@Leo Posted September 14, 2011 Author Share Posted September 14, 2011 I guess some would be happier if Microsoft just did nothing and let their market evaporate to their competition. Or should they have copied ios or android instead? Do you even listen to yourself? :rolleyes: Metro UI with the mouse is is much fun as using the mouse on Windows Phone 7[.5] or iOS emulators. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geoffrey B. Veteran Posted September 14, 2011 Veteran Share Posted September 14, 2011 LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
margrave Posted September 14, 2011 Share Posted September 14, 2011 As it stands now, after installing this build and using it for a day, I plan to stay with 7. I do not like this metro layout at all. It works for phones and tablets but I do NOT want that on my desktop os. I've been trying but I just don't care for it at all and won't buy it. If I didn't buy it as a phone why in the world would I buy it for my desktop?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
insanelyapple Posted September 14, 2011 Share Posted September 14, 2011 Haha, yep... Pretty much like that. When i saw Windows 7 for the first time with new taskbar - it looked for me like something between Windows 1.0 and 3.1; you know, icons at the bottom of screen were same like in these systems. Maybe Microsoft is returning to the old ideas and improves them? Anyway, my friend said that they need to include option to disable new start menu/"panel", because business companies want a simplistic, basic interface known from current and older versions of Windows - adapting and retraining employes to use this new GUI would mean another cost. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mancode20 Posted September 14, 2011 Share Posted September 14, 2011 Probably a dumb question, but can you change the background color to this new metro UI advanced start menu or whatever they are calling it? Like change the green color to blue, or something else? I would assume they would give us that option, but sometimes you just never know. A lot of times developers work on adding the hard, complicated stuff, but leave out the simple, easy stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
i11usive Posted September 14, 2011 Share Posted September 14, 2011 Haha, yep... Pretty much like that. When i saw Windows 7 for the first time with new taskbar - it looked for me like something between Windows 1.0 and 3.1; you know, icons at the bottom of screen were same like in these systems. Maybe Microsoft is returning to the old ideas and improves them? Anyway, my friend said that they need to include option to disable new start menu/"panel", because business companies want a simplistic, basic interface known from current and older versions of Windows - adapting and retraining employes to use this new GUI would mean another cost. You can. See here https://www.neowin.net/news/windows-8-how-to-re-enable-the-classic-start-menu Bear in mind - this is the developer's preview build ... we're a long way off from seeing what will eventually become the polished product. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
firey Posted September 14, 2011 Share Posted September 14, 2011 Lol, that got a good laugh. I downloaded and Installed the Dev Preview at work onto a Virtual Machine to begin testing some of our current software. Both my boss and the other programmer thought that the tile ui was a joke. The other programmer was amazed when I told him it's not just for tablets, it's the default interface. They both shook their heads, and said they hoped for an easy way to turn off the immersive, as it's just going to add to the work our support department will have to deal with, from customers that have no clue what they are doing. It also makes our standard applications seem out of place with two interfaces. I also find it quite silly that half the apps load in desktop mode, the other half load in immersive mode. Seems really streamlined to me /sarcasm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MS Bob 11 Posted September 14, 2011 Share Posted September 14, 2011 Made me LOL too. Playing games with the interface and users. But for a tablet UI, it's not that bad really. Only if they put some gradients and lighter shades than plain solid colors. Plus grandmas and the simplicity crowd will be better served by Metro/Start screen, preventing Win32 apps from getting dumbed down as it happening now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~Johnny Posted September 14, 2011 Share Posted September 14, 2011 It works pretty great for me on a desktop - my only suggestion would be to put a direct link to the apps page inside the little bottom left start pop-up, instead of having to open the start screen and having to start typing. With that little change I'm sure a lot of people would become slightly happier with it all. <img> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamushroom Veteran Posted September 14, 2011 Veteran Share Posted September 14, 2011 Interesting how a thread about a joke turns out to be a serious thread :p Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sopharine Posted September 14, 2011 Share Posted September 14, 2011 Made me LOL too. Playing games with the interface and users. But for a tablet UI, it's not that bad really. Only if they put some gradients and lighter shades than plain solid colors. Yeah adding gradients like what people did in Widows Phone 7. /s Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MS Bob 11 Posted September 14, 2011 Share Posted September 14, 2011 Yeah adding gradients like what people did in Widows Phone Huh? A bad color combination can always ruin any design. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fix-this! Posted September 14, 2011 Share Posted September 14, 2011 Microsoft made it very clear that what you people from Neowin keep calling the "tablet interface" will be the default interface across all devices, including traditional desktops and notebooks. and this will be the death of windows, i hope microsoft understand the consequences of going this route. id love to hear bill gates feelings on wp7, w8 and metro. I REALLY hope that Microsoft has only demonstrated what Windows 8 means to Tablets, and the rest comes later; because the desktop isn't dead yet and Microsoft have a history of being wrong about making bold predictions and assumptions like that. I have it on a Virtual Machine and it is far from useful for a desktop imo, I won't be using it as a "main OS" in it's current state anyway. I CAN see the appeal it will have on touch devices though. Basically sums up my little look. agreed! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M V E Posted September 14, 2011 Share Posted September 14, 2011 We can use Windows 7 until Windows 9. Don't worry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BajiRav Posted September 14, 2011 Share Posted September 14, 2011 and this will be the death of windows, i hope microsoft understand the consequences of going this route. id love to hear bill gates feelings on wp7, w8 and metro. agreed! He is using a WP7 and there is nothing wrong with metro. I haven't tried Win8 much yet but I have a feeling this is a very much WIP dev. preview and there is a lot of UI work pending for mouse/keyboard access. Those who are calling this as death of Windows are jumping the gun IMO. I guess this is the problem when ordinary people conclude incorrectly that this is how it will ship. Sure, the start screen might be final but there might be improvements for mouse/KB that will make this worthwhile. e.g. I feel there is a lot of wasted empty space on four sides of the start screen and they can easily fit in additional row of tiles there. We will see. Too early to pass a judgement (except for metro haters I guess, they will be "I AM STAYING WITH 7" even if Microsoft shipped Win7 as is but called it Windows metro). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mancode20 Posted September 14, 2011 Share Posted September 14, 2011 Probably a dumb question, but can you change the background color to this new metro UI advanced start menu or whatever they are calling it? Like change the green color to blue, or something else? I would assume they would give us that option, but sometimes you just never know. A lot of times developers work on adding the hard, complicated stuff, but leave out the simple, easy stuff. Nevermind. I found the answer, which is currently no, but you will be able to do it eventually. I didn't see the other thread. My bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheLegendOfMart Posted September 14, 2011 Share Posted September 14, 2011 If they continue down this route ill be switching to a Mac. Windows 8 is disgusting, a slate isnt a PC dont force the UI onto desktops for consistencies sake and destroy usability. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Midnight Mick Posted September 14, 2011 Share Posted September 14, 2011 If they continue down this route ill be switching to a Mac. Windows 8 is disgusting, a slate isnt a PC dont force the UI onto desktops for consistencies sake and destroy usability. I agree on the Metro UI on personal computers. My next upgrade after win 7 may likely be a mac as well if they continue down this route. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rigby Posted September 14, 2011 Share Posted September 14, 2011 Aside from looking absolutely nothing alike, the line "No freely resizeable/movable windows" just shows whoever made that is an idiot that doesn't know what they are talking about. I don't like Metro by the way, but let's not spread nonsense about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ambroos Posted September 14, 2011 Share Posted September 14, 2011 If the desktop functionality doesn't change greatly from how it is now in the developer preview I will also be sticking with Windows 7 (or switching to Ubuntu/OSX86). I tried it and it's just horrible to use with your mouse and keyboard, and even worse with a touchpad. Keyboard shortcuts (Winkey+number) are gone, and your mouse has to travel huge distances all the time to either click something or go to the bottom to grab the scroll bar. It's extremely annoying and I don't like it at all. Besides, while Immersive apps might be nice for tablets and stuff, it's extremely impractical for desktop or notebooks with a high resolution. I didn't get a 1600x900 13.1" notebook to get it all filled up with huge letters, I like the ability to do some proper multitasking. Also, quick task switching looks like a huge problem in the current developer preview. I found no proper way to see what is running or to even just end one of the opened applications. On the other hand, I think it is the best tablet UI ever made. But for use with a keyboard/mouse/touchpad: big big big no. Let's hope Server 8 will have the classic UI so we can all start using that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Digitalx Posted September 14, 2011 Share Posted September 14, 2011 Just echoing most of what's been said, horrid on the desktop and impractical for mouse and keyboard/touch pads and high resolution monitors considering how little content is being shown and how much space is wasted etc. The apps hold nothing for desktop/notebook computers besides lots of dead space and easy to read stuff for people with deteriorating eye sight. It's clearly primitive in this state but if it's any indication of what final product is then we're going to have another vista on our hands. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lalalawawawa Posted September 14, 2011 Share Posted September 14, 2011 Aside from looking absolutely nothing alike, the line "No freely resizeable/movable windows" just shows whoever made that is an idiot that doesn't know what they are talking about. I don't like Metro by the way, but let's not spread nonsense about it. Agreed! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scumdogmillionaire Posted September 14, 2011 Share Posted September 14, 2011 Going to just +1 everyone else. The start screen with a mouse is bad. Simply making the option to not have that tablet stuff on the desktop experience will be much better. Even from the desktop perspective, there is still a lot to be excited about with Windows 8. That being said, I can't wait to get a Windows 8 tablet and use the Metro interface there. But only there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spudtrooper Posted September 14, 2011 Share Posted September 14, 2011 I think Metro UI looks great. If your mouse is to slow, enable mouse acceleration If you can't figure out how to get classic desktop, you probably shouldn't have tried this pre-beta build If you don't like the tiles period, why the heck did you download it? seems like everyone complaining is just being a bit of a weenie if you ask me.. did anyone actually watch the videos / demos / build presentations to see what they were getting into? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jakem1 Posted September 14, 2011 Share Posted September 14, 2011 There seem to be a lot of haters in this thread who are dismissing Win8 without having given the changes a great deal of thought. Jumping to conclusions based on a few screenshots or a pre-alpha preview is really silly. When used in desktop mode the Start screen will only be used very briefly and there are numerous ways where it can surpass the Start Menu. For instance, tiles provide a far better experience than the pointless widgets that currently live on the desktop and it's much easier to access them on the Start screen than on the desktop. Also, it makes infinitely more sense to see search results full screen than to have them stuffed into the tiny space available on the Start Menu. Why be limited to a cramped view of a dozen or so search results on the Start Menu when you can make the most of your screen to view more results in more detail? Those of you complaining need to think about who long you use the Start Menu for. On a typical day I'd say I use it for no more than about 30 seconds all up. Is it really that big a deal to lose something that you use so briefly? All the bashing I've seen over the last couple of days is the same as the mindless complaining you get from XP fans who refuse to upgrade to anything newer. I understand that some people are scared of change but this is just ridiculous. Perhaps you should read an article by someone who's actually taken the time to look at how Win8 works as a regular PC before ranting about how much you hate it: http://arstechnica.com/microsoft/news/2011/09/hands-on-with-windows-8-a-tablet-operating-system-for-the-pc-age.ars EDIT: By the way, Windows 8 Server will have the Start Screen as well so you might as well get used to it ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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