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shakey    1,127

FFS people. Terrorism involves the use or threat of VIOLENCE against civilians to instill fear in order to push an agenda. Disrupting business or daily life is NOT an act of terrorism. Some of you are so biased against the occupy movements that you'll swallow any BS like this.

They are so biased, they don't even understand the damn definition. The real terrorist are the police forces and government. They are the ones using violence and threats against the civilians to keep a certain type of government system they want. People need to wake up, and stop being so ****ing stupid.

Protest do not follow rules. You do not fix a broken system by following the broken rules. When you are protesting against government, and it will involve thousands of people, it will be messy. Too many people here are just so petty, ignorant, lazy, and afraid of change. They can't see past their own life right now, to even bother envisioning a better life. They believe that the government we have had all this time is still find and dandy. They ignore ALL of history, and ALL of the corrupted that has happened over the past 50 years. They ignore everything, just so they can keep this illusion of a perfect life right now. They are too ignorant and afraid to even bother trying to change anything.

But they are the ones that don't matter. Those who do nothing but sit and complain, don't ever change a thing, and never make a difference. The ones who do make a difference... Those who get out, get their voice heard, and take action to back their voice.

So mock, berate, belittle, demean, and talk however you want. You will never make a difference in anything that is grandly important. Those who protest, will.

Got a source for that? I'm genuinley intrigued.

1 cop was "reported" stabbed by a broken bottle... could have fallen on it while swinging his club at protestors though. Hard to say. But when we have tons of evidence that proves cops have been falsely charging people, this should be taken very lightly.

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HSoft    400

FFS people. Terrorism involves the use or threat of VIOLENCE against civilians to instill fear in order to push an agenda. Disrupting business or daily life is NOT an act of terrorism. Some of you are so biased against the occupy movements that you'll swallow any BS like this.

No it doesn't. You can have terrorists that are non-violent.

Disrupting business can be an act of terrorism. What happens if some group hacks into Wall Street, the UK Exchange or whatever and effectively shuts it down? The end result could be panic and fear and just as potent, perhaps more so, so blowing up a building.

They are so biased, they don't even understand the damn definition. The real terrorist are the police forces and government.

bwahahaha. Biased much?

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ramesees    348

They are so biased, they don't even understand the damn definition. The real terrorist are the police forces and government. They are the ones using violence and threats against the civilians to keep a certain type of government system they want. People need to wake up, and stop being so ****ing stupid.

Protest do not follow rules. You do not fix a broken system by following the broken rules. When you are protesting against government, and it will involve thousands of people, it will be messy. Too many people here are just so petty, ignorant, lazy, and afraid of change. They can't see past their own life right now, to even bother envisioning a better life. They believe that the government we have had all this time is still find and dandy. They ignore ALL of history, and ALL of the corrupted that has happened over the past 50 years. They ignore everything, just so they can keep this illusion of a perfect life right now. They are too ignorant and afraid to even bother trying to change anything.

But they are the ones that don't matter. Those who do nothing but sit and complain, don't ever change a thing, and never make a difference. The ones who do make a difference... Those who get out, get their voice heard, and take action to back their voice.

So mock, berate, belittle, demean, and talk however you want. You will never make a difference in anything that is grandly important. Those who protest, will.

1 cop was "reported" stabbed by a broken bottle... could have fallen on it while swinging his club at protestors though. Hard to say. But when we have tons of evidence that proves cops have been falsely charging people, this should be taken very lightly.

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What will happen eventually (and sooner rather than later) is the word "Terrorist" will be used to describe anyone who speaks against the government and who seek to stand up against the corruption. Then by passing laws which deal with "Terrorism" and "Terrorists" the establishment will have the power to pick them up and sequester them away to some dark hole somewhere, no trial, no comeback, no appeal - just lifted and away.

Just look at the laws that are being passed now and not just in UK / USA but all around the world regarding these issues.

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M_Lyons10    454

Got a source for that? I'm genuinley intrigued.

