DocM Posted February 2, 2012 Author Share Posted February 2, 2012 While they are at it, they should also regulate salt and food preservatives! Many preservatives are actually antioxidants or can otherwise be good for you; Vitamin C, the sorbates, citric acid, sorbic acid, sodium benzoate and benzoic acid among them. As to salt, it is under serious re-examination after a couple of studies published late last year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Mirumir Subscriber¹ Posted February 2, 2012 Subscriber¹ Share Posted February 2, 2012 Many preservatives are actually antioxidants or can otherwise be good for you; I wouldn't say many...only those that occur naturally - I don't worry about these cause the vast majority of the preservatives used in the food industry are the synthetic ones. Vitamin C, the sorbates, citric acid, sorbic acid, sodium benzoate and benzoic acid among them. 1) Citric acid contains Vitamin C, 2) sorbic acid is a type of sorbates, and 3) benzoic acid is made from sodium benzoate - so you've really given only three there despite giving the impression of listing many. NB: In combination with ascorbic acid (vitamin C, E300), sodium benzoate and potassium benzoate form benzene, a known carcinogen. ... In response to consumer insistence on a more natural product and E211's links to DNA damage and ADHD, the Coca Cola Company is in the process of phasing Sodium Benzoate out of Diet Coke. So I wouldn't bet on Sodium Benzoate ;) A healthy body should produce enough of benzoic acid on its own. To reinforce my argument: I'm against all harmful food additives. The synthetic preservatives is the first thing that comes to mind, but there are also all kinds of other agents that need to be regulated (or I'd rather see them eliminated from my food altogether!) such as acidity regulators, colorings and color retention agents, emulsifiers, flavour enhancers (i hate these!), stabilizers, thickening agents, and etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stealthy_Singh Posted February 2, 2012 Share Posted February 2, 2012 Many preservatives are actually antioxidants or can otherwise be good for you; Vitamin C, the sorbates, citric acid, sorbic acid, sodium benzoate and benzoic acid among them. As to salt, it is under serious re-examination after a couple of studies published late last year. Salt is being re-thought about. However as for the preservatives a cochrane meta analysis of a large number of studies showed a slight increase in your chance of death if taking supplemental antioxidants. Most studies that lead to claims of benefits are bench top based lab studies on cells not people. The only real extra supplemental benefit vitamin C has been shown to have in people is an average of a 4 day reduction of cold symptoms per year in children. However I do think sugar and sweet food containing high sugars should not be allowed to advertise to children as aside from a healthy diet children need little if any supplements. And a healthy diet does not include high sugar containing sweets and chocolates.That's not to say an occasional treat is never warranted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelxin Posted February 2, 2012 Share Posted February 2, 2012 I think this is 100% wrong... 1) Legalize drugs, alcohol, whatever. 2) Of course keep it illegal to partake in activities such as driving, etc to keep society safe from mass destruction while on these substances. 3) Remove all healthcare coverages for any problems created from these substances (including ALL obesity issues, if you're THAT over weight you're not covered, PERIOD) 4) Watch natural selection cleanse the human race Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Southern Patriot Posted February 2, 2012 Share Posted February 2, 2012 My local store carries very little when it comes to health care products. You see I live at 7650 ft up in the Sawtooth Mts. of central Idaho, and about all we get is the usual necessaties of life (milk, bread, candy, packaged donuts, etc., you know all that high sugar stuff outdoor sports nuts need to get their engery levels up). It isn't with the healthcare products, it is right there with the other sweetners and sugar. Yeah, if you are talking about some little store in the middle of nowhere, then you are probably gonna have to look at a larger store like Walmart or Target. /sigh/ you can't avoid fructose without avoiding sugar altogether! See my previous post. The supposed effects of HFCS are not proven, but they have sold a lot of books. Do the math. I give up on trying to educate the ****ing morons here. These brainwashed idiots will believe whatever the media tell them without actually knowing the first damned thing about the validity of those claims. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rohdekill Posted February 2, 2012 Share Posted February 2, 2012 Sugar is already regulated. Farmer subsidies are reduced for sugar growers in the US and tariffs are already in place for imports. The only thing this resulted in is greater use of high-fructose corn syrup, which is manufactured and much worse on the human body. