How to play super nintendo games on ps3

[SylentSlayer]

Any simple to follow guide on how to do it? I don't care about legal issues I own every game I plan to run through the ps3. My AV cables for my super nintendo are broken which is why I can't just connect my system like I would prefer.

[Hell-In-A-Handbasket]

Any simple to follow guide on how to do it? I don't care about legal issues I own every game I plan to run through the ps3. My AV cables for my super nintendo are broken which is why I can't just connect my system like I would prefer.

would have to put a form of linux on there i think, which Sony disabled/removed. so i dont think there is a way

unless you own a Fat PS3 that hasnt been updated

*in addition, even though you own the game, doesnt mean squat, you own the lisence to run it on the origional system with origional cart. that lisence is not transferable between systems, or from backups

[Xtreme2damax]

*in addition, even though you own the game, doesnt mean squat, you own the lisence to run it on the origional system with origional cart. that lisence is not transferable between systems, or from backups

Not true.

If he owns the original games he is entitled to make a backup and run it on an emulator of his choosing, it would be no different than if he had two Super Nintendo systems or even no system at all. Many people do this and there has been absolutely no legal repercussions not that it is illegal to begin with, as emulators have existed for years with no legal issues. Also, as far as the US Supreme court is concerned emulation is a morally grey subject, although not illegal. Obtaining roms from romsites to run on an emulator is an entirely different matter and when it actually becomes a legal issue.

@Op, there are guides around the web if you look. You are not going to really get much of a response here especially with Neowin's and most Neowin members attitudes against piracy and anything related to piracy. PS3 is going to be difficult and if you have a slim model that is fully updated or any fully updated PS3 it's pretty much impossible.

[Xerino]

Without Linux or a Jailbreak running a SNES emulator is not feasible

[Hell-In-A-Handbasket]

Not true.

If he owns the original games he is entitled to make a backup and run it on an emulator of his choosing, it would be no different than if he had two Super Nintendo systems or even no system at all. Many people do this and there has been absolutely no legal repercussions not that it is illegal to begin with, as emulators have existed for years with no legal issues. Also, as far as the US Supreme court is concerned emulation is a morally grey subject, although not illegal. Obtaining roms from romsites to run on an emulator is an entirely different matter and when it actually becomes a legal issue.

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Might want to tell Nintendo then http://www.nintendo.com/corp/legal.jsp#download_rom

*edit ALSO rooms were deemed Not applicable under the backup personal use as they are considered not volatile, And not on the origional medium. Fair Use backup is along lines of same format to same format, not Cassete to CD, not DVD to HDD, and NOT cartridge to Computer.

Atari, Inc. v. JS&A Group, Inc.? 597 F.Supp. 5 (N.D. IL, 1983)

JS&A Group were the vendors of a cart dumper called the "PROM Blaster" for Atari 2600 videogames.? It was a device designed to allow its operators to dump the object code from within the ROMs of an Atari 2600 videogame cartridge.? Atari sued JS&A for contributory copyright infringement of its proprietary videogame software.? JS&A argued that archival copying was permitted under copyright law? (17 USC 117), so the purpose of a cart dumper constituted "substantial non-infringing use."? The court found that a computer program embedded within a piece of hardware, such as the ROMs used within a typical videogame cartridge, cannot be reprogrammed or erased.? As such, it was contained within a form of storage media designed to permanently preserve the program.? JS&A's contention that cart dumps protected the actual cartridge against possible physical harm (and thus the program embedded inside) might also be applied to other forms of physical media, such as phonograph records and books.? Since copyright law did not allow for this practice in regard to these and other such forms of physical media (photocopying a book, physically duplicating a phonograph record), they likewise did not apply to the practice of archiving computer programs embedded within a piece of hardware.? The archival exception for computer software did not apply to programs stored within permanent storage media (in this case a videogame cartridge) because these forms of media are not subject to the sort of risks that the archival clause was designed to guard against.? As a result, the court ruled that dumping a videogame cartridge for archival purposes is not covered by the archival clause of copyright law.