Which part? It's been all over the news. Here's a few:

http://www.mercurynews.com/occupy-oakland/ci_19310327?source=rss

http://dailycaller.com/2011/10/07/kill-the-cops-shout-reported-during-occupy-new-orleans-protest/

http://biggovernment.com/publius/2011/11/14/professed-occupyportland-members-arrested-carrying-bombs-intended-for-police/

http://www.soopermexican.com/2011/11/15/occupy-portland-members-made-bombs-to-attack-police/

http://www.winknews.com/Local-Florida/2011-11-20/Occupy-protester-arrested-on-bomb-threat-charges

http://baltimore.cbslocal.com/2011/12/05/woman-charged-with-stabbing-at-occupy-baltimore/

http://tampa.cbslocal.com/2011/11/14/knife-fight-breaks-out-at-occupy-orlando-camp-over-loud-drum/

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2011/11/17/occupy-protestors-march-on-new-york-stock-exchange/

http://conservativehideout.com/2011/11/14/occupy-wall-street-sunday-update-police-slashed-in-sf-salt-laked-city-camp-bulldozed-tense-stand-off-in-portland/

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2011/11/new-york-police-officer-slashed-ows-protesters-throw-chemicals-at-cops/

http://newsfeed.time.com/2011/10/26/occupy-wall-street-led-to-rise-in-gun-crime-police-say/

http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/manhattan/armed_occupation_7IanEhRByIht6ajRonXRzJ

http://patdollard.com/2011/11/nypd-weapons-cache-found-during-zuccotti-park-cleanup/

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2011/11/23/weapons-cache-found-during-zuccotti-park-clean-up-sources/?test=latestnews#ixzz1eZYLxETV

http://www.bostonglobe.com/metro/2011/11/07/three-occupy-boston-marchers-charged-after-restaurant-scare/dy9k8iH3jvGv4RNg6yYe0L/story.html

http://losangeles.cbslocal.com/2011/11/07/socal-street-cart-vendors-hurting-after-occupy-group-splatters-blood-urine/

http://www.silive.com/news/index.ssf/2011/11/gunfire_rips_through_occupy_oa.html

http://www.kmtr.com/news/local/story/Gresham-police-bill-Occupy-Portland-for-vandalism/iYoFYCooQECw8P20siWWeQ.cspx

http://www.roosiehood.com/2011/11/us-bank-in-roosevelt-vandalized-early-this-morning/

I am at work, so I just posted the first links I could find with some examples. It's a pretty good mix I think, so it should be clear that this isn't a particular news source or agenda that's pushing these stories... All Occupy is is a bunch of dregs that got together in a large number.

I was really trying to find a story about a Restaurant owner who had been allowing the Occupy protestors to use her restroom until she found out they had been bathing in the sink and ripped it clean off the wall, causing $ 3,000 in damage. I believe this was in NY. After she told them they could not use her restroom any longer, they vandalized her restaurant. It's a great group of people. And in another example which I did link, they had been given free food from a hot dog and coffee cart that was usually set up there. When they took advantage and these cart owners (Not being rich, but clearly rich enough) said they could not give them free food anymore, they vandalized the carts, and even urinated and such on them. This movement is not about the 1%, it's about anyone that has more than these Occupiers... And these people 9 times out of 10 have more because they worked for it. Everyone seems to feel they just deserve things to be handed to them.

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shakey    1,127

Once again, just really ignore what some of these people post. They aren't doing anything, and they won't ever make a difference in the actual world. Sitting behind a computer, working day in and day out only for yourself, and ignoring the governments fraud will never make a difference. Those protesting will.

Got to just laugh at the excuses some of these guys make though. Oh, the protest is too disruptive, making a mess, and blocking business.... Ya, protest should all be done from insides one's house, on the computer. They should never be disruptive, damaging, go against the rules, or be against anything... That would really change the world!

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M_Lyons10    454

Once again, just really ignore what some of these people post. They aren't doing anything, and they won't ever make a difference in the actual world. Sitting behind a computer, working day in and day out only for yourself, and ignoring the governments fraud will never make a difference. Those protesting will.

Got to just laugh at the excuses some of these guys make though. Oh, the protest is too disruptive, making a mess, and blocking business.... Ya, protest should all be done from insides one's house, on the computer. They should never be disruptive, damaging, go against the rules, or be against anything... That would really change the world!