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DocM Posted February 2, 2012 Author Share Posted February 2, 2012 Fact: table sugar is 50/50 fructose and glucose. When digested they split and are absorbed. Fact: corn syrup contains no fructose, it's all glucose and fructose has to be added to make the syrup taste like table sugar. Because the resulting blend is higher in fructose than the base corn syrup (0%) it gets the "High Fructose" label. Fact: the level of fructose in HFCS is 42, 55 or 90 percent. 42% is actially 16% lower in fructose than table sugar. 55% has about the same amount of fructose as honey. The vast majority 90% is used to enrich 42% to 55% if needed. Fact: the AMA, FDA, and more research papers than I can count have found no causal link between HFCS and diabetes, metabolic disorder, obesity etc. etc. etc. beyond that of table sugar, raw sugar or honey. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hum Posted February 2, 2012 Share Posted February 2, 2012 Hell NO. Sugar is not a deadly poison. People need to use good sense about ordinary foods. Glassed Silver 1 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
remixedcat Posted February 2, 2012 Share Posted February 2, 2012 switch to stevia!!!! japan uses it. look how healthy they are! also HFCS is worse for you then sugar. HFCS is only processed using your liver and nothing else.... sugar gets processed by your entire body. so it's burned quicker. also with sugar your body can signal when you've had enough and makes you sick... your body does not get that with HFCS and does not give you the trigger and you keep going... thus consuming more. inb4 (sources) I have a nutritionist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJerman Posted February 2, 2012 Share Posted February 2, 2012 switch to stevia!!!! japan uses it. look how healthy they are! also HFCS is worse for you then sugar. HFCS is only processed using your liver and nothing else.... sugar gets processed by your entire body. so it's burned quicker. also with sugar your body can signal when you've had enough and makes you sick... your body does not get that with HFCS and does not give you the trigger and you keep going... thus consuming more. inb4 (sources) I have a nutritionist. DocM, I can see your frustration now. People don't listen and then just spout without knowing what they are talking about. HFCS is NOT only processed using your liver. Fructose is only processed using your liver. Sugar (sucrose) is 50/50 fructose and glucose. HFCS is 55/45 typically, and 42/58 sometimes. If your nutritionist told you HFCS is only processed by your liver, I suggest you find a new nutritionist. Everything you said applies to 100% fructose only, not HFCS which is almost the same fructose/glucose ratio as sugar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
etempest Posted February 2, 2012 Share Posted February 2, 2012 High Fructose Corn Syrup is what is causing obesity.I use raw sugar everyday ,and I'm surely not over wieght. Agree, I would love to see High Fructose Corn Syrup regulated. One of the issues is the sugar industries in the US is one of the last protected industries, and there limits / tarffis on importing sugar making it $$$. Corn Syrup is much cheaper. NOTE - Industry got approval with the gov to use the name "Corn Sugar" instead of the "High Fructose Corn Syrup". Read labels carefully. Initial tests on mice with the exact same amount of "calories" with sugar / hfcs, the mice with hfcs were more obese, diabatic, etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJerman Posted February 2, 2012 Share Posted February 2, 2012 Agree, I would love to see High Fructose Corn Syrup regulated. One of the issues is the sugar industries in the US is one of the last protected industries, and there limits / tarffis on importing sugar making it $$$. Corn Syrup is much cheaper. NOTE - Industry got approval with the gov to use the name "Corn Sugar" instead of the "High Fructose Corn Syrup". Read labels carefully. Initial tests on mice with the exact same amount of "calories" with sugar / hfcs, the mice with hfcs were more obese, diabatic, etc. Probably to avoid misleading names like High Fructose t hat makes people think it's worse than it is. It's called high fructose because otherwise it'd be no fructose, not because it has huge amount. Corn sugar is a far more accurate name if you ask me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ILikeTobacco Posted February 2, 2012 Share Posted February 2, 2012 Splenda etc actually cause my glucose levels to spike, so that was out. Stevia does not. Not even a blip. Interesting. Splenda is my sweetener of choice. Has zero effect on my levels. Walmart even carries a Splenda Diet Coke now. The regular diet coke messed with my stomach. May have to try Stevia though for other things. Never heard of it. On topic, the amount of misinformation on this thread is the reason why bad regulations exist. Eating HFCS is no different than the "natural" kind. It has the same effect on your body. People will use anything as an excuse for why they are fat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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