iTunes - The Best Windows App Ever Written!


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I think from GUI stand point iTunes looks stunning, way better than WMP ever looked. On a Mac it performs wonderfully.

However it is the biggest piece of bloated software I've ever had the misfortune to use, on Windows. I hate the way it forces you to have Quicktime, and all the other little bit of stuff Apple needs to keep an eye on it users......rant over.

Really? It looks so out of place in Windows. Like Windows 7 is full of glass Aero, and colour. iTunes does not even bother to use Aero, and uses a boring gray colour scheme that looks out of place.

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And his comparisons ignore the (at the time) fan favourite Winamp.

Goes to show the guy was full of crap.

Exactly! I was just about to post this same thing.

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I kind of want to know how Apple screens their attendees. Are there ever any hecklers in the audience for when they spout out BS like this? Maybe you have to sign some kind of contract or prove that you worship Steve Jobs before you get in. I would go to one of these just to troll the reality distortion field, even if I got tasered out of there.

Well the first 3 rows are always reserved for apple employee's. So when he says something and they show people clapping it's usually the front 3 rows.

I love how in that presentation when ever job said something people in the audience where always smiling, laughing and looking at each other. then you think, what the **** as so funny or amazing?

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I don't get what people have issues with...

I really how only two problems with the app, first, when an iOS device is connected the apps tab for the device is so slow that I don't know why anyone would ever use it to organize apps (unfortunately the file transfers are on this tab), second, there is no "now playing" playlist like you have in for example WMP, just a field to queue up songs to play for now, I'd love to see that... That's it! I really don't get what the problem is, I can image maybe it was worse before but there is really not much wrong with it now.

On the top of my list of worst "bloated" apps, a term people seem to use for slow and buggy apps, I'd put Steam.

I think from GUI stand point iTunes looks stunning, way better than WMP ever looked. On a Mac it performs wonderfully.

However it is the biggest piece of bloated software I've ever had the misfortune to use, on Windows. I hate the way it forces you to have Quicktime, and all the other little bit of stuff Apple needs to keep an eye on it users......rant over.

Yea, the Quicktime app is pretty crappy, I don't mind it though, some sites do have the alternative to play video using quicktime instead of flash (no plain html5 video available), quicktime flows a lot better in the browser and never lags for me.

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Well the first 3 rows are always reserved for apple employee's. So when he says something and they show people clapping it's usually the front 3 rows.

I love how in that presentation when ever job said something people in the audience where always smiling, laughing and looking at each other. then you think, what the **** as so funny or amazing?

Those are the ones that drank the Kool Aide. :)

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Actually, at the time that this conference was held, iTunes was my favorite on Windows. I hated all the alternatives. You have to remember when this was. We have so many options now which is why his statements no longer hold up. It is like getting a video of Windows 95 conference saying it is the best OS ever written or something.

I also did not like the earlier versions of Winamp, so don't say there was Winamp :p

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iTunes was and still is the WORST app ever written for Windows, period!!

Zune or Winamp FTW!!

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Really it's not. iTunes is free.

So are Zune and Winamp and they're 100,000,000,000 times better than iTunes!!

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So are Zune and Winamp and they're 1,000,000,000,000 times better the iTunes!!

Failed to notice I made the comparison strictly between Microsoft Office 2011 and iTunes and the person I quoted as well? And imagine if Microsoft couldn't even release a properly coded app for their own platform? Whether Zune Software is better than iTunes is a matter of opinion. Personally I think Zune Software sucks just as hard for having a non-standard interface that doesn't fit in with Windows 7, at all. In fact because it's made by Microsoft for Windows I think they're even worse.

At least Apple released a fully featured app for Windows, Mac users can't say the same of any piece of software made by Microsoft: Software is coded poorly and lacking in features. Maybe with the exception of their Silverlight plugin.

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Getting into serious business mode for a sec:

The problems I have with iTunes is buggy painting of the status bar controls (sometimes, minimizing and maximizing the window causes the refresh/shuffle sprites to be repainted in the wrong area; fixable by resizing the window), occasionally freezing upon connecting an iDevice, and sometimes not pushing lyrics changes to iDevices correctly. Otherwise it gets the job done.

