morganpugh84 Posted October 5, 2003 Share Posted October 5, 2003 Personally I believe it. The man is clever at manipulating people. He could easily have placed something in the blokes head subconsciously in the time they were all in training. Why else would he choose the weakest person? so he can control them easier! he could have made it so that the bloke does something, such as scratch his head if it is in chamber 1, etc. I have seen him do similar things to people in the street in just a couple of seconds so over a few days or weeks it would be well easy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beastage Posted October 5, 2003 Share Posted October 5, 2003 Dude who believes that.... there are no papers that can protect if someone dies.... it would have been the end of Channel 4 Some people are so easy to fool , seriously use the brain a little more Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darran Posted October 5, 2003 Share Posted October 5, 2003 (edited) Any link to the show? :unsure: Try and see if you can get someone to take you back to 9PM BST to the UK in front of a TV, set onto channel 4. ;) On 5 October at 9pm, Derren Brown will attempt not to shoot himself in the head, live on Channel 4. Filmed in a secret location, one person selected from the thousands who applied will load a real handgun with one bullet and then hand it to Derren. Using a series of psychological tests, Derren will then determine which chamber contains the bullet, put the gun to his head, and fire until he comes to the live chamber. "Most of the stuff I do I reckon has a 90 per cent success rate," says Derren. See if the odds are in his favour on 5 October, at 9pm on Channel 4. Edited October 5, 2003 by whistlerxp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
morganpugh84 Posted October 5, 2003 Share Posted October 5, 2003 Beast_4thHM: as long as they dont show it nothing would happen. Channel 4 would probably be the most popular channel for the next month while everyone talks about it. I remember seeing some bloke kill himself at a court hearing or something when I was about 10. Also it has nothing to do with Channel 4 really. It was his idea, etc. And any type of legal document can be drawn up. If they had done this in the UK It would have been a different story because Suicide and attempting Suicide (which he was doing technically) is illegal in the UK. That is why they state it is in a different country. What country I dont know. Just because you dont think it is real doesnt mean it isnt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mm3h Posted October 5, 2003 Share Posted October 5, 2003 Is really attempting Suicide illegal in the UK? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Axel Posted October 5, 2003 Share Posted October 5, 2003 Is really attempting Suicide illegal in the UK? I dont think so... but he's note UK he's broadcasting from somewhere in europe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
morganpugh84 Posted October 5, 2003 Share Posted October 5, 2003 Is really attempting Suicide illegal in the UK? apparently so. if you try and dont die you can go to prison for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Axel Posted October 5, 2003 Share Posted October 5, 2003 I don't think it would have been on TV if there was a chance he could die. although, it IS after 9pm... Also there was a 5 min delay...so if it did go wrong then they'd cut it off Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Watermoss Posted October 5, 2003 Share Posted October 5, 2003 I have watched the other Derren Brown programmes and he is very good at reading people ? those little subconscious signals we all give off! I am intrigued at how he does it - and would love to learn:shifty:y: I believe the 'stunt' was real hence all the media fuss over it - people have been condemning the stunt in light of gun related incidents in the UK recently and fear of copycat attempts where people attempt to try the stunt at home!:o:o Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
morganpugh84 Posted October 5, 2003 Share Posted October 5, 2003 Ok i just did a little search and apparently attempting to commit suicide in the uk is NOT illegal however helping someone in ANY way IS illegal so the bloke loading the gun would make it illegal. If you attempt suicide in the UK and fail then the police/health care services have the right to commit you to a mental institute which you could be in for the rest of your life. Sorry for any confusion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Axel Posted October 5, 2003 Share Posted October 5, 2003 If u wanna kill yourself that's your business, unless u are ACTUALLY mentally unstable...anyway OFFTOPIC SORRY! :blush: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
morganpugh84 Posted October 5, 2003 Share Posted October 5, 2003 If u wanna kill yourself that's your business, unless u are ACTUALLY mentally unstable...anyway OFFTOPIC SORRY! :blush: yeah but as soon as you say "hey i am gonna kill myself" you can be sectioned under the mental health act because it isnt "normal" to say that. also it isnt off topic really. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