Which is fine, if it's sensical... Occupy is not (At least in the states). They don't even know what they want. And the list they were bouncing around was a joke (I'm glad they seem to have dropped that ridiculous mess). It's just a disgruntled group that's angry at the world and taking it out on anyone they possibly can. That's all it is. They can't even agree on anything.

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+Human.Online    8,749

Once again, just really ignore what some of these people post. They aren't doing anything, and they won't ever make a difference in the actual world. Sitting behind a computer, working day in and day out only for yourself, and ignoring the governments fraud will never make a difference. Those protesting will.

Got to just laugh at the excuses some of these guys make though. Oh, the protest is too disruptive, making a mess, and blocking business.... Ya, protest should all be done from insides one's house, on the computer. They should never be disruptive, damaging, go against the rules, or be against anything... That would really change the world!

Blah blah blah, rehtoric and nonsense. Occupy is going to change NOTHING!

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shakey    1,127

Blah blah blah, rehtoric and nonsense. Occupy is going to change NOTHING!

Ya, lets go back to the original Tea Party Movement, back before the American Revolution... Right now, you would be saying, " Those Tea Party people are nothing but thugs... Breaking onto businesses boats and dumping that tea over board is terrorism! They should abide by the Kings rules if they want change!"

You know, History sure is better off that people unlike you, actually did things that made a difference.

So ya, blah blah blah, that is all you say, and that is all you will ever do.

But I'm sure you understand history, government, that whole thing of not learning from is doomed to repeat, and such... Just keep up with that attitude of yours, because it has gotten people far to think like you.... :rofl:

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M_Lyons10    454

Ya, lets go back to the original Tea Party Movement, back before the American Revolution... Right now, you would be saying, " Those Tea Party people are nothing but thugs... Breaking onto businesses boats and dumping that tea over board is terrorism! They should abide by the Kings rules if they want change!"

You know, History sure is better off that people unlike you, actually did things that made a difference.

So ya, blah blah blah, that is all you say, and that is all you will ever do.

But I'm sure you understand history, government, that whole thing of not learning from is doomed to repeat, and such... Just keep up with that attitude of yours, because it has gotten people far to think like you.... :rofl:

Yes, and the Tea Party also had a clear and concise message. Taxation without representation... What does Occupy have? Eradicate Males? That's what one sign said. Free college for all? That was on their "list", though not sure how that would ever be paid for. The end to importing anything? Also on the "list", though since we don't make a whole heck of a lot, it creates a bit of a quandary. Redistribution of wealth? This seems to be popular among them, but what would the point be of trying to build something then? What would those that start businesses and such risk and what would they make that risk for? How about my personal favorite from the list - debt forgiveness. Surely we can afford that... :rolleyes: The movement was destined for failure from the beginning. There was virtually nothing they could have accomplished... And then they acted like a bunch of animals on top of it...

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shakey    1,127

Yes, and the Tea Party also had a clear and concise message. Taxation without representation... What does Occupy have? Eradicate Males? That's what one sign said. Free college for all? That was on their "list", though not sure how that would ever be paid for. The end to importing anything? Also on the "list", though since we don't make a whole heck of a lot, it creates a bit of a quandary. Redistribution of wealth? This seems to be popular among them, but what would the point be of trying to build something then? What would those that start businesses and such risk and what would they make that risk for? How about my personal favorite from the list - debt forgiveness. Surely we can afford that... :rolleyes: The movement was destined for failure from the beginning. There was virtually nothing they could have accomplished... And then they acted like a bunch of animals on top of it...

Really? You still don't understand the message? Well, I'm sure not going to state what it is, because if you can't figure it out by now, it shows why you obviously don't understand why people are protesting. It is very very simple, if you would actually do some research or listen, instead of ignoring everything.

This is what is the thing, there are people, who can't even grasp the simple ideal of the protest, who then cry about it. Maybe you should learn why they are protesting, and then you might understand why. But it requires you to use your brain, and not just sit ignorantly at home and listen to what Fox says.

There is a message, but if you can't understand it by now, you should just step away and ignore it. You won't do any good for it, and sitting at your home disagreeing about something you don't understand will not stop it either.