As for the Zune Software - unnecessarily kicks my CPU fan into overdrive and higher resource usage than iTunes. Sure, the Now Playing view is fancier (if you can get the metadata to match perfectly), but most of the time the window is minimized while I'm working on something else. Don't really need the Marketplace as I have my own music collection, and I don't need it to monitor ALL my music folders as I want to selectively pick which ones end up in my library and on my devices.

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Failed to notice I made the comparison strictly between Microsoft Office 2011 and iTunes and the person I quoted as well? And imagine if Microsoft couldn't even release a properly coded app for their own platform? Whether Zune Software is better than iTunes is a matter of opinion. Personally I think Zune Software sucks just as hard for having a non-standard interface that doesn't fit in with Windows 7, at all. In fact because it's made by Microsoft for Windows I think they're even worse.

Really, comparing an Office Suite to a media player, that's not comparing Apples to Oranges is it!!

At least Microsoft wrote a properly coded app for Windows regardless of the non standard interface that's actually faster and monitors folders, something that iTunes still can't do!

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iTunes is GREAT ... on OSX, on Windows it's another story

like people have said, it's extremely laggy when working with iDeices and it's really slow to load

the windows version really needs to be rewritten from the ground up

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Getting into serious business mode for a sec:

The problems I have with iTunes is buggy painting of the status bar controls (sometimes, minimizing and maximizing the window causes the refresh/shuffle sprites to be repainted in the wrong area; fixable by resizing the window), occasionally freezing upon connecting an iDevice, and sometimes not pushing lyrics changes to iDevices correctly. Otherwise it gets the job done.

As for the Zune Software - unnecessarily kicks my CPU fan into overdrive and higher resource usage than iTunes. Sure, the Now Playing view is fancier (if you can get the metadata to match perfectly), but most of the time the window is minimized while I'm working on something else. Don't really need the Marketplace as I have my own music collection, and I don't need it to monitor ALL my music folders as I want to selectively pick which ones end up in my library and on my devices.

You do know that you can lower the display settings, I had to do this on my laptop but Zune runs perfectly on it. Also, you do know that you can tell Zune which folders you wish to monitor, don't you unlike iTunes which forces you to place your music in one, monitored folder.

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So are Zune and Winamp and they're 100,000,000,000 times better than iTunes!!

You know, I'd love to hear what makes Zune and Winamp so much better.

Zune sure is a great player, but what's so much (100000000000 times as you said) better than iTunes?

(I did use to like Winamp, back in like 99, back when all players sucked, unfortunately winamp is stuck in those times, crap compared to any modern player)

You do know that you can lower the display settings, I had to do this on my laptop but Zune runs perfectly on it. Also, you do know that you can tell Zune which folders you wish to monitor, don't you unlike iTunes which forces you to place your music in one, monitored folder.

Not really, well if you absolutely have to have it monitored... But otherwise you can have i anywhere you like and just add folder to library when there is something new and the new songs will be added, a little annoying, just as how songs bought in iTunes end up in the iTunes folder but I'll gladly sufffer trough that to have a player that can at least properly read and edit the songs metadata without screwing up which WMP (the reason i stopped using it) and Zune seem to do.

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You know, I'd love to hear what makes Zune and Winamp so much better.

Zune sure is a great player, but what's so much (100000000000 times as you said) better than iTunes?

(I did use to like Winamp, back in like 99, back when all players sucked, unfortunately winamp is stuck in those times, crap compared to any modern player)

How about the fact that both Winamp and Zune run much much better on any windows computer regardless of the specs? itunes is just bloated, and installs way too much stuff along with it. Personally, I find the Zune's UI to be better, and Winamp is skinnable. itunes is really garbage, and you know it's bad when mac people complain about it (my friends).
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Now I'm an Apple fan, and while it runs well on my systems, I have to admit this is the biggest overestimation since long!

iTunes is not a stellar performer, rather a ok-performer with many experiencing issues...

Maybe Apple devs are too much into XCode never getting their noses out of XCode documentation and doing Windows coding as a side hobby? :D

</joke>

Glassed Silver:mac

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