me101 Veteran Posted October 5, 2003 Veteran Share Posted October 5, 2003 my cousin in norn ireland just im'd me to say that he survived... he's a magician or whatever you call them.. you think he's not going to pull the trigger on a loaded gun without not having some way of knowing whether the gun has a bullet to be fired next... he had to find out somehow which chamber had the bullet and then he just becomes an actor playing a part! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quboid Posted October 5, 2003 Share Posted October 5, 2003 I watched it knowing it was a fake (but not being ultimately 100% sure, no inside info) but I was on the edge of my seat. Darren Brown isn't an illusionist, he's a physiologist. I saw his series where he travelled around the UK and performed mind tricks on people. It was impressive stuff, assuming it wasn't all rigged. Of course, in those, there was no danger. I missed the first 15 mins of the show so I don't know how he got down to 100 people from 12000 applicants. From then, it was all about choosing predicable people. Then the guy he choose was pretty weak (as I would be, to be fair) and when he read out the numbers 1 to 6, I guessed number 1 too going by the stress. Still, I wouldn't have been sure enough to stick the gun to my head. He looked convincing, he's either a nut or an excellent actor. Woah, another trick with him just came on. He made someone on the tube forget his stop as that stop came up :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JK1150 Posted October 5, 2003 Share Posted October 5, 2003 Is really attempting Suicide illegal in the UK? what are the gonna do? arrest you dead? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solarix Posted October 5, 2003 Share Posted October 5, 2003 wtf is going on? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Axel Posted October 5, 2003 Share Posted October 5, 2003 what are the gonna do? arrest you dead? a successful suicide wudnt be illegal...that wud just be stupid! but an "attempted" one would be Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shibby Posted October 6, 2003 Share Posted October 6, 2003 i do not think it was fake. he knew who he was going to select but he needed to do tests to the people first to see how they do what he says. and he knew what chamber the live round was in because he knows how to listen to people and quickly anylise how they are saying stuff, that why he asked the person to say the numbers. if u listend he got 1 out quicker then the rest and then darren could compare that to the rest to find it. bits of it was fake but he was confidence that he could tell what chamber the round was in by listening to the person saying the numbers. this is what he does i think he is pretty good. if u watched where he had the person hide the thing under the cups, ur be amazed but it's true. how do u think he could know what people was thinking of by looking at them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.KICK Posted October 6, 2003 Share Posted October 6, 2003 havent seen any of them yet :/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomwarren Veteran Posted October 6, 2003 Veteran Share Posted October 6, 2003 Damn missed it :/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john smith 1924 Veteran Posted October 6, 2003 Veteran Share Posted October 6, 2003 yeah - me too. Ps- suicide and attempted suicide are not illegal. That law is back in the victorian ages! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Dick Montage Subscriber² Posted October 6, 2003 Subscriber² Share Posted October 6, 2003 I have met Derren, he was at our company party this year. Nice guy, really interesting. He is a little bit fraudulent in his stage stunts, things being prepared and all, but he uses hypnosis and proper confidence tricks well. I have studied hypnosis and states, read and practised many aspects of it. He had me go under without even using anything other than tone of voice. Oh, and suicide IS still illegal!!! Belive me, I know! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamnotwhoisayiam Posted October 6, 2003 Share Posted October 6, 2003 Best bit of telly i've ever seen :) It was all real. The man is just really amazing at reading people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hobsgrg Posted October 6, 2003 Share Posted October 6, 2003 The worst part was when he fired the 3rd bullet at the sand bag and it was empty and he was just sitting there for what felt like an eternity, although it was probably all for show, u suddenly felt like he could get it wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Borbus Posted October 6, 2003 Share Posted October 6, 2003 Yea i saw it. It was pretty weird when he paused after the second shot. he thought the second one had the bullet in it. And i think mr magoo is correct. In victorian ages it wa illegal to ATTEMPT suicide but not commit it( i know its weird) Now i think its been abolished Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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