This case would prove to be the most important one in subsequent cases regarding the desire to duplicate program code contained within some form of permanent storage media in general, and the twin practices of videogame cartridge and arcade ROM dumping in particular.? It has been modified in at least one respect over the years; see also Sega v. Accolade, 1992.

http://www.worldofspectrum.org/EmuFAQ2000/AppendixB.htm

[Xtreme2damax]

Might want to tell Nintendo then http://www.nintendo....sp#download_rom

*edit ALSO rooms were deemed Not applicable under the backup personal use as they are considered not volatile, And not on the origional medium

Atari, Inc. v. JS&A Group, Inc.  597 F.Supp. 5 (N.D. IL, 1983)
JS&A Group were the vendors of a cart dumper called the "PROM Blaster" for Atari 2600 videogames.  It was a device designed to allow its operators to dump the object code from within the ROMs of an Atari 2600 videogame cartridge.  Atari sued JS&A for contributory copyright infringement of its proprietary videogame software.  JS&A argued that archival copying was permitted under copyright law  (17 USC 117), so the purpose of a cart dumper constituted "substantial non-infringing use."  The court found that a computer program embedded within a piece of hardware, such as the ROMs used within a typical videogame cartridge, cannot be reprogrammed or erased.  As such, it was contained within a form of storage media designed to permanently preserve the program.  JS&A's contention that cart dumps protected the actual cartridge against possible physical harm (and thus the program embedded inside) might also be applied to other forms of physical media, such as phonograph records and books.  Since copyright law did not allow for this practice in regard to these and other such forms of physical media (photocopying a book, physically duplicating a phonograph record), they likewise did not apply to the practice of archiving computer programs embedded within a piece of hardware.  The archival exception for computer software did not apply to programs stored within permanent storage media (in this case a videogame cartridge) because these forms of media are not subject to the sort of risks that the archival clause was designed to guard against.  As a result, the court ruled that dumping a videogame cartridge for archival purposes is not covered by the archival clause of copyright law.
This case would prove to be the most important one in subsequent cases regarding the desire to duplicate program code contained within some form of permanent storage media in general, and the twin practices of videogame cartridge and arcade ROM dumping in particular.  It has been modified in at least one respect over the years; see also Sega v. Accolade, 1992.

So? That was brought up already and debunked, you would be a fool if you believe that, Nintendo is not the law and that legal jargon won't hold up in court as far as the law is concerned. I'm referring to the jargon on the Nintendo website which is nothing more than a blatant scare tactic and has absolutely no legal backing.That whole emulators and roms is bad mmk is bullcrap and has no place in an any debate on the subject as it has been proven untrue. Extracting a game from a cartridge may be a grey area but I am certain that isn't illegal just as emulation isn't illegal. If it was illegal neither the emulators to run the games or emulation websites, hosted in the USA mind you, would exist. How else do you suggest that people get the games to play on the emulator? Download them? Now that would indeed be illegal, extracting from legally owned media and hardware would be more proper.

I've been around the emulation scene for the past seven years, I've seen this subject and accompanying arguments against emulation and rom dumping debated numerous times and debunked. Who do you think is going to get in (more) trouble, the person that hasn't purchased the software and is downloading illegally from torrents and romsites or a decent person that has invested in purchasing the games and dumping them him/herself? Have you ever heard of anyone getting in trouble for backing up their purchased games and/or playing them on an emulator?

The Atari case is a different subject, not only does it not pertain to end users but there could be other circumstances. The devices may only be illegal to sell within the USA and other areas, but the use of devices to back up games is not strictly illegal especially when there is no intent of redistribution or profiting.

[Hell-In-A-Handbasket]

well how bout this, give your name number and address to nintendo legal and tell them you have alot of roms, and dare them to do something about it. record it and post it.

and did you even READ the court case which stated " The archival exception for computer software did not apply to programs stored within permanent storage media (in this case a videogame cartridge) because these forms of media are not subject to the sort of risks that the archival clause was designed to guard against "

and i didnt even get that from nintendo, i got that from a ROM site

here is the section it says http://www.bitlaw.co.../17usc/117.html ( the court said ROMS were not covered under this, and deemed Illegal, and has been since 1983

Atari, Inc. v. JS&A Group, Inc. 597 F.Supp. 5 (N.D. IL, 1983)

http://www.patentarc...d-ill-1983.html

and it doesnt matter who may get in more trouble, legally they are both the same.

