Depicus Posted September 15, 2011 Share Posted September 15, 2011 Why not just buy Rainmeter and save all this heartache. I am struggling to see how this will move my life forward in any way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@Leo Posted September 15, 2011 Author Share Posted September 15, 2011 Windows 8 takes you to a full screen search interface that interrupt what you were doing on the desktop. It's so immersive! :rolleyes: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sraf Posted September 15, 2011 Share Posted September 15, 2011 Windows 8 takes you to a full screen search interface that interrupt what you were doing on the desktop. But you were interrupted anyways. By opening the start menu, you are shifting your focus away from what you were doing on the desktop Look, I'm not saying there isn't room for improvement, and that the dev build isn't buggy, but I'm reading things on here that are just not true, or that fail to think of other ways to perform tasks that might benefit from this new UI. Take server management as an example. If we are staying in GUI land, I can see a few ways that the new UI can help. You can pin whatever management applications you need right at the front of the UI, so you get quick access to 90% of your normal tasks. The Live Tiles can be used for those same applications to show things like server load, load history, bandwidth usage and more. And don't forget that the Windows 8 uses fewer resources than Windows 7 on its own. And ultimately I think that there will be an option for just having a traditional desktop anyways. MS is saying that the new UI is the way forward, but they have shown hints that they are considering use cases where it might not be the best solution, for example they showed that there is an option to have a taskbar for each screen in a multimonitor setup, and a second option to have the icons on the taskbar follow the applications they represent when those applications are moved from one monitor to another Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
remixedcat Posted September 15, 2011 Share Posted September 15, 2011 what was wrong with having the start screen with a taskbar on the bottom? that would have been good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nexus- Posted September 16, 2011 Share Posted September 16, 2011 HP Touchsmarts are crap. lots of people with issues with those things. Plus no upgradeable GPU, and the things overheat like mad. Thats besides the point and my point still stands and is completely valid. GPU, overheating and software bugs are easily fixed with future revisions by the time win8 ships. The design is all that is relevant to support my point. You can't tell me that MS is going to force a horrible interface onto their end users, I am sure the more people complain about this, this "tablet, iOS interface" will fade away. How is this even remotely useful? I found myself spending MORE time navigating with my finger and with a mouse trying to get to the full blown control panel in this new interface, even when I knew where to go. Absolutely ridiculous. Modify your comment slightly and it applies for many things that didn't change, The name of the wii console everyone complained about but Nintendo didn't give a sh*t. I could come up with plenty more. The complaints of a few nerds (as I would expect most of us on neowin don't represent the majority of end users and their computer skills) don't equal how people will feel using windows 8 coming from the iPad. I can promise you Apple and Google's mobile OS is fully justifying the actions Microsoft internally is taking with windows 8 and no complains will serve to sway their minds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redfish Posted September 16, 2011 Share Posted September 16, 2011 I just tried it on the Dev preview. Two clicks is all it took to get to the old control panel. It takes the same in Windows 7 I always ended up pinning the Control panel to the taskbar anyway, and then pinning common tasks on the jump list. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FMH Posted September 16, 2011 Share Posted September 16, 2011 what was wrong with having the start screen with a taskbar on the bottom? that would have been good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
remixedcat Posted September 16, 2011 Share Posted September 16, 2011 let me guess.... it would interfere with the MDL.... that's one flaw with it.... hard to add features without interfering with the MDL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RealFduch Posted September 16, 2011 Share Posted September 16, 2011 HP Touchsmarts are crap. lots of people with issues with those things. Plus no upgradeable GPU, and the things overheat like mad. Same as the iMacs than? Just with a touchscreen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
remixedcat Posted September 16, 2011 Share Posted September 16, 2011 Same as the iMacs than? Just with a touchscreen. mac hardware is much better then HP's crap LOL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~Johnny Posted September 16, 2011 Share Posted September 16, 2011 HP Touchsmarts are crap. lots of people with issues with those things. Plus no upgradeable GPU, and the things overheat like mad. Touchsmarts are amongst the best rated AIO's - and you can actually change their GPU's as they use MXM 3.0 GPU cards that are interchangeable. I had one for a few days, worked like a charm. Never turned it of, played loads of games on it and it never overheated. Though I did replace it with a Sony device a few days after I got, if only for the bigger screen :p Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
funkydude Posted September 16, 2011 Share Posted September 16, 2011 I just tried it on the Dev preview. Two clicks is all it took to get to the old control panel. It takes the same in Windows 7 Can do it in 1 click (less than 7) Hit flag+E on keyboard(my computer), click control panel on ribbon :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
htcz Posted September 16, 2011 Share Posted September 16, 2011 Jokes & Funny Stuff Why are users giving serious opinions on a thread about a joke? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DClark Posted September 16, 2011 Share Posted September 16, 2011 mac hardware is much better then HP's crap LOL. Foxconn hardware is much better than Foxconn's crap LOL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