Your post shows exactly what you understand - Nothing.

http://freefrombroke.com/what-is-occupy-wall-street-and-should-you-care/

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Occupy_Wall_Street

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HSoft    400

Ya, lets go back to the original Tea Party Movement, back before the American Revolution... Right now, you would be saying, " Those Tea Party people are nothing but thugs... Breaking onto businesses boats and dumping that tea over board is terrorism! They should abide by the Kings rules if they want change!"

You know, History sure is better off that people unlike you, actually did things that made a difference.

So ya, blah blah blah, that is all you say, and that is all you will ever do.

But I'm sure you understand history, government, that whole thing of not learning from is doomed to repeat, and such... Just keep up with that attitude of yours, because it has gotten people far to think like you.... :rofl:

Your grasping at straws here trying to compare the original Tea Party with the occupy folks.

The occupy movement is nothing but a bunch of drug taking losers (at least two deaths reported due to excessive drug use at the occupy camps) wanting everybody else to pay for their things, no responsibility, an end to capitalism and to bring in a marxist style government. Seriously, is that what you want?

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Nerd Rage    546

Really? You still don't understand the message? Well, I'm sure not going to state what it is

This is because they don't have a clear message. Have you ever talked to any of the occupy protesters? Many of them can't even give a clear reason why they are there or what they are attempting to get changed. Basically, their message is "Rich people suck and must be corrupt"

The real terrorist are the police forces and government.

For someone who is always quick to say how ignorant people are on these forums, this is one if the, if not THE MOST ignorant statement I have ever seen posted here.

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Alley Cat    8

WTH is wrong with UK police to look Occupy protestors as terrorists ?

Yes, based on this behaviour their Police Services is way out of touch with reality. Looks like a few in upper management needs to either retire or move on to another job. Idiots like that can cause major damage to the public

You have it wrong. They are protesting against the disruption of daily life, and the economy that the "1%" has already caused.

Ah the irony. The police service has been for some time at odds with reality. You have to give it to them, they've twisted objectivity in a hallucinating way.

I guess others have it worse, if you look in the US, but that's not the point.

Less of their view of security would make me feel safer.

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Astra.Xtreme    2,874

Which is fine, if it's sensical... Occupy is not (At least in the states). They don't even know what they want. And the list they were bouncing around was a joke (I'm glad they seem to have dropped that ridiculous mess). It's just a disgruntled group that's angry at the world and taking it out on anyone they possibly can. That's all it is. They can't even agree on anything.

Agreed x100. There was a pretty sizable group of "occupy" people bumming around Milwaukee occupying parks and bridges and whatnot, but all it really was was a bunch of unemployed and bums simply looking for a handout or to **** people off. The parks they "occupied" were really comical since it was literally a slum they created. And on top of that, when a few of them got interviewed on TV, they were wearing baseball jerseys and athletic apparel. :rofl: These people are simply brainless to what they are trying to stand for. They aren't protesters, they're bums.

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shakey    1,127

This is because they don't have a clear message. Have you ever talked to any of the occupy protesters? Many of them can't even give a clear reason why they are there or what they are attempting to get changed. Basically, their message is "Rich people suck and must be corrupt"

For someone who is always quick to say how ignorant people are on these forums, this is one if the, if not THE MOST ignorant statement I have ever seen posted here.

Again, this is a post of someone who knows absolutely nothing about the movement and the definition of terrorism. He says my statement is ignorant, yet we can clearly see police using military tactics on peaceful protestors. We can see them using force on unarmed, peaceful women. Ya, If I'm ignorant, you are something closer to being devoid of consciousness.

No one has a problem with people being RICH. But plenty have problems with the most wealthy getting away with criminal acts, having laws wrote to benefit just them, and other corruption due to it. Again, stop being ignorant and learn the ****ing facts. From many of your post, you don't understand a single thing. There is a clear message. You are just too simple minded to apparently understand it.

Agreed x100. There was a pretty sizable group of "occupy" people bumming around Milwaukee occupying parks and bridges and whatnot, but all it really was was a bunch of unemployed and bums simply looking for a handout or to **** people off. The parks they "occupied" were really comical since it was literally a slum they created. And on top of that, when a few of them got interviewed on TV, they were wearing baseball jerseys and athletic apparel. :rofl: These people are simply brainless to what they are trying to stand for. They aren't protesters, they're bums.