So? That was brought up already and debunked, you would be a fool if you believe that, Nintendo is not the law and that legal jargon won't hold up in court as far as the law is concerned. I'm referring to the jargon on the Nintendo website which is nothing more than a blatant scare tactic and has absolutely no legal backing.That whole emulators and roms is bad mmk is bullcrap and has no place in an any debate on the subject as it has been proven untrue. Extracting a game from a cartridge may be a grey area but I am certain that isn't illegal just as emulation isn't illegal. If it was illegal neither the emulators to run the games or emulation websites, hosted in the USA mind you, would exist. How else do you suggest that people get the games to play on the emulator? Download them? Now that would indeed be illegal, extracting from legally owned media and hardware would be more proper.

[nominak]

I've been around the emulation scene for the past seven years, I've seen this subject and accompanying arguments against emulation and rom dumping debated numerous times and debunked. Who do you think is going to get in (more) trouble, the person that hasn't purchased the software and is downloading illegally from torrents and romsites or a decent person that has invested in purchasing the games and dumping them him/herself? Have you ever heard of anyone getting in trouble for backing up their purchased games and/or playing them on an emulator?

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99.9999% of people who get roms, are not backing them up themselves.

[Xtreme2damax]

You mean like the delete within 24 hours bullcrap posted on romsites, do you believe that as well? I'm not really sure what to think if you actually believe that jargon on Nintendo's website, something posted on a romsite and believe it's illegal to backup purchased media and/or play via emulation. I've been around long enough and know what I am talking about. You know, I will and you know what, Nintendo will not be able to do a damn thing.

I'll let you know if anything happens. I have nothing to fear and I doubt anything will become of it other than a generic "Sorry, we don't support that" response.

[Xtreme2damax]

99.9999% of people who get roms, are not backing them up themselves.

So? Even if that is the case, why does it matter to the .0001% that are making the effort to jump through hoops to play the most legal way that they possibly can? That type of argument can be applied to nearly anything btw.. Some people do back up their games, even those that own the hardware and play via emulation due to enhancements that can be done via emulation that is not possible on the actual hardware or for portability.

[Hell-In-A-Handbasket]

NOALegal addy isnt showing, also that you stated you do the backups yourself,( verry verry doubtfull) ironicaly is exactially what Atari, Inc. v. JS&A Group was all about and JS&A Lost in 1983. AND the very document you sent in the email even says its illegal.

and again, the court said that the Cartridges doesnt fall under the backup clause, CD games say for the Sega CD, PS Series, etc, etc DO fall under the backup exception. just not cartriges.

*Edit* all in all you say its legal, i say its not, either of us wont be swayed. so whatever

[spy beef]

I am a lawyer, and I can tell you that there is nothing illegal about emulating roms if you actually own the actual cartridges.

[Xtreme2damax]

It may be illegal to manufacture and sell these devices where prohibited, not to own and backup yourself especially if you aren't redistributing anything. I could buy a modchip and mod my console or softmod if I wanted, they could prevent me from playing online but they could not arrest or sue me for it. If that was the case I doubt emulators would support anything other than homebrew, regardless I doubt anyone is shaking in their boots let alone anyone that cares since there is no chance of Nintendo or anyone else going after someone backing up their games vs. going after someone downloading off of torrents and other p2p.

[Obi-Wan Kenobi]

I've always wondered the same thing, but have never dared to ask, due to the fact that this IS a PS3, and if I wanted to run SNES games, then I'd dig out my old SNES....plus, I didn't want to break any rules. So what I can guess is: if you can find a guide on google to get you going, good luck, else, you're not going to get any help here, as everyone (including myself) does not support stealing from developers. </thread> ;)

[Brandon H Supervisor]

developers don't even get any money from those games anymore O.o

when it comes to emulators/roms i personally don't mind doing it for previous gen games that aren't sold anymore (a.k.a only found at a used game shops) and that the game companies don't make a profit off of anymore

but when it comes to current gen games, I say it's only ok if you own a physical copy (i'll admit i have a flash-card for my DS, but I own all the games i have on it)

but that's just my opinion on the subject, now if this guy's question isn't going to get answered or it's not allowed to be talked about here, can this thread either be cleaned or locked please

thank you

[Yusuf M. Veteran]

You won't find the answer to your question on Neowin.

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