remixedcat Posted September 16, 2011 Share Posted September 16, 2011 Touchsmarts are amongst the best rated AIO's best rated by who??? some of those sites are paid off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
azure.sapphire Posted September 16, 2011 Share Posted September 16, 2011 Can do it in 1 click (less than 7) Hit flag+E on keyboard(my computer), click control panel on ribbon :) I am pretty sure you can just type control panel or well...co in both and get the control panel. I haven't actually tried the dev. preview, though I will by tonight. It doesn't really matter though as most proper maintenance should be done from the command line. This at the moment can't be done, but hopefully this is something that will soon to corrected. I would love to see Windows being able to be used without a UI at all, though that is kind of doubtful on the client side. I have some slim hopes on the server side though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.Neo Posted September 16, 2011 Share Posted September 16, 2011 I'm calling it the tablet UI since it's obviously designed for use on tablets, even though Microsoft is forcing it on devices where it doesn't fit. I wish it was only used on tablets, Windows 8 wouldn't be so awkward to use on desktops then. The term is incorrect and shouldn't be used in official articles on the front page since it gives the wrong impression. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmc15john Posted September 17, 2011 Share Posted September 17, 2011 Nice. I love the reference even though I wasn't using window's back in the day. Oh, well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+dnast Subscriber² Posted September 18, 2011 Subscriber² Share Posted September 18, 2011 Can do it in 1 click (less than 7) Hit flag+E on keyboard(my computer), click control panel on ribbon :) You can do the same on 7, though I'm fine with 2 clicks on either version. I'm not so pessimistic about Windows 8 yet, but the joke was still funny! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cacoe Posted September 18, 2011 Share Posted September 18, 2011 Hasn't it been said many times before that touch for desktops is impractical because use for long periods of time causes ache /very/ quickly? Seems to be something that hasn't been touched on the whole time. Yes, metro might be brilliant for touch but is touch something that makes sense for desktops, period? I mean I thought this was the assumed reason we're not all using touchscreens already! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~Johnny Posted September 19, 2011 Share Posted September 19, 2011 Hasn't it been said many times before that touch for desktops is impractical because use for long periods of time causes ache /very/ quickly? Seems to be something that hasn't been touched on the whole time. Yes, metro might be brilliant for touch but is touch something that makes sense for desktops, period? I mean I thought this was the assumed reason we're not all using touchscreens already! We don't use touchscreens on desktops because the technology just isn't great for large screens. For 20"+ screens the most prevalent technology is Infra Red, which tend to be limited to two points, slightly slower, and being infra red they can actually detect fingers slightly above the screen, which can often confuse them. That, and programs just weren't designed with them in mind so there was never a big push (though All-In-Ones w/touch have been picking up traction a lot in recent years). The fact that Metro still works fine for Mouse & Keyboard still means it has relevance too, even if peope aren't going to be using it all the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xerax Posted September 19, 2011 Share Posted September 19, 2011 We don't use touchscreens on desktops because the technology just isn't great for large screens. For 20"+ screens the most prevalent technology is Infra Red, which tend to be limited to two points, slightly slower, and being infra red they can actually detect fingers slightly above the screen, which can often confuse them. That, and programs just weren't designed with them in mind so there was never a big push (though All-In-Ones w/touch have been picking up traction a lot in recent years). The fact that Metro still works fine for Mouse & Keyboard still means it has relevance too, even if peope aren't going to be using it all the time. I have a Touchsmart, and the touch is pretty good. No multi-touch which does suck i will say. But the touch is good for being lazy like scrolling down the menu. And i must agree, metro works really well with keyboard/mouse. I can do anything on 8 in as many clicks/as fast as I could as on 7. For example, press start, type photoshop. And i can open photoshop with a press of enter. Just like on 7, (the app search works faster than 7 aswell. So, boohoo to you startmenu haters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.Neo Posted September 19, 2011 Share Posted September 19, 2011 I can't even touch my 27-inch iMac's screen, I would have reach over. Next to that I honestly don't see the appeal in using a vertical touch screen for any prolonged time. It just isn't comfortable sitting with your arms up. I love what Apple did with OS X Lion and the multi-touch gestures on the Magic Trackpad: It's the perfect mash of having a classic desktop in combination with tablet-like interfacing. I don't think we'll have to wait long for the concept to mature more and are able to buy a second horizontal screen with is basically a touch-sensitive virtual keyboard and maybe even displays parts of the vertical screen (Menu Bar, Launchpad etc.). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mazhar Posted September 22, 2011 Share Posted September 22, 2011 I hope most people only use Taskbar and Start button in Windows 7, so it makes the whole desktop useless. I currently use Windows 7 and keep my desktop clean without any icons, just a wallpaper. So in a sense, tiles interface is much better. You only see what you need and nothing else matters at all. Windows 8 is a modern change that will one day be accepted and praised. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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