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Ya, how dare someone be unemployed. All who are unemployed are lazy, stupid, and there are plenty of jobs to go around! see, more ignorance being posted by people who have absolutely not 1 single clue about the crisis this country is in. How dare they own clothes. How dare they have any type of belongings! Seriously, are you that stupid? Can you not grasp a simple concept of Business money in politics is corrupt, and that mostly all of our politicians and those in seats of power, are corrupted by it? Apparently not. Most of you seem to believe that the only time to protest is when everyone is dirt poor, naked, and starving. But guess what, some people don't want it to ever get to that point..... But you guys, naa, first it must be as bad as possible.... I'm glad you guys only have a voice online, where the real world really isn't affected.

Seems like plenty of people, during working hours, are just sitting on their ass on a PC, complaining about the people who are really doing something to try and make a difference for the rest of the nation. That's the sad reality.

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Astra.Xtreme    2,874

Ya, how dare someone be unemployed. All who are unemployed are lazy, stupid, and there are plenty of jobs to go around! see, more ignorance being posted by people who have absolutely not 1 single clue about the crisis this country is in. How dare they own clothes. How dare they have any type of belongings! Seriously, are you that stupid? Can you not grasp a simple concept of Business money in politics is corrupt, and that mostly all of our politicians and those in seats of power, are corrupted by it? Apparently not. Most of you seem to believe that the only time to protest is when everyone is dirt poor, naked, and starving. But guess what, some people don't want it to ever get to that point..... But you guys, naa, first it must be as bad as possible.... I'm glad you guys only have a voice online, where the real world really isn't affected.

Seems like plenty of people, during working hours, are just sitting on their ass on a PC, complaining about the people who are really doing something to try and make a difference for the rest of the nation. That's the sad reality.

Are you done yet? Take a few breathes will ya...

First of all, instead of a bunch of bums occupying the bridges and parks, why don't they go occupy the classified ads... Why is it that almost every newspaper I read has tons and tons of job openings week after week? The answer is that people are either too stupid and/or lazy to pursue such jobs, or they would rather sit on the couch and collect welfare since our lovely government keeps the gravy train rolling for them... Saying there is a shortage of jobs is such a BS statement that people shouldn't even be allowed to use it anymore.

But since you are so convinced that people should get out there and protest, can you please show me where any off this "occupy" junk has done any good? All these people are doing is making fools out of themselves especially because their basis for what they stand for is ridiculous. They cause damage, they disrupt the working people's lives, and they aren't getting anything done... So again, please explain why they should keep doing what they are doing...

And FYI, this country is built on Capitalism. And capitalism is another word for greed. There isn't a damn thing that any protesters or anybody can do to change that. The quicker people realize that, the quicker they can come back to reality and stop making themselves look like fools.

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mokthraka    159

at the occupy portland camps, there was 1 or 2 murders, and people where getting raped... sorry I cant support that.

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mokthraka    159

So you're against something you obviously know nothing about? "1 or 2 murders", really? If you really were against something for a legit reason, you'd at least know the facts and not make up stuff and guess as you go.

People being murdered isnt something tiny that anyone should just guess about and use as an ignorent excuse.

fine then, lets talk about the damage they did

http://www.kgw.com/news/local/Portland-commissioner-Occupy-camps-cause-19K-in-damage-132013693.html

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shakey    1,127

fine then, lets talk about the damage they did

http://www.kgw.com/n...-132013693.html

Protest are a HUGE part of democracy. Especially when the Government has shown to not be listening to the citizens.

You can't discredit a whole movement, of over tens of thousands of people, over 1 or 2 murders. Those people who are doing those bad things, do not represent the movement in anyway. That is like saying ALL of America is horrible because of the KKK. You can't generalize stuff like that. Doing so just shows ignorance and blind stupidity.

That's good you don't support murder and rape, cause neither does the movement. Do you see signs saying, " RAPE AND MURDER YAY!" No.

