yxz Posted November 1, 2011 Share Posted November 1, 2011 China shook the international establishment last year when it unveiled the fastest supercomputer on the planet, besting its closest American rival by the number-crunching equivalent of a country mile. But last week, the Middle Kingdom?s newest supercomputer arrived with a much greater rumble ? even though it?s unlikely to crack the world top 10.Revealed last week at a conference in Jinan, China and profiled in The New York Times, the Sunway BlueLight MPP supercomputer doesn?t use microprocessors from Intel or AMD. It uses a chip designed by the Chinese themselves ? and it?s not the Chinese microprocessor the supercomputing community was expecting. In other words, the Chinese are developing two microprocessors that could shift not only bragging rights in the worldwide supercomputer game, but the general market for server silicon. http://www.wired.com/wiredenterprise/2011/10/sunway_super/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
123456789A Posted November 1, 2011 Share Posted November 1, 2011 That's pretty good. They are developing so fast. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muhammad Farrukh Posted November 1, 2011 Share Posted November 1, 2011 It uses a chip designed by the Chinese themselves (Y) So are we gonna see a new company in processor space in near future? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rudy Posted November 1, 2011 Share Posted November 1, 2011 (Y) So are we gonna see a new company in processor space in near future? I don't see it happening in the near future but I wouldn't be surprised if they would come up with something for 2013-15 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inklin Posted November 1, 2011 Share Posted November 1, 2011 china should push ahead with their microprocessors and also head towards making consumer grade processors too. Intel really does need the competition which so far AMD has failed somewhat. A Chinese chip maker could be a big threat to Intels patch along with the growing threat from the UK's ARM. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DocM Posted November 1, 2011 Share Posted November 1, 2011 I would remind folks that one of the DoD's fastest systems, the USAF Condor Cluster supercomputer, is made up of 1,760 Playstation 3's and 168 GPU's. It uses just 10% of the power used by comparable supercomputers. China will be using their Loongson processors, a MIPS- compatable running Linux, after the end of this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+LogicalApex MVC Posted November 1, 2011 MVC Share Posted November 1, 2011 The biggest question is what instruction set does it use? Intel has a monopoly on x86 so it won't see mass adoption on the Desktop. ARM seems like it will be the defacto standard on mobile with even Intel slipping back on pushing x86 into the mobile space. The reason Intel has a monopoly isn't because they have some kind of lock on the ability to manufacture chips. It is the fact that developers can only target a limited number of instruction sets. So the barrier to adoption lies in instruction sets and not chips themselves. I don't see this chip as being anything more than a national pride badge of honor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DocM Posted November 1, 2011 Share Posted November 1, 2011 As noted: the Loongson CPU will use a 64 bit MIPS compatable architecture.. Loongson = Dragon Chip Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PGHammer Posted November 1, 2011 Share Posted November 1, 2011 The biggest question is what instruction set does it use? Intel has a monopoly on x86 so it won't see mass adoption on the Desktop. ARM seems like it will be the defacto standard on mobile with even Intel slipping back on pushing x86 into the mobile space. The reason Intel has a monopoly isn't because they have some kind of lock on the ability to manufacture chips. It is the fact that developers can only target a limited number of instruction sets. So the barrier to adoption lies in instruction sets and not chips themselves. I don't see this chip as being anything more than a national pride badge of honor. Frazell - that is true of *all* supercomputing - from the megaliths in TOP500 to the desktop supercomputers of both yore and today - the prestige (e-peen, basically). Intel has produced chips used in supercomputing that *didn't* rely on x86 at all (three in particular - the i432, i860, and i960, with the latter two having a surprising additional usage - as part of the engine of HP's LaserJet 4 and 5). There is also the rather head-shaking deal between Cray Computer and Dell on Cray's *deskside* supercomputer (which can still be ordered via Dell's US website today). The PS3-based supercomputer used and built by the Air Force is unusual because it's based entirely on COTS (commercial off-the-shelf) PS3 hardware - not only darn unusual for military supercomputing, but *all* supercomputing. (The other PS3/Cell-processor-based supercomputers in TOP500 also include some specialized hardware, which is, amazingly, untrue of the Air Force SimulStation3 - my cryptonym for the USAF version.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tsupersonic Posted November 2, 2011 Share Posted November 2, 2011 Orrrrr chinese supercomputer so good Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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