 Mile Top Speed Handling course T Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
threetonesun Posted September 21, 2003 Share Posted September 21, 2003 For the price of a Ferrari you could put one of these in full WRC trim, and then they would beat a supercar on a straight line. Ok, maybe not the F40/50/60, but just about everything else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sedriss Posted September 22, 2003 Share Posted September 22, 2003 some funny lines from the reporter:"with their Turbocharged engines & 4wd systems they grip, go & stop so ferociously that your just left absolutely breathless" "In the real world Ferrari's, Porches, Bmw's couldn't hope to keep up with either of them" LoL, is that reporter insane? A Ferrari F50 would leave one of those things in the dust. Even a 360 Spyder(Modena) would eat one of those suckers alive. Does he want a car with a good 4wd system with a fast, turbocharged engine? He should look no further than the Lamborghini Diablo VT 6.0 or a Murcielago. Geese, those cars can only do a little over 150mph. How does he have the nerve to even try comparing one to a Ferrari? I think that a Porsche 911 Turbo could take one of those cars. I know that a Porsche Carrera GT definatley could. Granted, they could whoop most BMW's because BMW's really aren't that fast. They are more luxurious than anything. Hehe, a Viper would eat those 2 cars alive also. Those cars have a 0-60 in under 5 seconds? Well all Vipers can do a 0-60 in 3.9 seconds or below(The Venoms have an impressive 0-60 in 3.4 seconds). All Vipers can do at least 180MPH(even the ones from the 90's). The Venoms and the other new Vipers can hit 190+ MPH. Tell me one of those things can smoke a viper. LOL!!!! BTW, aren't those Rally cars? Who drives a Rally car as regular means of transportation? Love to see how a Ferrari F50, Dodge Viper or a Lamb. Diablo VT6.0 would do in the WRX/Impreza STi's real environment.. The rally track... :devil: yea but in this day and age the great outdoors are turning into nothing but highway. Rally racing is nothing to be happy about. Id rather smoke at guy at the light than on a dirt road. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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