Do you support Wall Street dictating laws? Do you support businesses, like the MIAA and others, buying the government out and having rules that are against the population, but for just 1 specific business? Do you support banks breaking the law and being bailed out, then getting bonuses? Do you support our politicians, holding peoples lives in stake, over a small increase tax that wouldn't even affect their lives? Do you support police abuse on unarmed citizens? Do you support a nation that has the HIGHEST jailed population, though it's own motto is "Land of the Free"?

There is a TON of issues that this country has wrong with it. So for people wanting 1 concise message, it is, a better nation. You can't just footnote 1 reason in, and say that is what you are working for, when there is more than just that 1 issue. The big message by Occupy is to end government corruption at the hands of bribes, business lobbyist, and under desk deals.There is also the issue with Wallstreet, that created this recession, and no one was faulted for it. Instead, those in wallstreet were bailed out and given bonuses, all the while, those who were doing business with them, were left to burn. But there is more that is needed to be done than just that to fix the nation, so there are other messages as well. If you would actually research the issue, instead of being spoonfed crap on the TV, you might actually learn something useful.

If you are looking for just 1 reason, it isn't that simple. If you can't understand it, then you are simple or just ignorant to the plight of the nation and thousands in it.

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Nerd Rage    546

Again, this is a post of someone who knows absolutely nothing about the movement and the definition of terrorism. He says my statement is ignorant, yet we can clearly see police using military tactics on peaceful protestors. We can see them using force on unarmed, peaceful women. Ya, If I'm ignorant, you are something closer to being devoid of consciousness.

No one has a problem with people being RICH. But plenty have problems with the most wealthy getting away with criminal acts, having laws wrote to benefit just them, and other corruption due to it. Again, stop being ignorant and learn the ****ing facts. From many of your post, you don't understand a single thing. There is a clear message. You are just too simple minded to apparently understand it.

A clear message which no one in the country, including yourself and the protesters know.........NOW that's so clear it's down right invisible!

People breaking the law who refuse to stop need to be met with force sometimes. The police are not terrorists because of this, they are removing people by force for the good of all the people that work and pay taxes like me. I, for one, appreciate what they are doing.

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M_Lyons10    454

Again, this is a post of someone who knows absolutely nothing about the movement and the definition of terrorism. He says my statement is ignorant, yet we can clearly see police using military tactics on peaceful protestors. We can see them using force on unarmed, peaceful women. Ya, If I'm ignorant, you are something closer to being devoid of consciousness.

No one has a problem with people being RICH. But plenty have problems with the most wealthy getting away with criminal acts, having laws wrote to benefit just them, and other corruption due to it. Again, stop being ignorant and learn the ****ing facts. From many of your post, you don't understand a single thing. There is a clear message. You are just too simple minded to apparently understand it.

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Ya, how dare someone be unemployed. All who are unemployed are lazy, stupid, and there are plenty of jobs to go around! see, more ignorance being posted by people who have absolutely not 1 single clue about the crisis this country is in. How dare they own clothes. How dare they have any type of belongings! Seriously, are you that stupid? Can you not grasp a simple concept of Business money in politics is corrupt, and that mostly all of our politicians and those in seats of power, are corrupted by it? Apparently not. Most of you seem to believe that the only time to protest is when everyone is dirt poor, naked, and starving. But guess what, some people don't want it to ever get to that point..... But you guys, naa, first it must be as bad as possible.... I'm glad you guys only have a voice online, where the real world really isn't affected.

Seems like plenty of people, during working hours, are just sitting on their ass on a PC, complaining about the people who are really doing something to try and make a difference for the rest of the nation. That's the sad reality.

Wow, I'm sorry to say that I don't think you have any room to call anyone on these forums ignorant of the Occupy Movement. You have not a flaming idea what they are communicating about themselves. I guess this should be no surprise really, as the Occupy protestors themselves are JUST AS CONFUSED AS YOU ARE...

And for the record, these police were not using military tactics on peaceful protestors. And as I showed in a number of the news stories I posted, they were neither unarmed OR peaceful. They were occupying property they did not own and attacking other civilians, protestors, and police.

And then you're going to call others ignorant? Seriously, you really need to back off. You clearly don't understand what's going on. At all. This isn't a group of people protesting because they have any real, cohesive issue, they're protesting because they feel they "deserve" something. And that's when they're not going on about some completely unrelated issue that they feel should be made part of their "cause". Which at this point nobody can discern. I'm all for things improving, but this is hardly the way to do it. It's like trying to answer a question when you don't even know the question. Not to mention that many of the people at these camps have been found not to even be protestors... They're bums that congregated in the group for the food and shelter. Many of which I'm sure left because the crime was so high... LOL

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scratch42069    16

Why is everyone painting all people with the same brush. Everyone turns a blind eye to cops or government operatives implanting themselves in these movements. Why is it every time a group rallies against the government and instigators cause mayhem purposely, the brush paints everyone a terrorist and no one asks the question, were these people purposely making the decent protesters look bad?

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mokthraka    159

So you post an article that has nothing to do with the reasons you gave for not supporting these people?

Ha, where's all the despicable violence that you're speaking of? All that article basically says that is the trees are POSSIBLY being damaged, and POSSIBLY fish being are killed from people simply camping there.

Which is something new to me, I didn?t know camping would kill the trees or fish.

Maybe that?s why the oceans are almost depleted of fish, and the forests are being wiped daily, because of campers? Oh wait, that?s corporate greed doing that. Over logging, and over fishing.

LIGHT cosmetic damage to a park is well worth what they are protesting against, and the benefits their protests will bring to everyone?s lives.

Try again.

there not protesting ****, they are camping, its homeless people, I walked around the camps, there are needles everywhere. they ruined that park

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M_Lyons10    454

So you post an article that has nothing to do with the reasons you gave for not supporting these people?

Ha, where's all the despicable violence that you're speaking of? All that article basically says that is the trees are POSSIBLY being damaged, and POSSIBLY fish being are killed from people simply camping there.

Which is something new to me, I didn?t know camping would kill the trees or fish.

Maybe that?s why the oceans are almost depleted of fish, and the forests are being wiped daily, because of campers? Oh wait, that?s corporate greed doing that. Over logging, and over fishing.

LIGHT cosmetic damage to a park is well worth what they are protesting against, and the benefits their protests will bring to everyone?s lives.

Try again.

Go back a few pages, I posted a number of news stories detailing the violence and damage they're doing.

As for comparing what they're doing to "camping"... Having camped myself, I can say that they most certainly are not camping. When you camp, you don't leave your filth everywhere (Doing so isn't so great for the ecology)... They have been making such a disgusting mess that cleaners from the cities have had to go in there with hazmat suits. Residents BLOCKS AWAY have complained of the smell... No, that is NOT camping...

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Wow are you still here being ignorant? Many of us told you the reasons several times in all these topics you troll in, and yet you act like we haven?t told you anything.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RZgZeAOaq4U

No sense arguing with you, you?ll still ignore the facts.

I don't this there is any point in this topic. They clearly will just ignore anything shown to them that is based on real world logic.

Correct, you are the one who need to learn what is going on. When there are thousands of banks in the US and a handful of them (albeit huge ones) need to be bailed out, the protesters make a generalization that bank are corrupt, break laws, etc etc etc. So now we see protesters, of whom a large percentage are dressed in dirty closes, making messes, breaking laws, etc etc etc and you except us to not make generalizations in return???

I've seen hippies' viewpoints and then I've seen shakey's. You sir, are in a league of your own :)

Ya, a persons views are totally irrational when they wear dirty clothes.... Those are the types of statements that make your comments have 0 merit.

How would you protest?

Go back a few pages, I posted a number of news stories detailing the violence and damage they're doing.

As for comparing what they're doing to "camping"... Having camped myself, I can say that they most certainly are not camping. When you camp, you don't leave your filth everywhere (Doing so isn't so great for the ecology)... They have been making such a disgusting mess that cleaners from the cities have had to go in there with hazmat suits. Residents BLOCKS AWAY have complained of the smell... No, that is NOT camping...

how would you protest?

You all seem to have opinions, so how would you protest a corrupt government? Put yourself into another one of your fantasy worlds, one where the government is seen as corrupt by you. How would you protest? Would you just write a nasty note and hope for something?

How would you have a 10's of thousands person protest go? Please, if you are all so enlightened. Answer with all your mighty knowledge.

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